Recruiting 2015 (After Huger Hire)

[Flipper]

This team seems shrouded in mystery again. Back to the days of Orr.

What...specifically (i.e not just saying "use twitter") ... would you like to see Huger do differently?

I'm not sure I would like to see Huger do anything differently. I would like to know why six players, nearly 50% of the team, were listed as transferring and are still listed on two very reputable sites.....
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-go ... nsfer-list" target="_blank
http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/bowling-green" target="_blank

......who is actually returning and who is not, why they decided to leave if they are leaving. We have 3 different news organizations that cover this team. It would seem a phone call or 2 could clear this up. All we have is the statement "we have not signed releases for anyone." It completely ignores the fact that 2 reputable places have a list of 6 players transferring. It might be that Huger is more guarded. It might be that the media is too busy/uninterested/think they answered the question. I don't know. All I know is what I wrote. We had an idea of what was going on with Jans. Under Orr we had no idea who we were recruiting, why we weren't using a 13th scholarship or if DeMarkeo Lyshe was on scholarship. This feels a lot more like Orr than Jans.

By definition...I don't think you can say that sources who say a half dozen or so guys are leaving are reputable when the people running the program indicate that no one has obtained a release. Roster management after a coaching change..let alone two in two years..is a fluid process. I don't expect the school to address every rumor and report that bounces around out there. What possible difference does any of this make right now any way? we tip off in the fall, let's worry about the roster when camp opens, not May 12

[bgbill]

Go to one of the Coaches' Caravan events and ask Coach Huger directly. He will tell you one player is not returning, all the others are staying.

[Globetrotter]

So, you want total clarity less than a month after a new coach is hired, when the previous coach was fired unexpectedly. Good luck with that in the transfer culture that is college basketball. I'd suggest taking a month or two off from those reputable places and revisit your "dream roster" about mid July.

"Total clarity". No. If you dont think this feels more like Orr then Jans you are not being honest.

[Flipper]

FFS...it's been a month...

[Globetrotter]

Go to one of the Coaches' Caravan events and ask Coach Huger directly. He will tell you one player is not returning, all the others are staying.

Thats not something I am able to do. Do we know what player that is? I'd imagine Dickerson. If we have to go to individual coaches caravans to get information like that it's problematic. Did he mention why they were all listed as transferring?

[Globetrotter]

FFS...it's been a month...

Yep. It shouldn't take a month to get these things cleared up. You are correct. It should take five minutes.

You honestly have such an odd negative attitude. You act like I am asking for something crazy. I would expect at any program that this stuff would be talked about and clarified as soon as possible. I don't want to go back to the times where we sat on a scholarship for a year and no one asked the coach why.

[Globetrotter]

From the information I have, it looks like the only one of the current players that is leaving is Dickerson, and that is from a very reliable source.

Thats great news. Any word as to why the others were on the lists?

[Globetrotter]

This team seems shrouded in mystery again. Back to the days of Orr.

What...specifically (i.e not just saying "use twitter") ... would you like to see Huger do differently?

I'm not sure I would like to see Huger do anything differently. I would like to know why six players, nearly 50% of the team, were listed as transferring and are still listed on two very reputable sites.....
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/jeff-go ... nsfer-list" target="_blank
http://www.verbalcommits.com/schools/bowling-green" target="_blank

......who is actually returning and who is not, why they decided to leave if they are leaving. We have 3 different news organizations that cover this team. It would seem a phone call or 2 could clear this up. All we have is the statement "we have not signed releases for anyone." It completely ignores the fact that 2 reputable places have a list of 6 players transferring. It might be that Huger is more guarded. It might be that the media is too busy/uninterested/think they answered the question. I don't know. All I know is what I wrote. We had an idea of what was going on with Jans. Under Orr we had no idea who we were recruiting, why we weren't using a 13th scholarship or if DeMarkeo Lyshe was on scholarship. This feels a lot more like Orr than Jans.

By definition...I don't think you can say that sources who say a half dozen or so guys are leaving are reputable when the people running the program indicate that no one has obtained a release. Roster management after a coaching change..let alone two in two years..is a fluid process. I don't expect the school to address every rumor and report that bounces around out there. What possible difference does any of this make right now any way? we tip off in the fall, let's worry about the roster when camp opens, not May 12

You think because they might have an error in this one instance that they are not reputable. That's laughable logic. There is a reason everyone of those names appears on that list. They don't just pluck it from thin air.

[Flipper]

FFS...it's been a month...

