factman wrote:I think Babers has to prove himself yet, as he is still winning with Clawson recruits. He has to prove he can recruit, and he is a west coast guy, not an east coast guy.
The days of schools waiting five years for a coach to win with their guys are looong gone. Babers has done a good job of working Clawson's guys into his system while snagging some quality recruits. Being able to win with what you have on hand is a pretty attractive skill.
+1.
If anything, schools are looking for coaches who can bring an immediate impact and not be subjected to the 2-3 year window of futility until said coach can establish his recruits.
I would say that applies to certain jobs. I would hope Purdue and Rutgers fans wouldn't expect a coach to turn those teams into a bowl team in 1 year, they are 2nd level MAC schools in terms of talent.
Florida this year for example was loaded with good recruits, you see the immediate impact a good coach can have. USC will have one of if not the best roster in the country next year, a good coach could make and win the playoff next year with them.
Of course you have to be able to recruit... the thing of it is is nobody waits five years for a candidate to prove they can recruit. Babers
kept Clawson's talent (did anybody really good xfer after Clawson left?) and he snagged some recruits of his own and then followed that with some headline grabbing xfers and a decent looking class last year. There might be some questions around Babers regarding the penalties and seeming lack of focus on defense that first year, but I think he's shown enough on the talent relations side to warrant a look at a P5 gig at a school that wants some excitement.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
Flipper wrote:That "active in the community, loves it here, never wants to leave' stuff never really matters in the end.
In the arena of college football, an up and coming coach needs to be a world class fibber to secure the millions for the family in the future. It's all part of the act.
Flipper wrote:That "active in the community, loves it here, never wants to leave' stuff never really matters in the end.
In the arena of college football, an up and coming coach needs to be a world class fibber to secure the millions for the family in the future. It's all part of the act.
Much like a politician, say the things that will endear you to your constituents but in actuality you really don't care a whole lot about them.
Yeah...there's some truth to that. Fitty-fo might be seen as too long in the tooth for a larger P5 school to hire a guy with a relatively scant HC record. In that respect, we could really luck out. Babers might stay here a few years longer and then Blackney it and down throttle the last few years as an assistant somewhere.
Or he could say..."I need a quick few million to set up my retirement"and take the million plus offer that comes along...even if it's someplace with a checkered history like SMU or Colorado State where he's likely to fail.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
Flipper wrote:Yeah...there's some truth to that. Fitty-fo might be seen as too long in the tooth for a larger P5 school to hire a guy with a relatively scant HC record. In that respect, we could really luck out. Babers might stay here a few years longer and then Blackney it and down throttle the last few years as an assistant somewhere.
Or he could say..."I need a quick few million to set up my retirement"and take the million plus offer that comes along...even if it's someplace with a checkered history like SMU or Colorado State where he's likely to fail.
Interesting question. He's never inherited a bad team and at 54, I do wonder how an AD views him if that school is in for a rebuild. He walked into 2 pretty good gigs at EIU and BG.
I'd like to pick Turner Gill's brain. He was terrible at Kansas but made a kings ransom and is again a head coach. Wonder if he would do the same thing if given another chance.
Flipper wrote:Yeah...there's some truth to that. Fitty-fo might be seen as too long in the tooth for a larger P5 school to hire a guy with a relatively scant HC record. In that respect, we could really luck out. Babers might stay here a few years longer and then Blackney it and down throttle the last few years as an assistant somewhere.
Or he could say..."I need a quick few million to set up my retirement"and take the million plus offer that comes along...even if it's someplace with a checkered history like SMU or Colorado State where he's likely to fail.
Interesting question. He's never inherited a bad team and at 54, I do wonder how an AD views him if that school is in for a rebuild. He walked into 2 pretty good gigs at EIU and BG.
I'd like to pick Turner Gill's brain. He was terrible at Kansas but made a kings ransom and is again a head coach. Wonder if he would do the same thing if given another chance.
I'm guessing Maryland's AD is looking to hire a big name, not a second-year guy at Bowling Green. Not saying Babers wouldn't do a good job, I just think he (Anderson) feels the need to make a big splash with this hire.
With so many jobs open already, and others destined to come open, someone's gonna make Babers an offer, or at least give him a serious look (and yes I prefer to look ahead to when our current coach is gone, rather than to simply enjoy the success we're having right now) .
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gmartin wrote:Lots of tweets over the past 24 hours that Babers next step will be Maryland. Grrrr
I'm really opposed to rumors and changes after the season and before the bowl games. Now we may have these rumors to deal with for over half of a season!!
CAN WE PLEASE FINISH THIS SEASON BEFORE WE TALK ABOUT NEXT YEAR!!! CLOSE THIS THREAD. POINTLESS.
kdog27 wrote:Perhaps I'm off here, but why would a big name coach go to Maryland?
I agree - not sure a big name coach would want to go there, but I feel like their AD wants/needs to hire such a person, perhaps to save his own job. I could see them going after a big name former coach, maybe someone in television like Tony Dungy or Lee Corso (OK, maybe not Lee Corso). Obviously, a big name coach who currently has a job is probably not going to Md unless they can throw a lot more money at him.
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kdog27 wrote:Perhaps I'm off here, but why would a big name coach go to Maryland?
Lots of resources, AD has made it known they want to commit to football and re-establish their program. Their hoops program is going to be one of the best in the country this season so they have plenty of avenues for support. Plus, I'm sure the school would like to challenge O$U and Michigan State for the upper echelon of the B1G rather than being being relegated to the bottom 1/3 of the conference.
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