Chris Jans Fired

[Falcon Fanatic]

Who cares how the people reported this are acting... They are not the victims of this. Many of us would have stood by and been innocent bystanders and got a good laugh and told people the story. I applaud these people for taking a stand. The basketball staff obviously wasn't looking out for him others might as well. The action was wrong and a dismissible offense. Too many people would have stood by and watched and that's what's wrong with a lot of things today, people are afraid to cry foul when a foul has occurred. Mostly because of trolls out there and some of you are them, lurking on twitter accounts and following retweets, they become the victims for what telling someone they are out of line. I have no clue who these people are and don't care, but this kind of activity would have come out eventually. If you are reading this Thank you for reporting his to AD Kingston. As a Falcon Club member and season ticket holder to multiple sports this only makes our athletic department stronger. Let's not forget why he was dismissed. THAT'S THE ISSUE.

THIS!!!! And yes I enlarged the last comments to emphasize it!

[Flipper]

No one is defending Jans...at least I'm not. He's lucky that a criminal report wasn't filed and he wasn't charged with something like sexual imposition (yes...people have been criminally charged for playing "grab ass") . I didn't like the tone of the letter to Kingston..the threat to "go national"...I diddn't like the dancing on the grave bit on twitter that followed Jans' dismissal and frankly, I wouldn't have let my daughter approach a drunk in the bar. Handle that s**t yourself, call a manager or STFU about it and leave. You don't let a woman handle that.

[BleedOrange]

There's a lot of speculation out here on potential "issues" of past behavior, abrasiveness, and alcoholism. All of them are possible, but none of them are known facts. Most likely, this incident was an outlier for Jans, even if he is a bar hopping alcoholic.

Someone said that Jans should never have gone out in downtown BG. Very wise. No college head coach should be seen dead at the college bars. For a grown man in a public position, no good can come from being in that scenario.

The shock has waned. Now, for me, there's a feeling like someone has died, as if Jans got a gun and blew his own head off.

What are the players going to do? Who leaves? Will we keep the three that we signed in November? This is also a very tough career and life situation for the assistant coaches.

[Globetrotter]

No one is defending Jans...at least I'm not. He's lucky that a criminal report wasn't filed and he wasn't charged with something like sexual imposition (yes...people have been criminally charged for playing "grab ass") . I didn't like the tone of the letter to Kingston..the threat to "go national"...I diddn't like the dancing on the grave bit on twitter that followed Jans' dismissal and frankly, I wouldn't have let my daughter approach a drunk in the bar. Handle that s**t yourself, call a manager or STFU about it and leave. You don't let a woman handle that.

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[CrazyFan]

I'm not defending Jans either. Dude deserved to be fired. He acted totally irresponsible and unbecoming of the position he held with the university. My problem is the Tillers and how some people are holding this family, and honestly the way the family is holding themselves, out to be hero's, because they are not. The Tillers are partly to blame in this whole mess. They weren't the main problem; that was obviously Jans. But by their actions, they helped create the situation that transpired.

Let me pose a questions to everyone. How would you feel is you, your spouse or a close family member made a mistake. We all make mistakes. It's part of life. But then that mistake is thrown into your/family members face and your scolded by someone you don't even know. THEN that same person tells you they have been secretly recording you, WITHOUT your permission. Would you be a little mad? I would be FU**ING IRATE! It's a low blow and a cheap shot. And you all would be mad also. It's easy to sit here and act like it's no big deal, until it happens to you and your privacy is invaded like that.

To me the Tillers are low class people for this, but that's just my opinion. They should have never of approached Jans in the first place. Like Flipper said; call a manager or STFU about it and leave. They can still write their threatening email to Kingston, but it would of never escalated to the point it did. The Tillers are far from Alumni family of the year in this whole thing and I would be embarrassed to be a Tiller, especially after gloating on Twitter after the fact.

It will be interesting to see how the next couple of months play out and how much of a legal case Jans has against the Tillers. I would assume that he's already lawyered up. At least I would have.

[BGFan]

I seriously doubt that he has any case whatsoever. These days big brother is watching our every move, whether it be by street cameras, security cameras, or personal cell phones. He was the cause of his own downfall, plain and simple. If the Tillers hadn't reported him, someone else down the line likely would have. It was just a matter of time.

[Lord_Byron]

I don't see how he'd have a case unless there was some sort of slander in the e-mails/tweets. Very tough for a public figure.

As far as a case against the University, my guess is he had a "public behavior" clause in his contract. Once he violated that, he was in breach of contract and could be terminated.

Jackie Chiles could win this one for the university.

[HoopsFan]

Where's the "This topic Sucks" emoticon when you need it.

I'm not on the "Jans desered to be fired" bandwagon. Sure, he embarrassed himself and the university. Put yourself in his shoes. He's x number of miles away from "home", alone, and he just got creamed in a game that he appeared to not have prepared well enough for. I was ready to start drinking at HALFTIME and I was just in the stands.

