Babers mentioned at Houston

[AZZZZ]

Thinking about this past year today and wondered, what if Kingston gave Scheier the HC job? Was he ready...I don't know. Didn't win the bowl but I saw some things that I liked while he was at the helm.

I know, it's like thinking about an old girlfriend and wondering what-if. But...what-if?

[BGSU33]

Personally I don't think he's a legit candidate...but if they offered him the job, he'd be on the first flight out of NW Ohio.

That's my take too.

[Falcon137]

Thinking about this past year today and wondered, what if Kingston gave Scheier the HC job? Was he ready...I don't know. Didn't win the bowl but I saw some things that I liked while he was at the helm.

I know, it's like thinking about an old girlfriend and wondering what-if. But...what-if?

I don't think they should have hired him.

But, it's funny some of the comments Babers made at the preseason lunch for season ticket holders about that game. Basically he said, it was extremely frustrating watching that game because he saw things going on and could have fixed them....after this year, I'm not so sure that game doesn't turn out 48-14 Pitt with him at the helm. Conner may have run for 400 yards.

[jpfalcon09]

The thing about Scheier or anyone from the Clawson staff getting the job is would they have kept the same structure of the offense and defense intact or gone a different route? Its no surprise that Kingston wanted to get his own coach and put his stamp on the program, but it makes you wonder if some continuity would've been the right thing to do after having Clawson build this program back from scratch. You look at NIU for example and they've endured success with three different head coaches while maintaining the same schemes on both sides of the ball. Later in the season with Babers, I got this terrible feeling that this program is going to yet again have to go through a re-build in order to effectively run his systems, and I think that's where a lot of the frustrations come into play.

[Flipper]

And maybe if we had acess to thermonuclear weapons we would have won...who gives a f**k... that was last year.

The LAST thing you want the program to go through now is another coaching change...I don't care if you hate Dino Babers and he shot your dog, you don't want to subject the players to a third coach in three years. it's madness....sheer insanity.

[MacGuy]

On the contrary, I'm expecting Houston to get a lot of interested candidates.
It's hard to find better recruiting area than Houston, for starters.
Second, Houston has great history - Andre Ware anyone? - and has been on a solid upswing for the past decade.
Third, the AAC is a good league and is a solid step up from the MAC, C-USA, and SBC. It's on par with, or maybe a bit ahead of, the MWC.
And finally speaking of conferences, it is a matter of when, not if, the Big 12 chooses to expand. This past weekend was an indication that the Big 12 absolutely needs a championship game to determine an actual champion. They'll be adding two, maybe four, teams soon ... maybe even this offseason given the exclusion in the playoff. Cincinnati looks like a slam dunk for the Big 12. Even though the state of Texas is very well represented, I can't help but think that Houston could still be a nice member in the Big 12, given their history.

So yeah ... I expect there will be lots of interested candidates at Houston. Yet another reason I just can't see them actually looking at Babers after only one year here.

Don't see the Big 12 expanding. Their Commish said over the weekend that they would likely ask for an exemption for having a playoff with only 10 teams. They can't find any schools that would make up for having to share the $250 million they are bringing in from TV etc. That's $25 M per school. Add two new schools and they are down to almost $20 M. Can Cincy or Memphis bring in $25M in equity every year. Don't think so.

[Dayons_Den]

The thing about Scheier or anyone from the Clawson staff getting the job is would they have kept the same structure of the offense and defense intact or gone a different route? Its no surprise that Kingston wanted to get his own coach and put his stamp on the program, but it makes you wonder if some continuity would've been the right thing to do after having Clawson build this program back from scratch. You look at NIU for example and they've endured success with three different head coaches while maintaining the same schemes on both sides of the ball. Later in the season with Babers, I got this terrible feeling that this program is going to yet again have to go through a re-build in order to effectively run his systems, and I think that's where a lot of the frustrations come into play.

