Coaching Search List the 2015 edition . . .

[mscarn]

Lets get someone big time and let him figure it out.

A year ago the stated goal was to be the next Gonzaga (eventually, of course). That was specifically mentioned when Mr. Frack's donation was made as his desired intention.

There is no reason to deviate from that mission now, and the individual hired has to fit that profile, understand the expectations and have a proven blueprint on how to get there.

[mscarn]

On Downey, it sounds like he turned down the UALR job after heavy interest from them, something he wouldn't have done if he didn't think he'd have a legitimate shot here. At the very least he could stay on staff if someone else gets the HC job.

[Globetrotter]

Lets get someone big time and let him figure it out.

A year ago the stated goal was to be the next Gonzaga (eventually, of course). That was specifically mentioned when Mr. Frack's donation was made as his desired intention.

There is no reason to deviate from that mission now, and the individual hired has to fit that profile, understand the expectations and have a proven blueprint on how to get there.

I agree. Lets go be Gonzaga. Find a big name coach to take us there. Someone who knows waht its like to be Gonzaga is fine. I think Jans profile made tons of sense. But I wouldn't ignore A MSU or OSU coach either.

[Rollo83]

I know I mentioned this name before Orr got hired, but Greg Kampe at Oakland would be an interesting choice. He's had a ton of success with Oakland and got them to the NCAA Tournament a couple of times...even winning a game.

Unfortunately, he was someone we should of look at a decade ago. He's probably too entrenched at Oakland to move at this point in his career. I still remember him as the point guard on the mid- to late-70's BG teams as well as the punter on the football team.

[OSUFALCON]

I know I mentioned this name before Orr got hired, but Greg Kampe at Oakland would be an interesting choice. He's had a ton of success with Oakland and got them to the NCAA Tournament a couple of times...even winning a game.

Unfortunately, he was someone we should of look at a decade ago. He's probably too entrenched at Oakland to move at this point in his career. I still remember him as the point guard on the mid- to late-70's BG teams as well as the punter on the football team.

Greg is a great guy but this isn't going to happen. He could have been hired after Dan Dakish but not now.

Hire Mark Downey and hold the team and coaches together. He is a stand up guy and will be a head coach of a D 1 sometime soon.

[Flipper]

Gonzaga elevated an assistant with no HC experience named Dan Monson in 1997...he killed it and got hired by Minnesota. He was replaced from within by one of his assistants...Mark Few...with no HC experience. Hell, Few's never worked anywhere but Gonzaga. If you want to be the next Gonzaga, you're advocating giving the job to Downey....

[OSUFALCON]

well put

[Globetrotter]

Gonzaga elevated an assistant with no HC experience named Dan Monson in 1997...he killed it and got hired by Minnesota. He was replaced from within by one of his assistants...Mark Few...with no HC experience. Hell, Few's never worked anywhere but Gonzaga. If you want to be the next Gonzaga, you're advocating giving the job to Downey....

How was the team when Monson took it over in 1997?

We have the opportunity to go out and get a coach with a much higher profile. We should do that.

Is he nice. YES
Has he coached before at any level. YES

Was he part of the staff we just had to fire. YES.
Does he have extremely limited experience in division one. YES.
Did we just hire someone with great experience on the top mid major in the country. YES

After the amazing hire we just made, and the names that are available, I would like to say it's unbelievable that this fanbase is even considering Downey. But I think that there are a ton of super lazy fans out there who just want what they know.

The reality is if he had this same coaching profile/history and happened to be Hurley's top assistant in Buffalo for ONE YEAR. He wouldn't even come close to consideration. Not even in the discussion.

[Falcon137]

I think it's worth mentioning, Gonzaga in '97 was already a pretty good program and clearly on the rise. BG in '15 is not a good program and little tradition the past 10 years. Maybe Jans was developing it, maybe not. Next year was not going to be a 20 win team even with him.

BG needs a coach and staff who can go get players.

[OptionQB]

Call me lazy that's fine, but let's look at the facts of the matter . . .

Mark Downey is 204-103 as a HEAD COACH. That's not Division I but it's not the friggen Y league either . . . These are teams that he has recruited and DEVELOPED. He has familiarity with the JUCO system and can continue to plug roster holes by attracting JUCO talent, which in my book is a HUGE plus (JUCO experience).

