Tidbits from coaches caravan...

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Flipper wrote:Wow...This one game could cost us another Bill Frack? Geez... when you think about it, one of the guys on the team could have an issue with his jock right when he takes a shot to the nards. He could then be sterile and not father the next Gandhi... or Hitler.... or Pauley Shore.

The possibilities are mind boggling....
We are creating conditions that foster the opposite of what attracted Mr. Frack and others like him to the university, and it's not just one game, it's the season.

As long as we're postulating scenarios, let's abandon the MAC, go independent and fill the schedule with 12 teams consistently in the Top 25. We'd rake in millions, lose big so as not to worry about those meaningless filler bowl games and play in fancy stadiums. That's all that really matters. Money money money money money.
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Cost us a Bill Frack? One of the primary reasons he gave the $$$$$ was to try and upgrade the men's basketball schedule, especially at home. Not sure it is as easy as just money, but at least it helps if we can get someone to accept a nice guarantee.
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I'd love (as would most) to see the home schedule upgraded. Tennessee at home would be spectacular but that's not on the table here.

I'm a bit shocked at the indifference towards seeing BGSU serve as a lamb being led to the slaughter.
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I'm MORE shocked with people complaining about playing good teams. :rolleyes:
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mscarn wrote: I'm a bit shocked at the indifference towards seeing BGSU serve as a lamb being led to the slaughter.
As I recall, our last two games against SEC teams were by no means "slaughters." In 2012 we took Florida into the fourth quarter. Two close missed FGs cost us huge in that one. That Florida team went to the Sugar Bowl. In 2013, a dropped pass in the fourth quarter ended a potential game winning drive against Mississippi State. MSU got hot the rest of the season and the next year went to the Orange Bowl.
I'm not sure why you're so confident this game will be a slaughter. Especially considering our offensive talent. We can compete in this one, make no mistake. I just hope our team isn't of the same defeatist mindset as you.
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Yep... the program is one big Jena stack. Touch the wrong tiny little block and the whole thing just collapses.
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factman wrote:I'm MORE shocked with people complaining about playing good teams. :rolleyes:
ME too. Won't hear me complain one iota.

I'd line up and play OSU, Oregon, FSU, and Alabama to start the season if they'd have us. Screw this notion of having to schedule cake games or we'll get hurt or whatever BS. We spend half our time talking about how top MAC teams are just as good as the middle of the road BCS squads, and I agree we are. And those teams will play a conference schedule as tough or tougher than our 4 game stretch to start the season. If we're afraid of a schedule like this because we might get our feewings hurt or might suffer some injuries then we've got a helluva lot further to go to be relevant in this sport than I thought.

Line up the games, play good opponents, and figure out a way to beat them. And if you cannot beat them? Learn from it and make yourself a better team for it.
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Since basketball scheduling was brought up.....

Kingston also said Dayton paid BG, $100,000 for the game this past year.

Regarding the football schedule.....at this point it is what it is. The notion people are going to pull dollars or BG will be worse off as a program is ridiculous. I can see the argument that BG may be banged up going into conference play. But, last year, Matt Johnson and Colvin lost for the year vs WKU, DJ Lynch vs VMI. Guys can get injured / banged up playing anyone. Wisconsin maybe the most physical team in the country...did anyone get injured? The following week they bounced back and beat UMass after playing back to back Big10 teams.

If BG were to start the year, 2-2, 3-1 or somehow 4-0 the program and department would be counting their stacks of cash. If they start 0-4 or 1-3 they will still have all the same donors and all the same season ticket holders as they always have.

When the BG website went through the latest redesign they mentioned the highest trafficked day was when BG almost beat Florida. I would imagine that record would be eclipsed if the same thing happens vs Tennessee.
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mscarn wrote:I'm a bit shocked at the indifference towards seeing BGSU serve as a lamb being led to the slaughter.
Lamb? Slaughter? We aren't talking about Alabama or Baylor here. It's Tennessee. The Vols aren't that good.

This is a tougher schedule than usual, but such is life. I'm not that worried about it. It's possible we go 0-4, but I wouldn't rule out going 4-0. Think about it:

-- Purdue probably wouldn't win the MAC West.
-- Maryland is fine, I guess.
-- Memphis is good, but we get them at home.

Look what Northern Illinois did in 2003, sweeping Maryland, Iowa State, and Alabama. With the talent we have coming back? That could be us.

I don't see any lambs on our roster. This team is good. I'm not indifferent. I can't wait to get after it this fall and see what we have.
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Exactly ^
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mscarn wrote:I'm a bit shocked at the indifference towards seeing BGSU serve as a lamb being led to the slaughter.
Lamb? Slaughter? We aren't talking about Alabama or Baylor here. It's Tennessee. The Vols aren't that good.

This is a tougher schedule than usual, but such is life. I'm not that worried about it. It's possible we go 0-4, but I wouldn't rule out going 4-0. Think about it:

-- Purdue probably wouldn't win the MAC West.
-- Maryland is fine, I guess.
-- Memphis is good, but we get them at home.

Look what Northern Illinois did in 2003, sweeping Maryland, Iowa State, and Alabama. With the talent we have coming back? That could be us.

I don't see any lambs on our roster. This team is good. I'm not indifferent. I can't wait to get after it this fall and see what we have.
Agreed.

I'll go as far as saying this is one of my favorite OOC schedules I can remember for BG. I LOVE seeing us play the bigger conference schools, and love it even more when we beat them. And I think all of these teams are beatable. I don't think we'll win them all, but it's certainly within the realm of possibility.
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will Ronnie Moore have to sit the first half bc of the targeting call in the Bowl game?


btw, im new here. I have loved reading the board for a while
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Tennessee spent $110 million on athletics last year. Purdue spent $74 million, Maryland spent $63 million and Memphis spent $46 million. BG spent $20 million. You can extrapolate football-specific operating budgets and recruiting budgets on a similar scale. Anyone who considers it prudent for BG to be expected to compete against these schools back to back to back to back doesn't know the facts or is fooling themselves.

Also, if this type of schedule is so ideal then why doesn't anyone else in the league play one like it? Could it be because it's nuts?

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Jumping Jesus on a fu**ing pogo stick...it's a one year aberration. You're carping on and on about this like it's an entrenched scheduling philosphy. When I read your takes on this I hear the voice of Ben Stein

Yes, it's a challenging schedule, but it's not like we're playing the Justice League or the Avengers...we're playing some very beatable teams. This schedule gives us a chance to build a national rep...a national rep that might spawn a legion of Bill Fracks.
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I know I'm not alone here but my interest for BG football was spawned from us beating teams like Purdue, Northwestern, Kansas Mizzou etc. It also grew from losses to teams much more physical and talented than Tennessee like Ohio State and Oklahoma. It converted me from being a casual fan of BG football to one who has seem us play in 20 different stadiums now. Sorry but going 3-1 against sorry teams probably never would've done much for me.
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