Something I respected out of Clawson was his first year he wasn't really running his style. He coached based on personnel. Didn't try to fit square WR in round holes. I'm all in on Babers style and what he eventually wants to run. I just wish that he would have slowly transitioned based on our personnel- use a TE this season, slow the pace down once realizing things weren't working exactly as planned. I think the sign of a great coach is one that can abandon his style based on personnel and not stubbornly stick to his guns no matter wot.

[MarkL]

The thing about Scheier or anyone from the Clawson staff getting the job is would they have kept the same structure of the offense and defense intact or gone a different route? Its no surprise that Kingston wanted to get his own coach and put his stamp on the program, but it makes you wonder if some continuity would've been the right thing to do after having Clawson build this program back from scratch. You look at NIU for example and they've endured success with three different head coaches while maintaining the same schemes on both sides of the ball. Later in the season with Babers, I got this terrible feeling that this program is going to yet again have to go through a re-build in order to effectively run his systems, and I think that's where a lot of the frustrations come into play.

Something I respected out of Clawson was his first year he wasn't really running his style. He coached based on personnel. Didn't try to fit square WR in round holes. I'm all in on Babers style and what he eventually wants to run. I just wish that he would have slowly transitioned based on our personnel- use a TE this season, slow the pace down once realizing things weren't working exactly as planned. I think the sign of a great coach is one that can abandon his style based on personnel and not stubbornly stick to his guns no matter wot.

I agree. Rich Rodriguez inherited a great passer in Threet at Michigan in 2008. If Rodriguez would have developed a west-coast offense, similar to what the team was built to run but also transitioning toward a spread, I think Michigan would have been great in 2008.

As for us ... Babers originally indicated he was going to keep the original offense, just make it go up tempo all game. He said that casual fans would see an exciting, fast-paced offense, but big time football people would see mostly the same offense as before but run exclusively out of a no-huddle and with few substitutions to increase the pace.

Why we never saw that beats me ... especially when your starting QB goes down and the backup essentially is given training wheels. I always wondered all season long why we didn't run a similar offense to last year, which Knapke already knew, but run it with fewer formation changes / personnel substitutions and script three plays at a time.

Maybe next year when the offense is all set and Johnson is back we'll finally see #FalconFast all season long and finally see us blow past opponents.

[Flipper]

That's the one thing about this season that mystifies me to no end. We were promised a sleek panther...we even saw that panther over a several game stretch. We finished the season with Grumpy cat....it doesn't just look like a case of the opposition adjusting to us...we altered our approach. We became completely predictable and ignored larged chunks of the field to focus on a small number of areas (sidelines 30 yards downfield). I really don't get it...

[mscarn]

It's worth traveling to Montgomery just to yell "Use the middle of the field!" and hope one of the coaches on the sidelines hears it.

[jpfalcon09]

That's the one thing about this season that mystifies me to no end. We were promised a sleek panther...we even saw that panther over a several game stretch. We finished the season with Grumpy cat....it doesn't just look like a case of the opposition adjusting to us...we altered our approach. We became completely predictable and ignored larged chunks of the field to focus on a small number of areas (sidelines 30 yards downfield). I really don't get it...

In terms of the sidelines throws, some guy told me at the MACC that the reason for all those sideline passes was to have the WR quickly sub off the field after the play. If you noticed, a lot of those throws were directed towards the BG sideline...not sure if that's true but its an interesting observation. It's all well and good as long as your QB can hit those throws consistently. We all saw in November how those throws became nothing but futile attempts and makes me shake my head even more that adjustments weren't made to attack the middle of the field.

[jpfalcon09]

Tom Herman got the job.

[Flipper]

Of course...Tom Herman!!!


Who?

[jpfalcon09]

Of course...Tom Herman!!!


Who?

Ohio State's OC.

[kdog27]

It's worth traveling to Montgomery just to yell "Use the middle of the field!" and hope one of the coaches on the sidelines hears it.

I got your back and considering there will probably 8,000 people there they probably won't have trouble hearing me.