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So if I gather all of this correctly, here is the total list of BGSU alums on or competing for NFL roster spots ....

Shaun Suisham - Steelers
Scott Mrzowski - Chargers
Kory L(not even going to bother trying to spell) - Redskins
Kamar Jorden - Vikings
Chris Jones - Patriots
Tyler Beck - Patriots
Alex Bayer - Rams
Jairus Campbell - Ravens
Ted Ouellet - Packers
Cam Truss - Steelers
Aaron Foster - Cowboys
BooBoo Gates - Titans

Wow. Has there ever been a single moment with that many BG guys in the NFL? Astonishing. It would be fun if some of the class of 2013 seniors make the roster of 53 somewhere.
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MarkL wrote:So if I gather all of this correctly, here is the total list of BGSU alums on or competing for NFL roster spots ....

Shaun Suisham - Steelers
Scott Mrzowski - Chargers
Kory L(not even going to bother trying to spell) - Redskins
Kamar Jorden - Vikings
Chris Jones - Patriots
Tyler Beck - Patriots
Alex Bayer - Rams
Jairus Campbell - Ravens
Ted Ouellet - Packers
Cam Truss - Steelers
Aaron Foster - Cowboys
BooBoo Gates - Titans

Wow. Has there ever been a single moment with that many BG guys in the NFL? Astonishing. It would be fun if some of the class of 2013 seniors make the roster of 53 somewhere.
Scott Mruczkowski hasn't played in the NFL since 2011 with the Chargers. He had a nice 7-year run there.
I don't believe Jordan was ever "active" with Minnesota and hasn't been in camp for a couple of years.
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Rollo83 wrote:
MarkL wrote:So if I gather all of this correctly, here is the total list of BGSU alums on or competing for NFL roster spots ....

Shaun Suisham - Steelers
Scott Mrzowski - Chargers
Kory L(not even going to bother trying to spell) - Redskins
Kamar Jorden - Vikings
Chris Jones - Patriots
Tyler Beck - Patriots
Alex Bayer - Rams
Jairus Campbell - Ravens
Ted Ouellet - Packers
Cam Truss - Steelers
Aaron Foster - Cowboys
BooBoo Gates - Titans

Wow. Has there ever been a single moment with that many BG guys in the NFL? Astonishing. It would be fun if some of the class of 2013 seniors make the roster of 53 somewhere.
Scott Mruczkowski hasn't played in the NFL since 2011 with the Chargers. He had a nice 7-year run there.
I don't believe Jordan was ever "active" with Minnesota and hasn't been in camp for a couple of years.
Kamar Jorden is on roster according to the Vikings' website. He was in the Vikings camp and doing great in 2012 until a sprained ankle, then spent a season tearing it up in AFL, and Minnesota re-signed him. I think he's got a chance ...
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Tyler Beck got released today...
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Given that most of these guys are just camp invites and total long shots to make actual NFL rosters, I've always been amazed at how FEW players we get to the next level. Even in the years of when we were really good we didn't have guys making rosters. Hell our 2 star QBs that got drafted didn't even make the rosters during their rookie years and that is almost unheard of.

Jones looks like he could be on the start of a very nice NFL career though. I'd love to see Bayer or BooBoo stick around as well. The rest of these guys are likely just camp fodder and will be gone by the first wave of cuts, sadly.

I know most people will say it doesn't matter, but I disagree. It's a MAJOR selling point to a program to be able to tell kids that they're putting talent into the NFL. Babers has a VERY good track record of creating NFL talent (hell his QB at EIU just got drafted higher than any of our guys). We need to recruit and develop talent for the next level. It's such a huge recruiting sell.

I've always been baffled how a program like KSU that has had far less MAC success than us seems to keep putting players in the NFL at a much higher rate than we have. Buffalo & CMU have had top 5 picks in recent years. And still the best we've had is hoping our guys that sign as UDFAs can stick on a roster. Strange...
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Totally agree
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Clawson basically proved that you win by building depth throughout the roster. A single superstar or two is not enough to beat a collection of marginal NFL-caliber players. Khalil Mack and Jimmie Ward were both 1st round picks and their teams were soundly defeated by BG.
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Never said that you couldn't win through depth, etc. However, I will point out that despite our MAC championship and overall decent record we never were ranked in the top 25 under Clawson, we never beat a BCS team under Clawson, and we didn't fare particularly well against UT under Clawson either, and we lost every bowl game he ever played in.

