THIS DEFENSE IS HORRIBLE!!!!

[ikenyon]

This should really worry people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k6Ckl5 ... e=youtu.be" target="_blank

Dino basically sees no problem with the defense, just injuries. But has no issues with the scheme. Thinks you can win a MAC title by giving up 40+ ppg and 600+ ypg as long as we score one more point than our opponent.

While true, yes, scoring one more point than your opponent gives you a win. I'm very cautious of any scheme that promotes your offense needing to score 45+ points. You don't want to win games by one point, you want to win them decidedly. The attitude in this interview scares me as a fan. It's basically, "trust me, forget about the defense, its just about scoring points. and we'll do that."

If you're the head coach of this team, talking to the press, even if you believe what he believes. How do you not at least tell media/fans, "yes, we realize defense is a problem, we're working on a solution, adjustments we have to make." The complete and total disregard to the importance of a sound defense is what drives me crazy here.

[MarkL]

I enjoyed his penalty box party comments. In the spirit of having a great hockey team in campus. It's not the kind of party you want to be invited to but if you're invited you must attend!

[ikenyon]

Total Defense/Scoring Defense:

2013: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
5 teams. NM State (2-10), Cal (1-11), Idaho (1-11), New Mexico (3-9), Eastern Mich (2-10)

2012: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 Teams, Baylor was close, but this is the season they went 8-5 (4-4 in conference)

2011: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
1 team, Kansas (2-10), Ball St. was close, went 7-6 (4-4 in conference)

2010: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams. East Carolina closest (6-7), New Mexico 2nd closest (1-11)

2009: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams. Washington State the closest (1-11)

2008: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
1 team, SMU (1-11)

2007: 500+ypg, 40+ ppg
1 team, Rice (3-9)

2006: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams, closest is Louisiana Tech (3-9)

2005: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams, New Mexico St. closest (0-12)

2004: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams, Western Mich closest (1-11)

These teams combined to go 42-153 (27.4%), won zero conference titles and went to one bowl game.

This filter is for 500 ypg, 40 ppg. Bowling Green is currently allowing 620 ypg and 43.6 ppg

There have been approximately 1,200 team seasons played (120 FBS *10 yrs) and 130 conference winners over the past decade. Is Babers really THAT arrogant? That his system and philosophy are going to be so revolutionary that he's going to become the only coach to win with a defense that allows that many yards and points?

As I've stated before, even Baylor needed to develop a defense to start winning. They have a top-10 scoring defense in the country right now.

That famed Eastern Illinois team last year? They gave up 22.7 ppg last year and lost every game that they allowed over 40 points. Eastern Illinois won only ONE shootout last year and it was a 40-37 double OT win at Southern Illinois, other than that, it was all blowout wins with solid defense. They gave up 370 ypg.

Babers' first year at Eastern Illinois, the defense gave up 435 ypg, 36 ppg but also went 7-5 and went 1-5 in games where they allowed over 40ppg.

Re-watch this video after reading all that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k6Ckl5 ... e=youtu.be" target="_blank

[thewebboy]

Total Defense/Scoring Defense:

2013: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
5 teams. NM State (2-10), Cal (1-11), Idaho (1-11), New Mexico (3-9), Eastern Mich (2-10)

2012: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 Teams, Baylor was close, but this is the season they went 8-5 (4-4 in conference)

2011: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
1 team, Kansas (2-10), Ball St. was close, went 7-6 (4-4 in conference)

2010: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams. East Carolina closest (6-7), New Mexico 2nd closest (1-11)

2009: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams. Washington State the closest (1-11)

2008: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
1 team, SMU (1-11)

2007: 500+ypg, 40+ ppg
1 team, Rice (3-9)

2006: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams, closest is Louisiana Tech (3-9)

2005: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams, New Mexico St. closest (0-12)

2004: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams, Western Mich closest (1-11)

These teams combined to go 42-153 (27.4%), won zero conference titles and went to one bowl game.

