Enough is Enough

[pdt1081]

Don't get ahead of yourself falconfan1. I don't want 25 wins and a top 5 ranking, I just want a winning season. This is the fourth year under Bergeron and everyone is talking about how happy they are that the team is .500. Maybe the team will go on and have a good second half of the season. However, it is a real possibility that four years could go by without a winning record to show for it. Those results aren't acceptable at any institution. Don't be ignorant, this team hasn't been relevant in decades, pardon me for not being content with mediocrity.

Perhaps you should pay attention to what the current coach inherited. You need to start SIXTEEN AND A HALF years ago. That is when the bottom started to drop out of this program. There was ONE slightly successful season in that run. And even I will admit that Jordan Sigalet is somewhere above superhuman. But I guess that doesn't count in your mind because we were riding the hot goaltender.

The last four seasons the team has shown improvement from the first game to the last (yes, I'm including the season Dennis Williams was behind the bench). That was something that had been lacking the previous 12 seasons. The team is growing. Each recruiting class that comes in is better than the previous. There's a lot that has changed. It takes time to show recruits what can happen here. What they can accomplish here.

[pdt1081]

This last weekend was a prime example, we earned three points, but Tommy Burke had to stand on his head to get us a W. Friday night he made 39 of 41 saves and the following night he made 43 saves. Good gracious, the team has to help the boy out! The overall team defense and will to win falls on the coach and BGSU hockey has not shown that over the past three years.

I don't know what you know about college hockey, but 3 points on the road is something that hasn't happened a lot this year for ANY team. And most every goalie has to stand on his head to give his team a chance to win.

These guys aren't used to playing with the lead. Look at the difference between the two nights. Friday, with the lead, they almost pissed it away with penalties. Saturday, they were down two goals with less than 3 minutes remaining and tied it up. That's all between the ears of the players. There's only so much a coach can do. The rest he has to leave up to the players. Once they get their heads right, things are going to start happening for them.

[Falcon Fanatic]

Unbelievable. I don't even know where to begin... Had to walk way from this thread and calm down before posting....

Clearly you know nothing about the history of this program and how far down it had fallen. As it has been said, it takes awhile to build a program from nearly the ground up, which is what this coaching staff has basically had to do. And they are doing it the right way. They are bringing high quality recruits who are also good kids and really good students. With 3 excellent recruiting classes, we FINALLY have more depth than we've had in many, many years. Our 3rd line is every bit as capable as the 1st line in any given game. It takes any new coaching staff awhile to build a program and this staff is building it faster than most could given where we were.

Regarding the recent struggles, you have to take into account the injuries to key players if you're looking at the whole picture of this year. Carpenter (finger, then foot), Berkle (hip pointer), and having Mohler out this weekend with an illness, are 3 TOP players that heavily contribute to much of this team's chemistry. Bring those 3 back and a LOT changes in the next game. Trust me, no one is unhappier with the recent losses/ties that should have been wins, than THIS coaching staff. NO ONE. PERIOD.

Oh, and one more thing, we are currently TIED FOR 3RD in the league and only 4 points away from being tied for 2nd. We are finishing the 1st half at .500 AND we are sitting in the top four in the WCHA. Great place to start a second half run, if you ask me!

GO FALCON HOCKEY!!!

[OrangeAndBrownTown]

IBleedOrangeAndBrown might be the biggest idiot on this site, and that is saying a lot. Were you paying attention the last 10 years? Do you know how bad the team was when coach Bergeron took the job? Are you blind? Do you have eyeballs? If you can't see improvement over Bergeron's tenure, well then I just don't know what team you are watching. There is no chance BG goes 2-1-1 against Minnesota State and Mich. Tech on the road four years ago. They lost twice at MSU four years ago, actually.

http://bgsufalcons.com/schedule.aspx?sc ... th=mhockey

So unless IBleedOrangeAndBrown is trolling, I just don't know what else to say.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

Maybe BleedOrangeAndBrown is trying to use some of that reverse psychology that worked over in the football forum. People call for Clawson's head after Toledo loss, football team hasn't lost since.

If not then

[BGFan]

Pooch? Is that you?

[Freddie]

Pooch? Is that you?

[DetroitFalcon]

I think it is foolish to expect any kind of quick turnaround, regardless of the coach. Falcon hockey is on the rebound, but it has a long, long way to go to regain the glory of the 1980's, and that may not even be possible in the new conference alignment. You need to accept that we are in the WCHA with all D-2 schools and progress is getting to .500 at the break, despite losing to Alabama tech. There will be more realignment and maybe our "renaissance" will help us move up. Just watch the Pizza Bowl and be happy!

p.s. MSU is the school in the Rose Bowl. Minn. St. is something different!!

