Mingo leaving team

[BGDrew]

Shouldn't come as too big of a shock but Dajon Mingo has left the team to take a run at a pro career.

http://www.bgsuhockey.com/2015/12/mingo ... n-program/" target="_blank

[jpfalcon09]

Good luck to him, hopefully he will be able to finish his degree after working so hard to get his grades up with the eligibility issues he had. That said, the ECHL salaries aren't much better than any normal 9-5 job out there so hopefully he's making the right decision.

[apollo]

That's too bad...we're already short handed on defense...especially with that killer second half schedule...I mean by the time we play Huntsville again I'm sure their Pairwise ranking will be up to 8th or 9th in the country. Plus once these Ivy League teams get 2 or 3 more games under their belt I'm sure our Strength of Schedule will move up to top 10...by the time the regular season is over we'll probably have the toughest schedule in college hockey....without Mingo, I'm not sure how the team will handle it?

[toddpav]

That's too bad...we're already short handed on defense...especially with that killer second half schedule...I mean by the time we play Huntsville again I'm sure their Pairwise ranking will be up to 8th or 9th in the country. Plus once these Ivy League teams get 2 or 3 more games under their belt I'm sure our Strength of Schedule will move up to top 10...by the time the regular season is over we'll probably have the toughest schedule in college hockey....without Mingo, I'm not sure how the team will handle it?

Off topic: LOL. Are you that upset people didn't agree with what you said in your pairwise thread? Sounds like it. Although the above post was funny, so thanks!

On topic: It's tough seeing Dajon leave after Coach B. gave him plenty of chances to succeed, both on and off the ice. Dajon is a great kid with some good talent. He was always nice to me and the other media folks, and went out of his way to say hi when we were on the road.

Just an unfortunate situation for both sides.

[apollo]

Off topic: LOL. Are you that upset people didn't agree with what you said in your pairwise thread? Sounds like it. Although the above post was funny, so thanks.

No I wasn't upset....people just lack perspective on how BGSU stacks up with the rest of he country. Its not reality....we beat lousy teams. Whenever anyone brings that fact up, the default "Big 10 conference sucks we'd beat them too" argument comes out.
Truth is for every three four series we play in conference, we may see one team that is in the top 30 in the country. It was that way last year too, but the WCHA had some early non-conference wins and people fool themselves into thinking that the WCHA is a top conference. It's wasn't last year and it's not this year.

[threestooges]

Off topic: LOL. Are you that upset people didn't agree with what you said in your pairwise thread? Sounds like it. Although the above post was funny, so thanks.

No I wasn't upset....people just lack perspective on how BGSU stacks up with the rest of he country. Its not reality....we beat lousy teams. Whenever anyone brings that fact up, the default "Big 10 conference sucks we'd beat them too" argument comes out.
Truth is for every three four series we play in conference, we may see one team that is in the top 30 in the country. It was that way last year too, but the WCHA had some early non-conference wins and people fool themselves into thinking that the WCHA is a top conference. It's wasn't last year and it's not this year.

I don't know if the WCHA is a top conference, & frankly, I don't really care. I'm just happy that BG is winning. For the better part of the last two decades, BGSU has NOT beaten lousy teams on a consistent basis, so I'm just gonna sit back & enjoy the fact that the program continues to get better & better under Bergeron. If we don't win the WCHA Tournament & still get an at-large bid to the NCAAs, great. If we don't and we don't, we'll know we need to schedule a few more top opponents out of conference (if they're willing to schedule us).

[BGDrew]

Mingo has signed with the Toledo Walleye, He signed a standard contract, not a PTO.

[gmartin]

Pairwise rankings before February mean nothing. It's just like ranking college football for the first 8 weeks, really means nothing. I would prefer that all sports don't begin ranking teams until the second half of the season. Let it be a 'mystery'. I think teams may try harder if they are unsure of where they may rank.

[poltergeist]

hope Mingo is getting that diploma, and best wishes to him.

I don't know if the WCHA is a top conference, & frankly, I don't really care. I'm just happy that BG is winning. For the better part of the last two decades, BGSU has NOT beaten lousy teams on a consistent basis, so I'm just gonna sit back & enjoy the fact that the program continues to get better & better under Bergeron. If we don't win the WCHA Tournament & still get an at-large bid to the NCAAs, great. If we don't and we don't, we'll know we need to schedule a few more top opponents out of conference (if they're willing to schedule us).

thumbs up, stooges.
The WCHA isn't a "top conference" (who said it was?), but it's where we are. Like you, I don't much care.
just win baby, and the rest will sort itself out. around February.

re the OOC schedule, my understanding is that coach wants to keep on playing OSU, Miami State, and Western every year. works for me, but it doesn't leave a lot of room for scheduling top teams. most years, Miami and Western will help our RPI--this year, maybe not so much. OSU, maybe never.
If the Weasels wise up and drop the 2-for-1 scheduling crap, that'd be a nice test.
so short of bailing on the WCHA, that doesn't give us a lot of control over SOS--and it ain't worth angst-ing about.

[jpfalcon09]

hope Mingo is getting that diploma, and best wishes to him.

I don't know if the WCHA is a top conference, & frankly, I don't really care. I'm just happy that BG is winning. For the better part of the last two decades, BGSU has NOT beaten lousy teams on a consistent basis, so I'm just gonna sit back & enjoy the fact that the program continues to get better & better under Bergeron. If we don't win the WCHA Tournament & still get an at-large bid to the NCAAs, great. If we don't and we don't, we'll know we need to schedule a few more top opponents out of conference (if they're willing to schedule us).

thumbs up, stooges.
The WCHA isn't a "top conference" (who said it was?), but it's where we are. Like you, I don't much care.
just win baby, and the rest will sort itself out. around February.

re the OOC schedule, my understanding is that coach wants to keep on playing OSU, Miami State, and Western every year. works for me, but it doesn't leave a lot of room for scheduling top teams. most years, Miami and Western will help our RPI--this year, maybe not so much. OSU, maybe never.
If the Weasels wise up and drop the 2-for-1 scheduling crap, that'd be a nice test.
so short of bailing on the WCHA, that doesn't give us a lot of control over SOS--and it ain't worth angst-ing about.