I have always said, and I continue to feel, that the MAC championship is a very small part of what I want from BG football. I care MUCH more about seeing the program in the limelight and getting BG's name out there than I do winning MAC titles. And in some order I feel that beating BCS programs, winning bowl games, and producing NFL talent are all more likely to put BG in the media than winning the MAC title is. Not saying I'd trade a MAC title for a single high draft pick, but I don't think the two goals are mutually exclusive either.

To me the best thing BG football can do for the university is get mentioned in the media. MAC titles are great, but that's not the only (nor the best) way to accomplish that. The way I see it the goals of our program should be:

Win Rivalry games
Win Bowl Games
Beat BCS teams
Produce NFL players
Play exciting football

If you accomplish all of those goals (and it should go without saying that do so within the framework of the NCAA rules) then the MAC titles will come. I think Babers is a guy who will build his program to do the above, and if he does the MAC titles will come with it. He's also going to do it in about the most exciting fashion imaginable.
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Yep the MAC championship was absolutely great but it has been way too long since we won a bowl game or beat a BCS or whatever they're called now opponent. My fondest BG memories were beating those Big 10 and Big 12 teams from 2001-2003. Living in SEC country beating Miss St would've been about as good as it gets for me.
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Winning a MAC title game is the ultimate now -- but I want to see BG combine that with a string of victories of its rival again. Too much losing to that team north of us. Waaaay too much of late.

I'll take a win over the Rockettes above just about anything except a MAC title game victory. Yes, even higher than a bowl game win. You have to win your rivalry game.

As for beating BCS teams...that's a nice feather in the cap if you can do it, but it ranks dead last on my list of goals which are: (1) Win the MAC title game (2) Beat UT (3) Win Bowl game. Anything positive beyond those is nice (like being ranked), but give me those three in a season, and I'm one VERY happy Falcon.
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BGWriter wrote:Winning a MAC title game is the ultimate now -- but I want to see BG combine that with a string of victories of its rival again. Too much losing to that team north of us. Waaaay too much of late.

I'll take a win over the Rockettes above just about anything except a MAC title game victory. Yes, even higher than a bowl game win. You have to win your rivalry game.

As for beating BCS teams...that's a nice feather in the cap if you can do it, but it ranks dead last on my list of goals which are: (1) Win the MAC title game (2) Beat UT (3) Win Bowl game. Anything positive beyond those is nice (like being ranked), but give me those three in a season, and I'm one VERY happy Falcon.
Totally agree. 4 losses in a row and we are 7and freakin 13 against them in the last 20...11-14 in the last 25. Time for the pendulum to swing the other way on this. Beating up on Miami has been fun but dammit, for me, ya GOTTA beat that team up north.
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I'd argue that making a bowl game is more significant than whether it's ultimately won or lost. You get the ESPN exposure, the 15 extra practices, the week of special events and the ability to say your program has made it to a bowl, a huge benchmark in college football. Of course winning is preferable to losing but unless it's a major BCS game or a major blowout people tend to forget.
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hammb wrote:I know most people will say it doesn't matter, but I disagree. It's a MAJOR selling point to a program to be able to tell kids that they're putting talent into the NFL. Babers has a VERY good track record of creating NFL talent (hell his QB at EIU just got drafted higher than any of our guys). We need to recruit and develop talent for the next level. It's such a huge recruiting sell.
I wonder how much Baber's QB from EIU getting drafted that high will help us from a recruiting standpoint throughout his time here
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BGFalconfromCincy wrote:
hammb wrote:I know most people will say it doesn't matter, but I disagree. It's a MAJOR selling point to a program to be able to tell kids that they're putting talent into the NFL. Babers has a VERY good track record of creating NFL talent (hell his QB at EIU just got drafted higher than any of our guys). We need to recruit and develop talent for the next level. It's such a huge recruiting sell.
I wonder how much Baber's QB from EIU getting drafted that high will help us from a recruiting standpoint throughout his time here
The dude was QB/WR coach that has put out RGIII & Jimmy G, as well as Kendall Wright, Terrance Williams, and Josh Gordon (played little before his drug issues started to rear their head).

I cannot imagine a QB or WR wanting to go anywhere else. This offense develops talent into upper tier NFL talent. Throw in the fact that he was the recruiting coordinator that brought in a lot of those guys to Baylor I think the future here is VERY bright. Especially for bringing in and developing QBs and WRs.
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Earlier this spring, some of the assistants tweeted pictures of the stat line commpiled by WR's and RB's running this offense at EIU.
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