Babers NOT to UCF

[Furious_Falcon]

Dang, good on you, Dino. Sorry we doubted you.

[Falcon137]

Wow. Wow.

Many of you saw the clip from yesterday's news conference where Babers said: "I have lost jobs where I told them that I will play in the MAC championship game."

I was wondering about that last night. Did he mean Iowa State?

Maybe the job he lost was Central Florida.

He's a good man, and we are lucky to have him.

Definitely. Mad props.

I still doubt we get to hold onto him much longer, but I hope we do. People have been bitching since the moment he walked in the door, but he's the best coach we've had here since Urban, IMO, and he has accomplished more than Urb did.

I don't know...the only other jobs that would consider him would be Virginia and Syracuse, IMO. Every other P5 school is going to want to have a coach with experience at that level because the stakes are so high now. I would not be shocked if he lost the UCF job because of the MACC, but Scott Frost was a much better candidate than Dino was anyways so who knows. Nice blunder for those who reported this was a done deal as well, I'd fire someone who being this reckless about their journalistic integrity.

Not sure Frost was a "much better candidate" or that he isn't in the running for S. Carolina or Missouri.

[Furious_Falcon]

Question for you all. Because I honestly can't seem to come up with an answer. If a non-bowl bound team, such as UCF were to reach an agreement with Dino (verbally), why would they care if he coached 1 more week through the MACC?

Is it because their afraid that he might back out of his agreement, say because something "better" comes along.

Is it for recruiting purposes? I thought that this was one of those quiet times.

I understand those reasons, but that 1 week doesnt seem like enough time to make a difference.

I don't believe there was ever an agreement, someone decided to throw something at the wall and hope it stuck. Frost had been mentioned heavily for the Syracuse job and him taking this job came as a surprise to many.

As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I think Babers' best bets are now Syracuse and Virginia and who knows if he'll be interested in those gigs. Those programs certainly have a limited ceiling to them and I'd put UCF ahead of them both in terms of likelihood of success.

Yeah, that'd be my thought as well. There probably wasn't any agreement. My guess is that someone knew both that a) Dino had interviewed at UCF and b) UCF had decided who they were hiring. They put two and two together and leaked the story, just turns out they were wrong about who was getting the job.

I don't think Babers saying "I've lost jobs because I want to coach in the MACCG" is as literal as "they made an offer contingent on me not coaching in the MACCG". He probably just means he knows he's a less attractive candidate because he has a post-season; a lot of these teams want to nail down someone ASAP. But who knows, maybe he did literally lose jobs because of that. Either way, he's currently the head coach at BGSU and nowhere else, and for that I'm thankful.

[Redwingtom]

I am willing to admit when I'm wrong . . . Coach Babers, my apologies to you. Thank you for seeing this through to Friday.

Come Sat AM, all bets are off, there's still a lot of attractive jobs out there, but as I told Brian . . . if you win in the Shoe vs a DEPLETED MASS exodus of Buckeyes . . . Then you call your own shot next year.

Sometimes, it pays off to bet on yourself!

Ummm...yeah...about that...

[zete]

If he is interviewing, he is interested in leaving.

[jpfalcon09]

If he is interviewing, he is interested in leaving.

Not necessarily. I've taken job interviews while being perfectly content and happy with my current job. Any professional should take the opportunity to learn more about other places and to see what's out there but it doesn't mean he's looking to bolt. He seems like a smart man who is going to do what's best for his career and family, but that doesn't mean he'll jump on the first opportunity that comes his way.

FWIW, the UCF chatter seems to be that Babers was a viable candidate but he's holding out for a P5 job.

With Rhule no longer being mentioned at Missouri, I wonder if they take a hard look at Babers now considering the issues they've had going on there. He would be a respected person to have lead their football program considering the racial tensions.

[Flipper]

Exactly... if you don't keep yourself in circulation you won't know truly know your value.

How f**ked up is the world of college football... the man gets up and tells the truth and he's looked upon as an exception.

