BG coaches no longer welcome at Erie prep

[transfer2BGSU]

That weak offer was on the internet for six months. Someone at bg should have cleared it up if that was the case.

Was it on bgsufalcons.com for six months?

If you were one of the people that was saying he was offered and a commit, well.....

We don't see it as often at BG, but it's not uncommon at all for kids to "Verbal" to schools that haven't even actually offered them a scholarship. I know OSU and the other big schools have it all the time. The kids get some recruiting material and think that's the same as getting an offer. And the websites that report "offers" are no more legit. The schools/coaches themselves aren't allowed to mention anything about anybody, so anytime somebody is listed as having an "offer" it's done because the kid says he had one.

Remember the kid a couple of years back that had his signing day and indicated he was going to Cal instead of Oregon. The Oregon coach was upset that none of his staff knew about the kid in their own back yard, and then it came to light that he made up the whole Cal offer.

[factman]

Great point, transfer! The info on the "recruiting" sites does not come from the colleges, but from the SAME sources that are doing the complaining. Rivals, 24/7, ESPN, Scout etc are no more than info they have gathered from the players, HS coaches and newspapers. Often, schools jump in to recruit a kid, because another college (s) are recruiting them, so if the HS coach or player can create an artificial demand (offers), he may create more offers.
We all know parents, coaches and players that say they are being RECRUITED by XYZ school, when in reality, all they have received is a questionaire, or something similar.
The moral of the story is, wait til 2/5, and see who signs on the line, then wait to see if they are qualified, and are red or grey shirted, then keep your fingers crossed they don't flunk out or end up in jail, and hopefully a few years down the road they will be all conference!

[Globetrotter]

We know that one of our coaches recruited him. And we know that all the way back in July it was posted to one of the 4 websites that reports these things that he had verbally committed to us. If it was all a misunderstanding I think it's the team's responsibility to at least pick up the phone and say...wait a second, that was not a firm offer. There is 0 chance that the coaches don't at least have some awareness of the info on those sites.

And transfer, well....what?.....all I ever did was compile info from those sites. I have no idea what the background to the story is. If I can do that in 5 minutes the team can do that as well. Teams use those sites (certainly not exclusively or primarily for recruiting) but they do use the sites.

These coaches are fluent in the internet. They can't feign ignorance later.

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[transfer2BGSU]

We all know parents, coaches and players that say they are being RECRUITED by XYZ school, when in reality, all they have received is a questionaire, or something similar.

Reminds me of the kid that Akron offered a scholarship to because Daddy pulled in a favor. Daddy (his high school coach) had Akron offer a scholarship so he could create some buzz on his kid and generate some offers from other schools. Wasn't supposed to actually use the scholarship. Many Akron fans upset and many fans of his high school team don't understand why he was offered and a couple of better plays on the team were not.

[Flipper]

Letters go out containing formal offers sometime in the late summer or fall...if you don't have a letter in September when you "verballed" in July..you don't have an offer. Coach "zigs and zags of recruiting" over in Erie should know that. If a coach is telling you if room opens up, we'll sign you...you don't have an offer. Again..coach zigs and zags should know this. If you do not have an offer, you should not end your recruiting process and deprive yourself of any possible options. Coach zigs and zags should know this

I really do not understand the fixation on finding some way to blame the current staff for an issue..if you can even call it an issue..they did zip, zero, nada to create.

[Globetrotter]

The previous staff very well might be the ones to blame for not clearing this up.

[guest44]

I wonder if the Blade will print box scores for Coach Zigzags team next season.

[transfer2BGSU]

Was this really a John Wagner story or one that was written by another Block Communications paper and reprinted in the Blade?

[Flipper]

It carried Wagner's byline and he promoted it on twitter. I thought Wagner had higher standards than that.

[mscarn]

It was originally printed in an Erie paper. Based on their archives they cover that high school like a Division I college program. Wagner had an original story with original quotes from Coach Zigzag. The only thing that could possibly validate his account is a written scholarship offer letter on BGSU letterhead (which usually contain their own stipulations about it being contigent on certain conditions), something I'm guessing they never got.

[guest44]

Wagner had the story thrown in his lap, and he ran with it because it was easy. However, Coach Zigzag and his program are irrelevant to NW Ohio. Anyone with a brain can read his other article that day showing nearly a full turnover in staff, and put the pieces together as to what might have happened. Therefore, the risk of burning bridges for access probably isn't really worth it . Maybe Wagner is going to continue this trend, and finally ask Louie about the scholarship situation. Or why did Lou's team not match its' opponents energy 1 game after the "it's in your gut" mumble? If anything Kingston's tweet said the most. I'm guessing he isn't real happy.

[zete]

Wagner? This is a symptom of a coaching staff leaving BG in their rear view mirror.

[Schadenfreude]

If there was any doubt that this is agenda-based, biased journalism ('Is there another kind?'

In my experience, most journalists try hard to get things right and try to check their personal opinions at the door, Wagner included.

[Flipper]

IN this case...there were a number of basic questions (did Tyree ever get an offer letter, what exactly was he told by coach Carney, when exactly was he informed that he was not getting an offer) that Wagner could have asked and didn't. I don't see any compelling reason to run the story now when you know that half of the people involved can't comment for a week. Sure, taking the time to do a complete story would have involved a bit more work, but isn't getting the whole story worth it?

You have to conclude that he's either got an agenda or he's a bit lazy...take your pick.

[Globetrotter]

Wagner? This is a symptom of a coaching staff leaving BG in their rear view mirror.

This is timely. If the player just found it out then you report it then.