This filter is for 500 ypg, 40 ppg. Bowling Green is currently allowing 620 ypg and 43.6 ppg

There have been approximately 1,200 team seasons played (120 FBS *10 yrs) and 130 conference winners over the past decade. Is Babers really THAT arrogant? That his system and philosophy are going to be so revolutionary that he's going to become the only coach to win with a defense that allows that many yards and points?

As I've stated before, even Baylor needed to develop a defense to start winning. They have a top-10 scoring defense in the country right now.

That famed Eastern Illinois team last year? They gave up 22.7 ppg last year and lost every game that they allowed over 40 points.

We get it, the defense is bad right now.

However, the stats above are 12 game seasons. We are 5 games in. Can we save these 'historical' comparisons until we have a full season of stats to compare to?

[Statmanmatt]

Total Defense/Scoring Defense:

That famed Eastern Illinois team last year? They gave up 22.7 ppg last year and lost every game that they allowed over 40 points. Eastern Illinois won only ONE shootout last year and it was a 40-37 double OT win at Southern Illinois, other than that, it was all blowout wins with solid defense. They gave up 370 ypg.

Babers' first year at Eastern Illinois, the defense gave up 435 ypg, 36 ppg but also went 7-5 and went 1-5 in games where they allowed over 40ppg.

To give even further context, EIU gave up 31.4 PPG and 404.5 YPG (and only created 9 turnovers) in 2011.

This underscores something I've tried to say in my discussions with many about this team. When Dino Babers says that it takes a year to install his system, he does NOT just mean his offense. I am fully confident (and this info bears it out) that he includes defense in this, too.

Even without the big losses that we had to graduation last year in addition to the terrible rash of injuries this year, the Babers system is a total sea change for this defense, and not just in terms of how the actually play between the lines, either. Everything that this team does, from practice on up, is different. It takes time to adjust to that.

This isn't to say that there aren't some problems here that need to be addressed, nor does it mean that there aren't some questions that probably should be answered (such as, why do they choose to play off in pass coverage). However, this is a work in progress, and even without the personnel losses and the injuries, five games is not enough time to give a proper up-or-down vote on what we're seeing.

If we get to this time next season and the results are the same, then that will be a different story -- but I'm going to go on record to say that the 2015 defense WILL be significantly better.

[Flipper]

Dino likes to sling the BS...

[jpfalcon09]

Babers biggest issue right now are the comments he made after the Indiana game, he seems to have alienated some of the fans and media with them. He's been very cheerleader"ish" with his comments to the media and its rubbed some fans the wrong way. You look at how Steve Spurrier isn't scared to call his team's performance a couple weeks ago embarrassing, Babers should feel that way about his defense, if not worse. Gonna be tough to recruit kids on that side of the ball when ESPN games in November will be quick to mention a defense that is close to last in the nation in every defensive category. Babers needs to take ownership and vow to correct it like a head coach should do, not offer up a ridiculous answer like he did. These questions aren't going to simply stop being asked if every game ends up being a carbon copy of the last. I'm glad Jordan Strack pushed the issue and made Dino a little upset.

[Flipper]

Actually..a bad defense would make it easier to recruit kids as it suggests that there will be immediate opportunities.

I think it was a dick move by Strack to ask that question...it's pretty clear that week one was an utter fiasco and I think it's clear that the coach has addressed it in that context. Anyone with an IQ over 12 should be able to figure out that improving and progressing as a unit has been made tougher by a rash of injuries....3 SR starters have gone out... does Strack think that isn't an issue?

