Eric McKnight 6'9 Forward- FGCU "Dunk City" Transfer

[Globetrotter]

I can't make it any simpler than this.... if you are judging a player that you've never seen play, you are talking out of your ass.

I can't make it any simpler than this......there is ample evidence without seeing a player to judge him. It may be an incomplete judgement but there are certainly indicators to success. I've never seen the tuba player for BG's band play basketball. I don't think he is very good at basketball.

I have seen hundreds of people have success in college playing basketball. There are plenty of indicators of future success at the college level. Size is just one of them. He could be great and I hope he is.

Oh for the love of God...does the Tuba payer have a D1 scholarship for basketball? Did he have multiple offers to play D1 basketball form peer Universities? Is it going to kill you to STFU, wait 5 five months and give the kid a chance before you tell him he sucks?

You could have let it go many posts ago.

[OptionQB]

I'm really not trying to be a smartass but what peer universities did Mayleben have offers from? I honestly don't know

[falconfan1]

Quit worrying about how good our guys are who you have not seen play. Or, really, those you have seen play at this point. Coach Jans knows what he is doing. It may take a bit. Coach has been exceptionally complimentary on our current players' attitudes and desire to win etc at this point. He means that. He also says we need talented players. Coach will sort it all out w staff and players. Don't blame current players for anything if they are giving their best effort and are good citizens. They didn't sign themselves; BG men's basketball signed them.

Going forward as of a few weeks ago, Coach Jans is responsible from A to Z for the program. It likely won't happen overnight. I am glad to hear that our current players want to win. We have a few current guys who can help that is for sure and now they will be coached by Coach Jans and staff. Coach is working literally around the clock. This guy gets it from that angle. Totally gets it.

Looking forward to it. Let's go.

Go Falcons!

[threestooges]

Don't blame current players for anything if they are giving their best effort and are good citizens. They didn't sign themselves; BG men's basketball signed them.

+1,000,000

[mscarn]

It likely won't happen overnight.

With the right tweaks, improvements and personnel additions I think it will happen quicker than people might think.

As people have pointed out, turnarounds can and do happen rapidly in college basketball. Heck, last year we beat the league champions on their home floor and only lost to Akron on a last second shot.

[shock]

While there are a few sleepers and surprises, I have found the following to be a fairly accurate checklist for a team coached by Gregg Marshall/ Chris Jans:
Are they athletic?
Do they play hard?
Are they tough?
Are they coachable?
HCCJ will pull a player if they don't hustle on every play. It is paramount in this system to give 100% percent, if not more, on every play. HCCJ does not care who you are, you you are related to, what your background is- when a player dons a BGSU uniform, they are expected to play like the other team stole their mothers purse or stole their lunch money.
I have seen players that play hard, they were tough as nails, they were superbly coachable, but they lacked athleticism, and they ended up transferring. That is Jake White in a nutshell. He was just a step too slow and transferred. Marshall's past at WSU is riddled with players that didn't want to put in the effort, they never saw the court, and then they left the program. Some don't even make it to the season before they leave.
But look at the results. Its hard to argue with success. When does the season start???

[Warthog]

I'm really not trying to be a smartass but what peer universities did Mayleben have offers from? I honestly don't know

According to Rivals, none wahtsoever.

http://sports.yahoo.com/basketballrecru ... .QZbzSO5B4" target="_blank

[Flipper]

Once again...the recruiting services don't know jack about most MAC players...hell, half the time they don't even list all of our signees.

http://www2.cincinnati.com/blogs/recrui ... day-night/" target="_blank

[BleedOrange]

Once again...the recruiting services don't know jack about most MAC players...hell, half the time they don't even list all of our signees.

http://www2.cincinnati.com/blogs/recrui ... day-night/" target="_blank

This is quite true. I stopped taking these sites seriously years ago. Rivals in particular. I trust D1 coaches far more than these partially invested scouts. It's the coaches that bear the responsibilities of their recruiting decisions.

[fredthefalcon]

Did your trust apply to Orr and his staff as well?

[BleedOrange]

Did your trust apply to Orr and his staff as well?

This issue with Orr was developing and motivating the players that he had.

That's a fair question, tho, and all coaches make mistakes. Clearly, Orr made mistakes on Kraus, Erger, and Dee Brown. However, he signed Parker, Holmes, Henderson, and Clarke. All four of those guys were lightly-recruited (afaik), and all four are very good athletes. Concerning Clarke and Henderson, under Jans or Dakich, they would have developed in to far better and mature players by this point in their careers.

[Flipper]

I've watched and (tried) to play basketball for 40 years....I would be foolish to consider myself smarter than Louis Orr re anything related to basketball.

[mscarn]

While there are a few sleepers and surprises, I have found the following to be a fairly accurate checklist for a team coached by Gregg Marshall/ Chris Jans:
Are they athletic?
Do they play hard?
Are they tough?
Are they coachable?
HCCJ will pull a player if they don't hustle on every play. It is paramount in this system to give 100% percent, if not more, on every play. HCCJ does not care who you are, you you are related to, what your background is- when a player dons a BGSU uniform, they are expected to play like the other team stole their mothers purse or stole their lunch money.
I have seen players that play hard, they were tough as nails, they were superbly coachable, but they lacked athleticism, and they ended up transferring. That is Jake White in a nutshell. He was just a step too slow and transferred. Marshall's past at WSU is riddled with players that didn't want to put in the effort, they never saw the court, and then they left the program. Some don't even make it to the season before they leave.
But look at the results. Its hard to argue with success. When does the season start???

Good stuff, but I couldn't help but notice that scoring/offense/shooting prowess isn't a component of that formula. I can speak for many when I say that BG fans are starving for not only wins, but teams that get up and down the floor, score and consistently make outside shots. We have had slow, deliberate, half-court, grind-it-out basketball since pretty much forever and that has played a role in the dwindling fan support.

I remember reading an article about TCU when Billy Tubbs was the coach. They were going into a new league and he was laughing that the top scoring team topped out at 75 points per game when they were regularly averaging over a hundred. Score 90-100 points a game at the Stroh consistently and they'll be scalping tickets outside the giant Falcon.

[fredthefalcon]

I've watched and (tried) to play basketball for 40 years....I would be foolish to consider myself smarter than Louis Orr re anything related to basketball.

I didn't say smarter. I said would you trust his decisions on players?

[Globetrotter]

Florida Gulf Coast transfer Eric McKnight, who will be able to play next year, told ESPN has heard from Tenn, Wich st, Memphis, BC, Rutgers.

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