Dwayne Stephens, Jeff Boals, Bacari Alexander and Greg Gard are all 0-0 as head coaches. Can they be successful? ABSOLUTELY. Because they come from B1G staffs does it guarantee it? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Watch game film. That's all. Boals is never in the middle of the huddle drawing up stuff for Matta's teams. His big men have gotten worse not better since he showed up on campus and (broken record) they have DEVELOPED NO ONE.

Stephens, Alexander and Gard have all been on staffs that developed the hell out of players. But again, success at that level is not a guarantee at the MAC level. Downey is a grinder. Give me that guy because in 9/10 seasons, it's resulted in a winning season. Sounds a helluva lot like Dave Clawson to me . . .

[Hdog]

Call me lazy that's fine, but let's look at the facts of the matter . . .

Mark Downey is 204-103 as a HEAD COACH. That's not Division I but it's not the friggen Y league either . . . These are teams that he has recruited and DEVELOPED. He has familiarity with the JUCO system and can continue to plug roster holes by attracting JUCO talent, which in my book is a HUGE plus (JUCO experience).

Dwayne Stephens, Jeff Boals, Bacari Alexander and Greg Gard are all 0-0 as head coaches. Can they be successful? ABSOLUTELY. Because they come from B1G staffs does it guarantee it? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Watch game film. That's all. Boals is never in the middle of the huddle drawing up stuff for Matta's teams. His big men have gotten worse not better since he showed up on campus and (broken record) they have DEVELOPED NO ONE.

Stephens, Alexander and Gard have all been on staffs that developed the hell out of players. But again, success at that level is not a guarantee at the MAC level. Downey is a grinder. Give me that guy because in 9/10 seasons, it's resulted in a winning season. Sounds a helluva lot like Dave Clawson to me . . .

I have no problem with Downey if it's determined he has the ability to be the head coach and lead and drive the program. I like his resume. Also, the fact that he is a relative "no name" may provide extra motivation.

I also have no problem hiring elsewhere. Just bring in a guy that has talent as a head guy and is the whole package - that stipulation must drive this whole interview process!!

Globe, it's just as easy to be "lazy" and bring in some big program guy - just because...

However, I do get your point - don't do the easy path on this hire. I think we all are saying the same thing.

[Flipper]

Gonzage wasn't nything special prior to Monson...they made the NIT in 94 and the tournament in 95...but it isn't like they had some sustained run of excellence prior to the run at the Elite 8. They built their program hiring guys who they knew and trusted. I want Kingston to hire the man he thinks is best suited for the job. I don't care if that guy is a household name that will pop ESPN, BCSN, the UN or any other group. I don't want to disqualify anyone because they aren't a "sexy" candidate...I don't want to qualify anyone because they worked at a big school. Hire a guy that can find talent, sell BGSU, develop the talent once it's here and most importantly, graduate those kids and help them reach their potential.

[JohnFloyd4Life]

Kampe has been at Oakland for 30 years now. Definitely not leaving for a lateral move.

We need to understand that Downey would be fine, but I think its a waste of the Frack money. You could have hired Downey without it, I think we need to focus on candidates that we couldn't have touched without Frack's money. Seems pretty logical.

[Globetrotter]

Kampe has been at Oakland for 30 years now. Definitely not leaving for a lateral move.

We need to understand that Downey would be fine, but I think its a waste of the Frack money. You could have hired Downey without it, I think we need to focus on candidates that we couldn't have touched without Frack's money. Seems pretty logical.

Would you have hired Downey over Jans?

What did Jans have that Downey didn't?

We are hiring another Jans, not another Downey.

I completely respect and bow to Options coaching information and ideas. However, I can't imagine we would take the top assistant off the program we want to be one year and the next year choose Downey. They just don't have the same profile.

[OSUFALCON]

Kampe has been at Oakland for 30 years now. Definitely not leaving for a lateral move.

We need to understand that Downey would be fine, but I think its a waste of the Frack money. You could have hired Downey without it, I think we need to focus on candidates that we couldn't have touched without Frack's money. Seems pretty logical.

Why waste Flacks money if we don't need to? We will be paying any coach far more than Orr. Flacks money made up the difference to get Jans. Our new coach will be paid in The 250k-325K range. Plenty of good coachs will work for that.