[poltergeist]

Year after year I hear fans talk about how this season is going to be ours, and we are constantly let down. When is enough, enough? What are we the Browns? As a dedicated hockey fan it is getting old watching BGSU hockey struggle season after season. Until some changes are made I'm going to start spending my hard earned money in Toledo watching the Walleye!

whoa. I don't recall hearing anybody way that this season was "going to be ours", whatever that means. certainly never heard anybody say that the last three years in the CCHA were going to be ours. most of us knew that the program was coming out of a deep hole, and looked for the positive changes that didn't show up in the win/loss column.

actually, what I heard pretty much from everybody was that this season was going to be mankato's, in a cake walk. but even mankato is finding out that things don't always play out to expectations, lol.
So where do you get this "constantly let down" stuff? did you expect that quality teams like union, mankato, ferris, and LSSU were going to roll over for us? this year a bunch of people expected us to contend in an underrated conference that has a lot of talent and parity, and that's exactly what we are doing.

my own expectations are that this year we are a top-3 team in the conference, and that's absolutely within reach. but regardless of where we end up, I firmly believe in what the coaching staff are doing. no doubt in my mind that they are bringing in quality recruits and focusing on the things that matter: process, playing with purpose, internal competition, and working to fulfill potential (on-ice and off).
I mostly love the way these guys are playing hockey, and with a few exceptions they have not let me down. (ok, the huntsville letdown wasn't good.)

Beat BC in Pittsburgh!

[pdt1081]

Pooch? Is that you?

I remember when I got accused of being Paluch....

[Siborg]

This reminds me of the "Birdman" invasion on the Football BB during the 2-10 season.

[apollo]

The coaches are doing fine.....although it is worth mentioning that our conference isn't as strong. There are some good teams, but the WCHA lacks top end individual talent. If we were playing teams with more offensive skill, our defense and goaltending would really be exposed. Luckily we are playing BC the first game after break....they may be a little rusty.

The bigger problem long term is the WCHA itself. I don't think this conference will be able to stay like it is for more than a couple years. Too much travel and not enough support from fans. The final five in Grand Rapids will be lucky to draw 500 fans a game in any game that doesnt involve Ferris.

[BGDrew]

I'm kind of a weird voice in this because I see more of the behind the scenes stuff but if you truly think it's time to start over you're insane.

Hockey is a completely different animal in college. This isn't football or basketball where the NCAA is the prime "feeder league" for professional sports. It's true that you're going to get some guys who will go on to some great careers in the NHL but most of the talent is found up in Canadian Major Junior teams. If you want long term success in college you have to build a program, not teams.

Our record has improved every year under Coach Bergeron. We're pulling in better recruits, attendance is up (in a terrible conference for attendance), and we've got a great team GPA. What exactly are you looking for?

[IBleedOrangeAndBrown]

Although I never considered the option of ending the hockey program, many of you brought it up in this thread. After today's events I think it's time to shut it down.

Let's tear down the Ice Rink and make it into a bigger parking lot for the football program, or better yet --make into a larger indoor practice facility. Dino Babers is going to lead this team to the promise lands! After a conference championship now is the time to invest all of our resources into a potentially national ranked power.

With all of the talent that is returning on the football field this is a prime opportunity to put ourselves in the national spotlight. Lets be real, our hockey program -- as many of you have mentioned in your comments -- hasn't been relevant since the mid 80's. Our attendance at games is decent at best. The only thing that gets our fan base excited about the hockey program these days is dollar hot dog night.

As BGSU fans, lets stop doing what we want to do and start doing what we need to do! BGSU football is going to increase enrollment and be a competitive force for years to come!

[transfer2BGSU]

Although I never considered the option of ending the hockey program, many of you brought it up in this thread. After today's events I think it's time to shut it down...... Let's tear down the Ice Rink and make it into a bigger parking lot for the football program, or better yet --make into a larger indoor practice facility....As BGSU fans, lets stop doing what we want to do and start doing what we need to do! BGSU football is going to increase enrollment and be a competitive force for years to come!

You're crazy!

If anything, we're pulling out the ice and gonna' move the gymnastics equipment over there. Pull down the boards, remove the ice and you have enough room for a decent competition area - vault, uneven bars, balance beam, and floor exercise. Enough locker rooms for the MAC Championships and think how the girls will just love having that big open room for studying and watch film of their routines. Keep the fog horn and the flashing lights so that when we score a 9.8 or higher, we can light up the joint!