Jhalil Croley Arrested

[Schadenfreude]

The primary concern here should be the well-being of the college students involved. Here's what gmartin said:

members of our football team constantly visit Hollywood Casino immediately after morning practice.

gmartin said "constantly." Maybe that overstates it. But what if it doesn't?

If I constantly saw players at the casino every morning after practice, I'd consider giving a coach a friendly heads up about that. But that's just me.

[AZZZZ]

My main concerns are:

1) Focus: If they are in fact running up there after practice and I personally saw a player during the MAC Championship week, where are their heads? Should be on academics and their team in my opinion.

2) Representation: The player I saw had the grey Adidas Falcon hoodie on with grey athletic department sweat pants, he stood out like a sore thumb and not just b/c I have a BGSU radar.

3)Behavior Pattern: The point fixing scandal at Toledo is still making headlines. I'm not suggesting anything close to that but do we want our student athletes engaged in this kind of behavior on an ongoing basis?

These are just my thoughts.

[Falconwriter]

Who cares if players are gambling? It's their money, they can do whatever they want. And for the record, players were doing it last year too so I don't see what the point is.

WHO CARES!!!! I DO. The money my parents and I and other donors who donate to the Falcon Club are spent on our student athletes gambling. These students don't have jobs. They don't have incomes. I work hard for my and so do others and we donate money to the university for scholarships and to help the athletic department. Not to be gambled away. I'm glad others have seen our students gambling. I bet they feel the same way. I'm ok with athletes having a social life but gambling away money gets to me. What would happen if the casino have these athletes 'free meals'. That is a NCAA violation. Wonder if anyone thought of that?

I'm not an alarmist by nature, but I find the fact that several players don't even take time to change into regular clothes before hitting a casino a bit unsettling. It tells me they likely have a problem; and that means they could be easy targets for those associated with gambling who are NOT of the best character. And that is where the NCAA becomes concerned as well. I would hope these guys would be smarter than this, or hope that coaches explain to them the inherent risks of having such a "lifestyle" but I'm not convinced this staff takes that much interest in the players outside of football practice.

[jpfalcon09]

If you're concerned about it then say something to the administration and let it be known. I'm sure the coaches are aware of what's going on and if not then they're either incredibly naive or the players have done an excellent job at keeping it under wraps.

[apollo]

Hopefully someone is going to look into this....I don't think it is a good thing if players are hanging out consistently in the casino. It may be nothing.....but running up to the casino in the mid morning and early afternoon on a consistent basis probably isn't a great habit to get into as DI athlete.

Although, maybe BGSU has outsouced its training table up to the casino and the guys are just stopping into grab lunch....lol

[MarkL]

Everybody ... it is OK to be concerned. But writing stories on a message board is not a good way to voice concerns.

We have an associate AD for compliance (Jermaine Truax, [email protected]) and of course an AD (Chris Kingston, [email protected]). If you're really concerned, voice your concern, especially if you have personally seen these events. This is probably a nothing to see here, move along scenario, but even if it is the department would like to know that alums are concerned about the welfare of current student athletes.

[hammb]

Security is pretty decent at the casino...nearly impossible to get in underage unless you had a VERY good fake ID. I'm going to assume the players doing it are 21+

Gambling is legal in Ohio.

Athletes oftentimes don't change after practice...I'm sure they showered, but I see athletes in their team gear on and off campus on a regular basis.

I don't know what their class schedule is but to say that they should be focused on their school or football 24x7 is absolutely ridiculous to me...and we have no right to demand such things. With the athlete's schedules maybe that's one of the times they can get some free time? I don't know, and I don't care to speculate. If they're not getting into trouble I really don't care how they spend their FREE time...it's FREE.

Again, security is pretty tight at the casino...far less likelihood of getting into trouble up there than there is in your typical bar/club/party in BG.

I don't know...seems to me this would be a non-issue, non-story if people weren't pissed off about the 3 game losing streak. Now the basis of this thread, originally? If true, Jhalil, what a dumbass. I have no problem with weed, don't care who smokes it (again so long as it is not interfering with team/school), but good god man don't sell it (although it seems half the time they get busted with this it's selling a small amount to a buddy...still stupid). And certainly don't resist arrest...it only makes it worse.

I'm sure Babers will handle this appropriately and hopefully it'll serve as an example that this behavior cannot and will not be tolerated.

[Globetrotter]

My main concerns are:

1) Focus: If they are in fact running up there after practice and I personally saw a player during the MAC Championship week, where are their heads? Should be on academics and their team in my opinion.

2) Representation: The player I saw had the grey Adidas Falcon hoodie on with grey athletic department sweat pants, he stood out like a sore thumb and not just b/c I have a BGSU radar.

3)Behavior Pattern: The point fixing scandal at Toledo is still making headlines. I'm not suggesting anything close to that but do we want our student athletes engaged in this kind of behavior on an ongoing basis?

These are just my thoughts.

I agree with all of this. when I was in school I didn't have time to go to the Casino 4 days a week in Toledo and I didn't have what amounts to football players a 20+ hour a week job to try to balance.

