Jacobs Draft hype

[mk455]

jacobs was listen among the top qb ratings on espn today... yayyy

[PGY Tiercel]

Here's a link to check out the list.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/statistic ... 4&group=80

[truth]

When i was a HS cb/wr i always prefered cover 3 (we ran a 4-4 d), so the olb's had the flats usually. then i could line up 7 off the ball and as long as communication was there btw us in the secondary there weren't problems. The times we ran cover 2 or man i preferred to be right up in the WR's junk so i could funnel him where i wanted him to go. playing man to man or cover 2 but playin soft in the corners is a sure fire way to get abused. cover 2 is helps slower corners who are strong. the safeties have deep halves usually, so playing tight and forcing the reciever inside is an absolute must as the corner.

What confuses/frustrates me here is we play too soft in the secondary. line up 5-7 off for cover 2 and man to man and you're going to be hung out to dry because the reciever can choose which way they release and find a nice soft spot 12-18 yds down fieldnear the sideline.(or in man to man make a double move) 5-7 yds off also invites the screen because it's easier to block a late arriving db. If the coaches would put the corners up closer they would be all over the screen. instead of letting it develope, they could disrupt it.

tightening up the corners also allows for the added element of suprise cb blitzes that take little time to develope, and then faking the blitz to cause a hot route audible, which prompts feasting on the qb's misreading. With this said i think it's important to disguise coverages, so sometimes playing a cover 2 5-7 yds off is wise, but not every stinkin play....

ANother problem i see in our pass d is the fact that TE's and recievers never get touched when they cross an Lb's face. When someone crosses the middle they should never cross your face without you rerouting them somewhat. at least stand in their way or something. but letting them run unrestricted doesn't cut it.

I could go on and on, but the bottom line is if there is safety help, let the corners play aggressive instead of reacting from 7 yds away. reaction = slower than action = losing ability to cover.

[Falcon30]

Here's a link to check out the list.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/statistic ... 4&group=80

look at the top four - who would you rather have

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Passing Statistics
 	NAME	CMP	ATT	YDS	CMP%	YDS/A	TD	INT	SACK	RAT
1.	QB 1	189	257	2596	73.5	10.10	20	3	9	181.7
2.	QB 2	214	317	2952	67.5	9.31	32	4	18	176.5
3.	QB 3	188	270	2700	69.6	10.00	20	7	13	172.9
4.	QB 4	309	462	4002	66.9	8.66	41	4	10	167.2

Now I would pick the QB with 1000 more yards and 9-21 more TDS, wouldn't you? Why is The 4th QB's rating 13.5 lower than QB#1???????? Does anyone know what stats are used in determining QB rating?

Just looking at those stats, I would rank them QB #4, #2, #1 and #3, IMHO

Here is the list unedited - why the heck is Omar so low?

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Passing Statistics
 	NAME	                         CMP	ATT	YDS	CMP%	YDS/A	TD	INT	SACK	RAT
1.	Stefan LeFors, Louisville  	189	257	2596	73.5	10.10	20	3	9	181.7
2.	Alex Smith, Utah	           214	317	2952	67.5	9.31	32	4	18	176.5
3.	Jason Campbell, Auburn 	    188	270	2700	69.6	10.00	20	7	13	172.9
4.	Omar Jacobs, BGU	           309	462	4002	66.9	8.66	41	4	10	167.2
5.	Bruce Gradkowski, Toledo	   280	399	3518	70.2	8.82	27	8	14	162.6
6.	Jason White, Oklahoma      	255	390	3205	65.4	8.22	35	9	9	159.4
7.	Matt Leinart, USC	          269	412	3322	65.3	8.06	33	6	24	156.5
8.	Aaron Rodgers, California	  209	316	2566	66.1	8.12	24	8	25	154.3
9.	Lester Ricard, Tulane	      143	231	1881	61.9	8.14	21	9	13	152.5
10.	Kyle Orton, Purdue	        236	389	3090	60.7	7.94	31	5	22	151.1

For example - He has double the TDs of LeFors, 1400+ more yards, 120 more completions. In the categories he isn't winning, he is slightly behind; he has one more sack, one more INT, a 6.5% lower completion pct and 1.44 yards less per completion.

wtf.

[Warthog]

Apparently yards per attempt and completion % are more heavily weighted than the others. I agree with you though. TDs, yards, and Ints tell me if a QB is performing well or not and no one was better than Omar when you look at those three categories.

[UK Peregrine]

A lot of NCAA QB rating has to do with completion percentage and yards per attempt. Omar is last for these two categories of the four players, hence he QB rating is slightly lower.

You can actually figure out NCAA, NFL and AFL QB ratings at this site:
http://www.primecomputing.com/javaqbr.htm

[hammb]

I'll tell you why he isn't leading. It's one stat that jumps right out at you if you look at it, but you probably glossed over it:

ATTEMPTS. Omar had 452, the others all had FAR fewer.

In the formula for QB rating all the stats are at some point divided by the number of attempts. So, essentially, you're looking at completion % (completions per attempt), Interception % (INTs per attempt), TD % (TDs per attempt), and Yards per attempt. I don't have the exact formula for the colleges anywhere, but that is the basis for why he is a little lower.

His yards per attempt is what is really bringing down his rating in comparison to the others you listed. We throw so many short balls that his yp/a is bound to be lower than your QBs who get to thrown downfield more often.

As for who I'd rather have, that's easy. I'll take #2 and be undefeated please

[Flipper]

Who's going to be selling real estate or insurance first, Lefors or Aaron Rogers?

[Warthog]

As for who I'd rather have, that's easy. I'll take #2 and be undefeated please

How about # 7, being undefeated, heisman trophy winner, and national champion? 8)

[UK Peregrine]

As for who I'd rather have, that's easy. I'll take #2 and be undefeated please

How about # 7, being undefeated, heisman trophy winner, and national champion? 8)

I'd take #4 since he can still play two more years for you. #2 went pro and #7 should have gone pro.

[momtartin]

I'm split on the idea of whether Leinhart should have gone pro. On the one hand, I want to see USC fail, but at the same time, I think him stealing some fire from Omar might give Omar an extra reason to put it up another notch.

[hammb]

I thought at the time that Leinart should've went pro. However, in the fine print of your sports section you may have noticed that he had offseason shoulder surgery recently. That DEFINITELY would've had an effect on his draft stock!

Besides I'd still take #2 because he isn't left handed

[BGDrew]

Leinart won't have Chow next year though.