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IBleedOrangeAndBrown wrote:Jerseys were sick! I've said it once and I'll say it again alumni need to get with the times, the world isn't coming to an end because the teams in gray. Also Adidas doesn't make brown jerseys so you won't see that in BG.

LOL at "getting with the times."

Those things looked hideous. It has nothing to do with being "with the times" and everything to do with good taste. Certain colors just don't look good together, and those did not. I liked the orange wings on the shoulders, but not on that awful gray jersey. Put them on brown or white and I'm fine with it. Hell, put them in dark brown on an orange jersey and I'm fine.

And there's no reason Adidas couldn't make a brown jersey. It's not like BG is the only school that has it in its color scheme.
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Adidas may not make brown, but the contract is "up" this year, so we can find someone that does.
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As I said before, in the form that we've worn brown in years past I hate them. Orange needs to be a part of it.

For me, personally, I prefer making orange the primary color all around and just using brown to accent it.

I wouldn't be opposed to some Oregon esque neon orange jerseys once in awhile either. Anything that draws attention to the football program is ok with me.
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BGSU33 wrote:Two of our previous coaches have come right out and said sometimes we have actually lost guys who it came down to the wire with because our our colors (Meyer and Brandon). I bet Clawson would even admit the same now if asked. As silly as that may seem to you or me, it happens sometimes - we're dealing with kids.
We lost Clawson because of a color...green. :-)

Recruiting should always be taken into consideration and it's true that fashion plays a role. Many Ohio State fans were grumbling about night games replacing afternoon games and their own uniform tweaks and Meyer had to tell them it was all about recruiting. However, if it overrides the other factors you noted and becomes the determining factor in someone's choice then I would question their value system, priorities and readiness for the demands of college. Would they be the type of person to attend class, be on time, sacrifice in the weight room and commit to the infinite number of non-glamorous responsibilities of a Division I athlete? We're a university with a proud history and shouldn't let the tail wag the dog.

That's not to say we need to go out of out way to make the uniforms ugly. They looked great to me and were extremely similar to ones Tennessee (another Adidas client) wore earlier this year. This might have been mentioned before, but the orange letters on the bowl jerseys also had brown borders, perhaps a nod to the traditionalists or cover against the wailing about blasphemy we have seen.
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Just watched part of the bowl game on DVR and thought the jerseys looked better on TV, though I don't think I totally hated them live. The orange & brown in the numbers looked much better on TV than from Row 35.
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I happened to be having a meal in a sports themed restaurant on the day that Tennessee wore their orange and gray uniforms. They were showing that game on several of the tv's and I overheard a number of people around me commenting on how they loved that color combo, as it's one you just don't often see. I didn't hear anyone say anything negative about them.

I know a lot of folks on this discussion board didn't like ours because they thought the colors simply didn't go well together or the numbers were too hard to read and others objected to them based on gray not being one of "our colors" and it violated some sort of traditional standard, which I can understand, to an extent.

Being that I don't live in close proximity to BG, there aren't many of my local friends who went to school there and as such, they don't have a deep seeded desire to only see us in our official colors. All of my friends and family know I'm a Falcon fan to the core so all of them that I've happend to speak to since last Thursday have brought up the subject of the game. They all made mention of the uniforms. Every comment I've personally heard about the uniforms from any of them were overwhelmingly positive. I actually had one guy who's a college football fan, but doesn't even follow BG, ask me if I knew it it were possible to buy one because he thought they were so sharp he would like to get one.

I know those grays were blasphemous to some here and they were perceived as butt ugly, but most casual fans who aren't hardcore BG'ers seemed to love them and looking good can impact their image of us. To me, playing well and winning games is a heck of a lot more important than how our uniforms look, but if throwing in a wrinkle on the fashion side gives a casual fan or a young kid a reason to have a more positive view of us, then I don't see that as a bad thing. The more attention and discussion we generate, the better it is for our program and I do believe that does play at least a small role in recruiting, for some players. If a kid is completely on the fence about 2 teams, he is probably going factor the uniforms into consideration when it comes decision time. Right or wrong, that's just the way it is. Kids want to look good, or at least want to think they look good. If a recruit we want is on the fence between us and Turdledo and that kid ultimately decides to head our way because he believes he will look good in his uniform vs playing with a dildo on his helmet, then an alternate uniform from time to time is fine with me.
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these texas tech jerseys are sick
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Y'all all need to get it through your heads that you get no say it what we wear on the field.

Oregon has made jerseys/helmets/gloves/pants/cleats one of the biggest marketing tools for recruiting in the nation. I'm going to say this right now because it is a major emphasis of talk amongst alot of sports and people my age bracket of 16-25 and that is "look" matters. Players want to look good when they play too, its just part of the culture now, guys helmets and visors and having sweet gloves and cleats and an awesome look matter alot to players now. It also matters alot to the student body and fans of the younger demographic because all of these schools are doing it. You wanna fork over a ton of money and say we wear nothing but Orange and Brown approved by these alumni. Go ahead.

But I'd rather have better players decide they want to come here and play and build a better program because we offer them something cool and unique in our color combos and jerseys that they can't get somewhere else than lose those players. I'll take 10 wins a year in BLACK jerseys over 2 wins a year in Orange or Brown anyday......

