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Over on MGoBlog they're saying DJ Durkin is going to Maryland.
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Does anyone believe that nonsense any more? Right Matt... you haven't talked to anyone. Your agent.... on the other hand....
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MarkL wrote:Unbelievable how many coaching changes there could be this year. So far there are 19 programs changing coaches, or 14.8% of FBS. If some dominoes fall like last year (Nebraska hired OrSt's coach who hired Wisconsin's coach who hired Pitt's coach), we may see 20% or maybe even more of all programs have a new head coach next year.
We have been talking about this for days. It's actually at 20. it was a total of 14 last year.

Georgia Mark Richt
Hawaii Norm Chow
Ilinois Tim Beckman
Iowa St Paul Rhoads
La Monroe Todd Berry
Maryland Randy Edsall
Memphis Justin Fuente
Miami Al Golden
Minnesota Jerry Kill
Missouri Gary Pinkel
North Texas Dan McCarney
Rutgers Kyle Flood
S Carolina Steve Spurrier
Syracuse Scott Shafer
Toledo Matt Campbell
Tulane Curtis Johnson
UCF George O'Leary
USC Steve Sarkisian
Va Tech Frank Beamer
Virginia Mike London
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What a rotten spot these schools put the coaches in. Hiring during the season so coaches must either be honest admitting that they are spending their spare moments in talks with an agent about future positions or they can lie saying they are thinking about nothing but preparing their current team. The NCAA could end this by not allowing schools to speak with agents until the championship game ends but,..... that's not what the POWER 5 wants so it will never happen.

I don't hate these coaches for taking a position with better pay knowing that they are likely to be fired at any moment the right booster has an ax to grind or some event happens within the program that puts them on the firing line. I just wish they would be able to finish the season. How close are we to stealing a Matt Campbell immediately after the Big 5 school fires their coach in week 5 leaving a MAC school without a head coach the rest of the season?
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FalconTurf wrote:What a rotten spot these schools put the coaches in. Hiring during the season so coaches must either be honest admitting that they are spending their spare moments in talks with an agent about future positions or they can lie saying they are thinking about nothing but preparing their current team. The NCAA could end this by not allowing schools to speak with agents until the championship game ends but,..... that's not what the POWER 5 wants so it will never happen.

I don't hate these coaches for taking a position with better pay knowing that they are likely to be fired at any moment the right booster has an ax to grind or some event happens within the program that puts them on the firing line. I just wish they would be able to finish the season. How close are we to stealing a Matt Campbell immediately after the Big 5 school fires their coach in week 5 leaving a MAC school without a head coach the rest of the season?
You're damned right it's totally horseshit.

In the NFL you are not allowed to interview coaches on teams that still have games to play, with the lone exception being a first wave of interviews allowed for SB bound coaches in the bye week between the conference championship games and the superbowl.

I'll actually take you one step further. I don't think they should be allowed to be interviewing these guys until after BOWL games. I don't care that it screws you over for recruiting. That's something you should think about before firing your coach every 3 years because you're Illinois and think you should be Ohio State.

You're also 1000% right that it will never happen because the teams that this hurts are the MAC level schools that have no say in the way the corrupt sport is run.

I don't in any way shape or form hold ANYTHING against these coaches. They are only doing the best they can in a screwed up system. There is no right answer they can give in these scenarios. Just chalk this up as another reason why college football is the biggest farce in all of sports. Nothing more than a way to kill time before real football on Sundays anymore.
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hammb wrote:
FalconTurf wrote:What a rotten spot these schools put the coaches in. Hiring during the season so coaches must either be honest admitting that they are spending their spare moments in talks with an agent about future positions or they can lie saying they are thinking about nothing but preparing their current team. The NCAA could end this by not allowing schools to speak with agents until the championship game ends but,..... that's not what the POWER 5 wants so it will never happen.