So far as the post game comments go...get over it. Sorry if the guy's enthusiasm rubs people the wrong way. When criticizing Babers for getting testy consider this...after the IU game some dipshit reporter brought up the WKU game. Biggest win at home for the school in ages and you want to flip the calendar back to discuss a week one loss? F.U...
Babers brushed off that question and left it open for discussion for the following week, but I don't blame him one bit for being irritated by it....he's trying to get the team to focus on improving and moving forward and some jerkoff reporter wants to play "gotcha"? I'd have been a lot less kind than Babers was

[Falconwriter]

Total Defense/Scoring Defense:

2013: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
5 teams. NM State (2-10), Cal (1-11), Idaho (1-11), New Mexico (3-9), Eastern Mich (2-10)

2012: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 Teams, Baylor was close, but this is the season they went 8-5 (4-4 in conference)

2011: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
1 team, Kansas (2-10), Ball St. was close, went 7-6 (4-4 in conference)

2010: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams. East Carolina closest (6-7), New Mexico 2nd closest (1-11)

2009: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams. Washington State the closest (1-11)

2008: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
1 team, SMU (1-11)

2007: 500+ypg, 40+ ppg
1 team, Rice (3-9)

2006: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams, closest is Louisiana Tech (3-9)

2005: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams, New Mexico St. closest (0-12)

2004: 500+ ypg, 40+ ppg
0 teams, Western Mich closest (1-11)

These teams combined to go 42-153 (27.4%), won zero conference titles and went to one bowl game.

This filter is for 500 ypg, 40 ppg. Bowling Green is currently allowing 620 ypg and 43.6 ppg

There have been approximately 1,200 team seasons played (120 FBS *10 yrs) and 130 conference winners over the past decade. Is Babers really THAT arrogant? That his system and philosophy are going to be so revolutionary that he's going to become the only coach to win with a defense that allows that many yards and points?

As I've stated before, even Baylor needed to develop a defense to start winning. They have a top-10 scoring defense in the country right now.

That famed Eastern Illinois team last year? They gave up 22.7 ppg last year and lost every game that they allowed over 40 points.

We get it, the defense is bad right now.

However, the stats above are 12 game seasons. We are 5 games in. Can we save these 'historical' comparisons until we have a full season of stats to compare to?

So, what you're basically saying is this: if two rooms in your 10-room home are completely engulfed in flames, you shouldn't worry about calling the fire department unless the entire house becomes an inferno.

Alrighty then.

[Flipper]

That has got to be the worst logical comparison I have ever heard in my life.....congratulations.

[Falconfreak90]

The D came up BiG when needed today. Gave up only 368 total yards on the day. Yeah we were gashed by Taylor for 200+ but he ran the ball 36 times. And there were a few holding calls not called on the UB line. We gave up only 134 yards passing. Huge improvement for the D.

[Falconwriter]

The D came up BiG when needed today. Gave up only 368 total yards on the day. Yeah we were gashed by Taylor for 200+ but he ran the ball 36 times. And there were a few holding calls not called on the UB line. We gave up only 134 yards passing. Huge improvement for the D.

I didn't get to see the game, but looked at the game summary and noticed BG had 3 turnovers. That will make what should have been a bit of an easier win a nail biter almost every time.

The improvement in yards permitted is very encouraging. I hope that means they've found some folks to fill in, and perhaps the defense is getting more comfortable with the scheme. But allowing over 30 ppg is still something to be concerned about, even though they've managed to win all these really close games so far.

If they can keep every team they play from now on at 360 total yards or less, and not turn the ball over, they'll win out. This offense can outscore most teams if they get even a little help from the defense.

[Falconfreak90]

Yeah, the TO's hurt. UB scored 28 pts in the first half...and 7 the rest of the game. The D was much better for the most part today. I can see the growth beginning.

[footballguy51]

I'll give credit where credit is due. This defense actually played pretty decent today. However, DO NOT TAUNT AFTER A TACKLE! How stupid!

Other than the taunting and the attempted throw for a sack, I wasn't actually too upset with the defense. I half jokingly said at the game that Buffalo just needed to stick to running because they were getting all of the yards they needed just on the ground. But, we made the stops when we needed to, so I'm going to saw good job to the defense. Good job. And, a special good job to Gus Schwieterman. That guy was a beast out there today!