Yep. It shouldn't take a month to get these things cleared up. You are correct. It should take five minutes.

You honestly have such an odd negative attitude. You act like I am asking for something crazy. I would expect at any program that this stuff would be talked about and clarified as soon as possible. I don't want to go back to the times where we sat on a scholarship for a year and no one asked the coach why.

Knee jerk hysterics... the coaches don't respond to rumors from a couple of websites and you go bonkers. They told us what the deal was...no one has been given a release. I think that covered it pretty well.

And no..the sites reporting this stuff aren't reputable. We had reports that a half dozen guys were gone and it looks like only one is...being right one tie out of six is an F on pretty much any grading scale (possible exception being UT) I know of

[Globetrotter]

FFS...it's been a month...

Yep. It shouldn't take a month to get these things cleared up. You are correct. It should take five minutes.

You honestly have such an odd negative attitude. You act like I am asking for something crazy. I would expect at any program that this stuff would be talked about and clarified as soon as possible. I don't want to go back to the times where we sat on a scholarship for a year and no one asked the coach why.

Knee jerk hysterics... the coaches don't respond to rumors from a couple of websites and you go bonkers. They told us what the deal was...no one has been given a release. I think that covered it pretty well.

And no..the sites reporting this stuff aren't reputable. We had reports that a half dozen guys were gone and it looks like only one is...being right one tie out of six is an F on pretty much any grading scale (possible exception being UT) I know of

I don't know what you think going bonkers or hysterics are.

[Globetrotter]

Keeping everyone this year is great for the long term. Gives us an entire year to fill those holes.

[transfer2BGSU]

FFS...it's been a month...

Yep. It shouldn't take a month to get these things cleared up. You are correct. It should take five minutes.

You honestly have such an odd negative attitude. You act like I am asking for something crazy. I would expect at any program that this stuff would be talked about and clarified as soon as possible. I don't want to go back to the times where we sat on a scholarship for a year and no one asked the coach why.

Knee jerk hysterics... the coaches don't respond to rumors from a couple of websites and you go bonkers. They told us what the deal was...no one has been given a release. I think that covered it pretty well.

And no..the sites reporting this stuff aren't reputable. We had reports that a half dozen guys were gone and it looks like only one is...being right one tie out of six is an F on pretty much any grading scale (possible exception being UT) I know of

Hey Factman - meet at B-Dubs. I need a as I watch this play out.

[Hdog]

Globe - not sure if this helps or not, but IMO this very same thing with off season communication could have happened if Jans were still here. By some accounts, there was thought to be players dissatisfied with how he ran the program, so there may have been more than 1 transfer if no coaching change was made. We will never know... But, I dought that confirming info would have been made available any more quickly than it is now.

I think the level of communication is what it is at BG. We are not a huge budget, Power 5 conference program with years and years of tradition, a huge following, a beat news-reporter, etc, etc. So I think the available info and interest in the program matches where we are currently.

I appreciate your "frustration", some people call that passion

[footballguy51]

Globe - not sure if this helps or not, but IMO this very same thing with off season communication could have happened if Jans were still here. By some accounts, there was thought to be players dissatisfied with how he ran the program, so there may have been more than 1 transfer if no coaching change was made. We will never know... But, I dought that confirming info would have been made available any more quickly than it is now.

I think the level of communication is what it is at BG. We are not a huge budget, Power 5 conference program with years and years of tradition, a huge following, a beat news-reporter, etc, etc. So I think the available info and interest in the program matches where we are currently.

I appreciate your "frustration", some people call that passion

Honestly, that may be where the six names came from. Maybe we were looking at 5 or 6 transfers if Jans stayed, but with him gone either 1 that wasn't going to transfer before chose to or only 1 from that list of 6 is transferring. In that case, those reputable sites are working off old information.

[mscarn]

In that case, those reputable sites are working off old information.

This could all be settled by a 30 second phone call.

(Ring, Ring)

VerbalCommits: Hello?
Person from BG: Hi, this is ___________ of the BGSU basketball program. You're reporting that six of our players are transferring when none are. I just wanted to clarify that the information is incorrect because it's causing some agita among our fans, as you'd expect. You guys are the go-to source for recruiting.
VerbalCommits: Oh, OK. We'll correct it. Thanks for clearing that up.
Person from BG: Sounds good. Have a great day.

Email would work just as well. The first step towards building a fan base beyond the die-hards is communicating with them, and that includes promptly quashing speculation that the entire season could be blown up before it even starts.