Whoever (Clapacs) took him to the bar should have been responsible for his safety, because, clearly he didn't belong there. Had it been me, either as a fan or as a coach, I would have hustled the drunk out of the bar. That's what we do for our friends. We don't know the particulars of Jans' prior behavior; he may have already used up his warnings.
However, it is already done and, unless Kingston, pulls a DD2 are rehires Jans, we're out a coach.

I haven't partied in a bar for about 10 years, but I also have 20 years more experience than coach Jans. At 45, I was right there with him, except for the mouthiness. Honest, he'll grow out if it This certainly should be a come to Jesus moment.



HoopsFan

[Globetrotter]

Where's the "This topic Sucks" emoticon when you need it.

I'm not on the "Jans desered to be fired" bandwagon. Sure, he embarrassed himself and the university. Put yourself in his shoes. He's x number of miles away from "home", alone, and he just got creamed in a game that he appeared to not have prepared well enough for. I was ready to start drinking at HALFTIME and I was just in the stands.

Whoever (Clapacs) took him to the bar should have been responsible for his safety, because, clearly he didn't belong there. Had it been me, either as a fan or as a coach, I would have hustled the drunk out of the bar. That's what we do for our friends. We don't know the particulars of Jans' prior behavior; he may have already used up his warnings.
However, it is already done and, unless Kingston, pulls a DD2 are rehires Jans, we're out a coach.

I haven't partied in a bar for about 10 years, but I also have 20 years more experience than coach Jans. At 45, I was right there with him, except for the mouthiness. Honest, he'll grow out if it This certainly should be a come to Jesus moment.

HoopsFan

I remember awhile back there was a guy who was smoking weed with Micheal Phelps and took a picture and then it got out. The Daily Show made a great point of why in the world are you thinking lets get a picture of this when you are smoking weed with Micheal Phelps. I get letting Chris Kingston know. I don't get taking a video. I hope I would have said. Hey coach lets get you home. Now I know plenty of people who are inebriated who would fight that and not go home quietly. But I don't get the "I need to give him a piece of my mind" crowd.

[guest44]

Wait, let me get this straight. The Tillers son's girlfriend works at Reverand's? WOW An employee of the bar was part of a group that took cellphone video inside the bar they work for? Can anyone confirm this? She is also the same girl that tweeted up a storm when firing was announced, same girl Strack was following on Twitter.

[vwfalcon]

Time for a little context. He was in Reverends, which is an adult bar. He wasn't in a "college" bar like 149, Tubbys, Shots, Liquid, or the Attic. Revs is one of if not the most mature bar in town. He wasn't around 18-20 year olds partying or anything of that nature. So my question to you is, if he can't go there where can he go? If you can honestly say you have never had a late night at a bar as an adult I will be shocked. Are some of you trying to say that coaches at our university can't have adult beverages? (yes, he certainly had a few to many)

[Flipper]

No...they can't get drunk and grab women's butts ....unless they're asked to...and even then it probably isn't a good idea.

[vwfalcon]

Flip, I was posing the question based on some of the statements asking why he was at a bar, not what his actions were.

[FalconTurf]

Rules for broken that night:
1. Don't let your daughter, wife or girlfriend confront a drunk, an ex or a rival - there's gonna be a fight and then what are you going to do? And what might happen to her since you let her enter a dangerous situation?
2. Don't let your employees record a situation in your bar that they should be ethically obligated to control as a sober employee.
3. Don't let your boss ruin his career and thus interfere with your ability for income and references while apparently being the DD.
4. Don't do something your employer (in this case the citizens of the state of Ohio) cannot possibly sweep under the rug.

Jans had the most to lose and he lost. The family involved hurt their reputation but were very lucky their little girl didn't get harmed more than name calling slung her way. If the drunk goes home an hour or two earlier, consumes less or has a better network of friends at the bar he still has a job - all three issues are within his control. Too bad the staff didn't go over to Jans house party, take cabs home and make today just another Monday. Too bad the leader screwed up and I just can't see how BGSU could save him from fullcourt press on his integrity and on the program.

[hammb]

Time for a little context. He was in Reverends, which is an adult bar. He wasn't in a "college" bar like 149, Tubbys, Shots, Liquid, or the Attic. Revs is one of if not the most mature bar in town. He wasn't around 18-20 year olds partying or anything of that nature. So my question to you is, if he can't go there where can he go? If you can honestly say you have never had a late night at a bar as an adult I will be shocked. Are some of you trying to say that coaches at our university can't have adult beverages? (yes, he certainly had a few to many)

I get your point and agree. Was thinking that earlier with people saying he shouldn't be out to college bars. Revs is far from a college bar. It's the closest thing we really have to a good townie, foodie, beer snob hangout. My wife and I probably average two or more trips there a month and the crowd is decidedly NOT college. I mean, yeah there are some, but for the most part it's a young adult to middle age hangout.

Great food, good beer, generally laid back atmosphere. It's my cheers, now if only my bartenders wouldn't leave!