Much respect for Dino Babers... glad to have him for as long as we have him.

[HoopsFan]

Even though I don't attend football or hockey games, I did go to the Coaches Caravan last spring and Dino was flat-out funny. I love his honesty and his sense of humor.

I'd love to see him coach another year, especially with tOSU on the sked, but it is what it is.

HoopsFan

[MarkL]

With Rhule no longer being mentioned at Missouri, I wonder if they take a hard look at Babers now considering the issues they've had going on there. He would be a respected person to have lead their football program considering the racial tensions.

I've been thinking the same since the Mizzou job opened but I didn't want to be the first to bring it up. I had a feeling early that Babers is exactly the type of coach Mizzou would love. He runs a wide open spread like Pinkel, he has experience in Mizzou recruiting territory (Midwest and Texas), and a successful career.
As for the hot button issue, I cannot think of him ever discussing his race in a press conference as I just don't see that being something he cares to discuss. But what he says to players confronting race-based issues is anybody's guess. I'm willing to bet he is a powerful mentor to young people facing adversity.

[HoopsFan]

HIJACK MODE=ON

Not going to go there, but the Mizzou thing was based on a LIE. It would have been appropriate for the president to tell the students that they are suspended for a week or dismissed if they continued to protest. I couldn't think of doing that to BG's president. The hunger strike kid was well
"trained." Too bad he doesn't try that in Chicago.

HIJACK MODE=OFF
HoopsFan

[CBD2032]

Question for you all. Because I honestly can't seem to come up with an answer. If a non-bowl bound team, such as UCF were to reach an agreement with Dino (verbally), why would they care if he coached 1 more week through the MACC?

Is it because their afraid that he might back out of his agreement, say because something "better" comes along.

Is it for recruiting purposes? I thought that this was one of those quiet times.

I understand those reasons, but that 1 week doesnt seem like enough time to make a difference.

I don't believe there was ever an agreement, someone decided to throw something at the wall and hope it stuck. Frost had been mentioned heavily for the Syracuse job and him taking this job came as a surprise to many.

As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I think Babers' best bets are now Syracuse and Virginia and who knows if he'll be interested in those gigs. Those programs certainly have a limited ceiling to them and I'd put UCF ahead of them both in terms of likelihood of success.

OK, maybe I shouldn't have used UCF as the example team. He said he has lost jobs because he wants to coach the MACC. Why would those teams back off for him wanting to coach that game. Did I really work word that poorly, seems like a pretty straight up question with a hypothetic, yet relevant, team used.

[jpfalcon09]

Question for you all. Because I honestly can't seem to come up with an answer. If a non-bowl bound team, such as UCF were to reach an agreement with Dino (verbally), why would they care if he coached 1 more week through the MACC?

Is it because their afraid that he might back out of his agreement, say because something "better" comes along.

Is it for recruiting purposes? I thought that this was one of those quiet times.

I understand those reasons, but that 1 week doesnt seem like enough time to make a difference.

I don't believe there was ever an agreement, someone decided to throw something at the wall and hope it stuck. Frost had been mentioned heavily for the Syracuse job and him taking this job came as a surprise to many.

As I mentioned in an earlier thread, I think Babers' best bets are now Syracuse and Virginia and who knows if he'll be interested in those gigs. Those programs certainly have a limited ceiling to them and I'd put UCF ahead of them both in terms of likelihood of success.

OK, maybe I shouldn't have used UCF as the example team. He said he has lost jobs because he wants to coach the MACC. Why would those teams back off for him wanting to coach that game. Did I really work word that poorly, seems like a pretty straight up question with a hypothetic, yet relevant, team used.

No, he did mention it, but he also coached in the game last year so we don't know what he was specifically talking about it. He could have easily been speaking about an OC position with a P5 school or NFL team.

Teams would back off because it's a rat race to fill your position to satisfy recruiting classes and getting some sort of normalcy in place for the returning players. I meant no disrespect in my original reply...