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After watching three years of sub-par (39-73-14 in first three years) hockey, I'm starting to think enough is enough. As an alumni I'm starting to get sick and tired of hearing everyone calling for Coach Orr's job, while we sit and watch our hockey team struggle year after year. At least Orr can win a championship (2009). The only success Bergeron has had was the 2011-2012 run to Joe Lewis Arena, but even that team finished dead last in the CCHA and was led solely by Andrew Hammond.

This last weekend was a prime example, we earned three points, but Tommy Burke had to stand on his head to get us a W. Friday night he made 39 of 41 saves and the following night he made 43 saves. Good gracious, the team has to help the boy out! The overall team defense and will to win falls on the coach and BGSU hockey has not shown that over the past three years.

Year after year I hear fans talk about how this season is going to be ours, and we are constantly let down. When is enough, enough? What are we the Browns? As a dedicated hockey fan it is getting old watching BGSU hockey struggle season after season. Until some changes are made I'm going to start spending my hard earned money in Toledo watching the Walleye! ](*,) ](*,) :drinkers: :drinkers:
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You've been a BGSU Hockey fan for THREE years, and your calling for a coaching change? Am I reading this correctly?
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I think he was referencing the three years that coach has completed at the helm of the program.
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The team is at .500 for the first time this late in a season in a long, long time -- and also in the league -- and someone is calling for the coach's head?

What am I missing here?

If I'm not mistaken, it takes a few years to turn around a hockey program that was basically left to rot on the vine, like this one was. I mean it was basically given no support whatsoever for God knows how long -- and whatever foundation of success that had carried it for decades was long gone before the current coach ever set foot on campus.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong (I don't live close to BG), but it seems to me that things are just now starting to move in the right direction. Disrupting the continuity of what has been gained to this point seems like a really stupid thing to do. So far as I know, recruiting has been decent and there is talent in the pipeline.

Again, if I'm wrong, someone feel free to tell me so.
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BGSUFanatic7 wrote:I think he was referencing the three years that coach has completed at the helm of the program.
Which is why I'm asking for clarification before I fully respond.
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This staff is among the best and hardest working in college hockey. My opinion but I have some personal basis in saying it. We are just now at a point in rebuilding from square one where results can be expected. We are vastly vastly improved from three years ago. Three recruiting classes are really their responsibility. Our best player- by far our best player- has not played a minute yet we have had some excellent moments and are at .500. Coach was able to ride a big horse in goal for the last few years. Now we are working w very able but very young goaltenders.

All you need to do to win a national title in this sport is win your league and/or league tourney. That's it. We can literally win the league tourney this year. Don't have any idea if we will, but we can. Absolutely can.

Bowling Green hockey is in great hands and moving up.

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You're right lets put all our eggs in one basket and hope for the best in the tourney. I'll be your shoulder to cry on when that plan doesn't work out.
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IBleedOrangeAndBrown wrote:You're right lets put all our eggs in one basket and hope for the best in the tourney. I'll be your shoulder to cry on when that plan doesn't work out.
You didn't answer my question.
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pdt1081, IBleed doesn't need to answer any questions. Because the concept of changing coaches in hockey at BG to achieve better results next season or the season after is ridiculous. I don't need shoulders to cry on- just support the team and program. Type whatever you feel like typing. Even when the facts and progress in the last three years fly completely in the face of any thought of "we need new coaches". And BGWriter don't try to confuse the issue w logical posts or statements. If we don't win 25 games and are not ranked in the top 5 nationally it may not be enough apparently. Unreal.

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Don't get ahead of yourself falconfan1. I don't want 25 wins and a top 5 ranking, I just want a winning season. This is the fourth year under Bergeron and everyone is talking about how happy they are that the team is .500. Maybe the team will go on and have a good second half of the season. However, it is a real possibility that four years could go by without a winning record to show for it. Those results aren't acceptable at any institution. Don't be ignorant, this team hasn't been relevant in decades, pardon me for not being content with mediocrity.
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Wow somebody wants to oust coaches already...........been around when they only won 8 games all season looked on

as others wanted to drop program altogether

still support from afar because a player told me they didn't need me to cheer them on or support them

listening and watching since 1973 tells me that BG Hockey is on the way back

if you want instant try freeze dry coffee, Ramen noodles, tea bags etc.

walk run sprint marathon

where was your resume in the mix?
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Sue - it hurts me to hear that a player said that to you.

Following a team is a personal decision, but if it's that important that a team wins more than it loses, you might want to check where the Walleye are in the standings.
All is for the best in this best of all possible worlds.
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Bill I'm not following the Walleye
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Already? Its been three and a half years. I'm not talking about throwing the program out all together, but how many more losing seasons can we have under this man? Five? Six?...Seven?..........Eight? Should I go on? How many two goal leads have we blown this season? It's been at least three or four. At what point does that fall on the coaching staff? Coach Bergeron has definitely done some great things for this program, but we are running on close to four years of losing hockey.
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IBleedOrangeAndBrown wrote:Don't get ahead of yourself falconfan1. I don't want 25 wins and a top 5 ranking, I just want a winning season. This is the fourth year under Bergeron and everyone is talking about how happy they are that the team is .500. Maybe the team will go on and have a good second half of the season. However, it is a real possibility that four years could go by without a winning record to show for it. Those results aren't acceptable at any institution. Don't be ignorant, this team hasn't been relevant in decades, pardon me for not being content with mediocrity.
Forgive me, but I'm about to blast your sorry ass with some logic and reason.

How the hell do you know this team won't have a winning season this year? You are assuming that based on what? A .500 record the first half of the year -- a first half in which the team has played more league games on the road than at home and, as noted, without its top player, by the way?

So, if this team goes on to post a winning record for the season, will you come back here and admit that you jumped the gun and made yourself look like a fool?
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