[Class of 61]

My main concerns are:

1) Focus: If they are in fact running up there after practice and I personally saw a player during the MAC Championship week, where are their heads? Should be on academics and their team in my opinion.

2) Representation: The player I saw had the grey Adidas Falcon hoodie on with grey athletic department sweat pants, he stood out like a sore thumb and not just b/c I have a BGSU radar.

3)Behavior Pattern: The point fixing scandal at Toledo is still making headlines. I'm not suggesting anything close to that but do we want our student athletes engaged in this kind of behavior on an ongoing basis?

These are just my thoughts.

I agree with all of this. when I was in school I didn't have time to go to the Casino 4 days a week in Toledo and I didn't have what amounts to football players a 20+ hour a week job to try to balance.

I also agree... When the heck do these guys take time to.....STUDY.... Or is that a forgotten word at this time?
And I know I'm from a different generation than most of you....but to ME marijuana IS a drug... What an utterly STUPID thing to do...let cops in house, then resist arrest, the bigger offense IMO... I was just thinking how OSU's QB was stupid w/ his girlfriend/ his 911 calls, then this happens to a BG player. Glad they're not wasting time...after the Houston incident, is this a " Columbus" thing?

[Flipper]

On balance...I literally could not care less about the "gambling issue".

[hammb]

My main concerns are:

1) Focus: If they are in fact running up there after practice and I personally saw a player during the MAC Championship week, where are their heads? Should be on academics and their team in my opinion.

2) Representation: The player I saw had the grey Adidas Falcon hoodie on with grey athletic department sweat pants, he stood out like a sore thumb and not just b/c I have a BGSU radar.

3)Behavior Pattern: The point fixing scandal at Toledo is still making headlines. I'm not suggesting anything close to that but do we want our student athletes engaged in this kind of behavior on an ongoing basis?

These are just my thoughts.

I agree with all of this. when I was in school I didn't have time to go to the Casino 4 days a week in Toledo and I didn't have what amounts to football players a 20+ hour a week job to try to balance.

Meh...I worked 25-30 hours a week all through college along with taking full time courseload, maintained a 3.8+ GPA, and still had time to have a damned good time on weekends and play some intramural sports as well.

It is a MASSIVE leap to go from going to the casino to play some cards and shaving points/fixing games. Trying to remember when the poker boom hit, but I think it was after I graduated when I added 15+ hours a week of poker to my habits... Which is still gambling, but also a game of skill and if you're good a damned fine way to make some side spending cash.

To me this, in itself, is a complete non-story and we, as fans, have absolutely NO right to harp on it. If they miss practices or meetings because of it? Problem. If they're skipping classes to go? Problem. If they're gambling addicts that are borrowing money to support the habit? Huge problem. Failing grades because of it? Problem.

Going to the casino to gamble and have some fun in the middle of the day when you don't have team or school obligations? Completely normal and no big deal whatsoever.

This just sounds like a bunch of whiny pissy fans that think since the team struggled down the stretch they should spend every waking moment trying to get better at football. Sure, we'd love a team full of those sorts of guys, but they're still college kids and I have no beef with them enjoying their free time in any legal manner they see fit. This is the same self righteous bullshit that fans pull when Manziel spends his weekends off in Vegas, or off-nights at the Cavs game. None of our business, and quite likely has no bearing on how well they play on the field or perform in the classroom. These are college kids...if they're not playing cards at the Casino they're just as likely to be playing video games in a dorm as they are to be studying the playbook.

[gspointer]

My main concerns are:

1) Focus: If they are in fact running up there after practice and I personally saw a player during the MAC Championship week, where are their heads? Should be on academics and their team in my opinion.

2) Representation: The player I saw had the grey Adidas Falcon hoodie on with grey athletic department sweat pants, he stood out like a sore thumb and not just b/c I have a BGSU radar.

3)Behavior Pattern: The point fixing scandal at Toledo is still making headlines. I'm not suggesting anything close to that but do we want our student athletes engaged in this kind of behavior on an ongoing basis?

These are just my thoughts.

I agree with all of this. when I was in school I didn't have time to go to the Casino 4 days a week in Toledo and I didn't have what amounts to football players a 20+ hour a week job to try to balance.

A lot of things are legal but college football players should not be doing it. This shows a loose ship and that ship has also sunk on the field. You are way off here.

[gspointer]

Sorry, meat to reply to ham here.

[Flipper]

Sign of a loose ship? Pure nonsense...was it a sign of a loose ship when everyone was all giddy last year? Guys were gambling last year...guys were smoking dope. We didn't lose three straight...that's the difference.

[jpfalcon09]

Yep, there were numerous pictures and tweets of players last year up at Hollywood Casino, often during the week. If you're against gambling, that's fine, but the fact as mentioned earlier is that gambling is legal in Ohio so these guys are doing nothing wrong, and more importantly its their personal life so who are we to dictate what they can and can't do. If you're upset about it, email someone at the university. I doubt you'll get much of a response since this is such a petty issue and quite frankly feels like a witch hunt on Babers to me. If you're a donor or a member of the Falcon club and don't want to give money because of it, by all means go ahead, that's your right to do it.

As far as Croley goes, the resisting arrest charge is more problematic than selling weed.