I don't hate these coaches for taking a position with better pay knowing that they are likely to be fired at any moment the right booster has an ax to grind or some event happens within the program that puts them on the firing line. I just wish they would be able to finish the season. How close are we to stealing a Matt Campbell immediately after the Big 5 school fires their coach in week 5 leaving a MAC school without a head coach the rest of the season?
You're damned right it's totally horseshit.

In the NFL you are not allowed to interview coaches on teams that still have games to play, with the lone exception being a first wave of interviews allowed for SB bound coaches in the bye week between the conference championship games and the superbowl.

I'll actually take you one step further. I don't think they should be allowed to be interviewing these guys until after BOWL games. I don't care that it screws you over for recruiting. That's something you should think about before firing your coach every 3 years because you're Illinois and think you should be Ohio State.

You're also 1000% right that it will never happen because the teams that this hurts are the MAC level schools that have no say in the way the corrupt sport is run.

I don't in any way shape or form hold ANYTHING against these coaches. They are only doing the best they can in a screwed up system. There is no right answer they can give in these scenarios. Just chalk this up as another reason why college football is the biggest farce in all of sports. Nothing more than a way to kill time before real football on Sundays anymore.
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NFL doesn't have recruiting like the NCAA. It behooves these schools to get their guy when they can get him. Would it be better to have Babers here for the title game? Of course... but that's not how it works these days. Realistically... did anyone think he'd be our HC for our bowl game?
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Flipper wrote:Does anyone believe that nonsense any more? Right Matt... you haven't talked to anyone. Your agent.... on the other hand....
Lots of naïve recruits and their parents may…takes them a while to catch on to the big picture.
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Well, I wonder how soon and how many decommits we will see. Nothing against babers going but redshirts and commits are his and his style of play. Don't want to happen here as it did with our basketball team.
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Imagine if our Falcons would have run the table going into the MACC with a shot at a New Year's Day bowl game. The greatest season in Falcon history ending with an interm coach and a distracted staff looking at new jobs, new houses and leaving the team with little chance to match up against their toughest opponent of the year. It becomes tougher to be a college football fan.

With the impatient Power 5 schools firing coaches quicker than ever in mid-season this probably only gets worse unless some action is taken by college presidents and athletic directors. Either they do something soon or this may be the death of many programs as fans lose interest after watching great seasons collapse just before conference championship games and bowl games.
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Tech2000 wrote:Well, I wonder how soon and how many decommits we will see. Nothing against babers going but redshirts and commits are his and his style of play. Don't want to happen here as it did with our basketball team.
What happened with the basketball team?

Verbal commits may bail.... it depends on who the next coach is. Existing players are much less likely to leave and sit out a year.
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zete wrote:
Flipper wrote:Does anyone believe that nonsense any more? Right Matt... you haven't talked to anyone. Your agent.... on the other hand....
Lots of naïve recruits and their parents may…takes them a while to catch on to the big picture.
I think you're drastically underestimating the cynicism and worldliness of today's youths....
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FalconTurf wrote:Imagine if our Falcons would have run the table going into the MACC with a shot at a New Year's Day bowl game. The greatest season in Falcon history ending with an interm coach and a distracted staff looking at new jobs, new houses and leaving the team with little chance to match up against their toughest opponent of the year. It becomes tougher to be a college football fan.

With the impatient Power 5 schools firing coaches quicker than ever in mid-season this probably only gets worse unless some action is taken by college presidents and athletic directors. Either they do something soon or this may be the death of many programs as fans lose interest after watching great seasons collapse just before conference championship games and bowl games.
Thus confirming that the mid-majors will simply be regarded as a breeding ground for coaches to hack it at the FBS level before they get higher profile jobs and high-tail it out of town. I agree that there needs to be rules in place for this stuff as it puts schools with departing coaches at a severe disadvantage.
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Flipper wrote:
zete wrote:
Flipper wrote:Does anyone believe that nonsense any more? Right Matt... you haven't talked to anyone. Your agent.... on the other hand....
Lots of naïve recruits and their parents may…takes them a while to catch on to the big picture.
I think you're drastically underestimating the cynicism and worldliness of today's youths....
You are probably right.
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