Winning matters and jerseys are part of the recruiting the players that win. It's a fact.
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I'm just curious. Does anyone know how much a new set of jerseys costs for an entire team?
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Watched the game at a bar in Florida. Everyone commented how much they liked the, orange, grey, orange look. The brown outline on the numbers was bad. Would have been much easier to read with orange numbers with a white outline.
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sum1udontknow wrote:Y'all all need to get it through your heads that you get no say it what we wear on the field.

Oregon has made jerseys/helmets/gloves/pants/cleats one of the biggest marketing tools for recruiting in the nation. I'm going to say this right now because it is a major emphasis of talk amongst alot of sports and people my age bracket of 16-25 and that is "look" matters. Players want to look good when they play too, its just part of the culture now, guys helmets and visors and having sweet gloves and cleats and an awesome look matter alot to players now. It also matters alot to the student body and fans of the younger demographic because all of these schools are doing it. You wanna fork over a ton of money and say we wear nothing but Orange and Brown approved by these alumni. Go ahead.

But I'd rather have better players decide they want to come here and play and build a better program because we offer them something cool and unique in our color combos and jerseys that they can't get somewhere else than lose those players. I'll take 10 wins a year in BLACK jerseys over 2 wins a year in Orange or Brown anyday......

Winning matters and jerseys are part of the recruiting the players that win. It's a fact.
Oregon's jersey's last night were sweet as well. Only thing I didn't like was having the name in the lighter grey that was hard to read. Otherwise they were sweet.

I enjoy watching Oregon. They have badass jerseys and play the game the way I like to watch it played...at high speed with the best athletes in the country. I wish they wouldn't have cheated; I would have been a bigger fan of them.
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Beaker wrote:I happened to be having a meal in a sports themed restaurant on the day that Tennessee wore their orange and gray uniforms. They were showing that game on several of the tv's and I overheard a number of people around me commenting on how they loved that color combo, as it's one you just don't often see. I didn't hear anyone say anything negative about them.
The Tennessee unis worked better because the orange is a far lighter orange by comparison and the numbers were outlined with white. Couple that with the white helmet and patterend gray field and they had a fairly slick look.
Orange and gray are a classic marketing combination today; HOWEVER, the shades must compliment and not compete. That's my beef (from a marketing eye).
If I was designing the bowl uni (using the same gray from our bowl uniform), I would have opted for the white helmets, white outlines to the numbers and white outlines and orange strips on the gray pants. The only brown would be small lettering spelling out "Blow me, BC$" to add texture to the jersey's gray field.

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I liked the grey jerseys. But I have real misgivings about us wearing them.

I like the fact that we dared to be different. It worked. It was a good look. We looked like no other team in the country -- except, perhaps, an alternative universe version of the Ohio State Buckeyes (a bold version of their grey, with their scarlet tweaked into our orange). Lots of football fans in our state love the color grey. Those jerseys reached out to them. It worked. And, thank goodness, it was not the stupid black jersey cliché. It really was different.

All that is good.

What concerns me is the fact that brown does not at all look good with grey. It's the same problem we face when our teams have experimented with black. Brown is the one color that does not look good with black -- and grey is a light shade of black, so it is more or less the same problem.

I take other people's word for the fact that we outlined the numbers in brown. I couldn't tell, because, a small amount of brown, against that background, looks black. And maybe that was the point -- a fig leaf for the football team so they can claim they aren't running away from brown, even though the brown isn't discernible.

Put simply: To the extent we embrace grey, we exclude brown. That's the reality if we go down this road, and it troubles me, as much as I liked the look.

We are one of the only football programs in the country that has brown in our scheme. It makes us different. It was the primary color in the days of Doyt Perry and Don Nehlen and Brian McClure. We should honor that, and find ways to embrace that, and not run away from it. Hockey gets our colors right. I'm not sure any other team does.

Again: I'm not opposed to innovation. I'm not even opposed to working in another color. But it ought to be a *complementary* color.

If some smart guy in the Sebo Center wants to work in gold or yellow, I would actually be much more comfortable with that. Yellow or gold would complement our colors. Send our football team out there looking the mid-70s San Diego Padres, and I think that would be a hoot.

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But grey and black are at odds with our colors.

I did like the look. I did. But it would have made a more sense at Syracuse or Clemson, where it doesn't clash with their colors the way it clashes with ours.
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If shiny copper helmets get us top recruits who graduate with high GPA's and a string of MAC championships I will grow to love the new headgear. I think too much is made of uniforms and tradition based on gray uniforms. The baseball team has been sporting gray uniforms for years, even a gray hat at one point. Logos, uniforms, mascot(s) and colors have been determined by student input since 1910 and always will be. Black, gray and white with the potential of other complementary colors will find their way in and out of uniforms.

It's simply marketing and marketing is mainly aimed at the young because they are the consumers. The alums my age and older can buy old logo stocking hats at the Anderson's and wait for retro uniform night and complain the basketball shorts are too baggy for that style uniform.
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Shiny copper helmets would probably go better with brown than grey does.

Also, I'm not a big baseball fan, but I'm not turning up photos of grey Falcon uniforms on the google machine. I see them wearing a lot of brown. That doesn't seem to have hurt recruiting; they won the MAC tournament last season.

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