I think it's a down year for the WCHA as a whole. Last year the conference was very competitive in the top third of the standings until Tech and MN State crapped the bed in the NCAA tourney. But yes, the conference as a whole usually is rather weak, much of that has to do with the size of the member schools and who they have to recruit against.

Miami has been a good program the past ten years and they're having some trouble this year in Oxford. I think they're a prime example of getting out-recruited and out-resourced in the NCHC by having to go against bigger hockey schools with larger dragnets. Western has been better with Andy Murray at the helm but they have the same problems in trying to recruit against ND, MSU and Michigan. There's only so many good players who wish to go to college instead of playing in juniors.

I don't think anyone thinks BG is God's gift to hockey, but the program is back to national relevancy and that counts for something. There may be only one WCHA team in the tourney this year, so BG needs to be focused on winning the top seed and getting the best matchup for the conference tournament. But, if they beat the teams they should beat and get a little help, they'll be in good shape for an at-large bid as well.

[apollo]

I don't know if the WCHA is a top conference, & frankly, I don't really care. I'm just happy that BG is winning. For the better part of the last two decades, BGSU has NOT beaten lousy teams on a consistent basis, so I'm just gonna sit back & enjoy the fact that the program continues to get better & better under Bergeron. If we don't win the WCHA Tournament & still get an at-large bid to the NCAAs, great. If we don't and we don't, we'll know we need to schedule a few more top opponents out of conference (if they're willing to schedule us).

thumbs up, stooges.
The WCHA isn't a "top conference" (who said it was?), but it's where we are. Like you, I don't much care.
just win baby, and the rest will sort itself out. around February.

re the OOC schedule, my understanding is that coach wants to keep on playing OSU, Miami State, and Western every year. works for me, but it doesn't leave a lot of room for scheduling top teams. most years, Miami and Western will help our RPI--this year, maybe not so much. OSU, maybe never.
If the Weasels wise up and drop the 2-for-1 scheduling crap, that'd be a nice test.
so short of bailing on the WCHA, that doesn't give us a lot of control over SOS--and it ain't worth angst-ing about.

I agree that it's good we are beating bad teams instead of losing to them....just don't get delusional.

Rumor has it that Hockey East, NCHC, and Big 10 schools are pushing to go back to the old computer rankings that punish teams for playing weak schedules. Most DI sports your RPI takes a hit if you play a low ranked team...hockey changed their formula a few years ago. Teams only get punished now for losing to bad teams. If you win it doesn't really hurt you for playing them. After the WCHA almost got 3 teams in last year, other schools started looking at possibly going back to the old formula. It would hurt us playing Huntsville 4 times per year to go along with anyone else in the low 40s and 50s in RPI. If it changes, the WCHA will be locked into a one bid league similar Atlantic Hockey, unless you see more aggressive non conference scheduling.

[BGFan]

Off topic: LOL. Are you that upset people didn't agree with what you said in your pairwise thread? Sounds like it. Although the above post was funny, so thanks.

No I wasn't upset....people just lack perspective on how BGSU stacks up with the rest of he country. Its not reality....we beat lousy teams. Whenever anyone brings that fact up, the default "Big 10 conference sucks we'd beat them too" argument comes out.
Truth is for every three four series we play in conference, we may see one team that is in the top 30 in the country. It was that way last year too, but the WCHA had some early non-conference wins and people fool themselves into thinking that the WCHA is a top conference. It's wasn't last year and it's not this year.

I don't know if the WCHA is a top conference, & frankly, I don't really care. I'm just happy that BG is winning. For the better part of the last two decades, BGSU has NOT beaten lousy teams on a consistent basis, so I'm just gonna sit back & enjoy the fact that the program continues to get better & better under Bergeron. If we don't win the WCHA Tournament & still get an at-large bid to the NCAAs, great. If we don't and we don't, we'll know we need to schedule a few more top opponents out of conference (if they're willing to schedule us).

Schedules are made out a couple of years in advance. Who would have thought that Miami and WMU would be down this year when we scheduled them? On top of that, teams like Notre Dame, UM, and MSU want 2 for 1 deal which is why we won't schedule them. FWIW, I agree with that philosophy. This isn't football where we will never get them in our place, it's hockey where we should be considered to be on equal footing with them. If they don't agree, screw 'em.

[footballguy51]

If beating bad teams doesn't hurt your RPI, then why aren't these "elite" teams scheduling against the WCHA? If we're so bad, they should be able to beat us no problem and their RPI wouldn't be affected by it. The truth is, those "elite" teams don't want to schedule against us because they know we're just as good if not better than them. Settling it on the ice would only prove that fact.

[Schadenfreude]

If beating bad teams doesn't hurt your RPI, then why aren't these "elite" teams scheduling against the WCHA? If we're so bad, they should be able to beat us no problem and their RPI wouldn't be affected by it. The truth is, those "elite" teams don't want to schedule against us because they know we're just as good if not better than them. Settling it on the ice would only prove that fact.

Is that the only reason, or is gate revenue a factor? Yost has 6,600 seats, which isn't that much bigger than our madhouse, but perhaps they are also generating more revenue per ticket?

Just thinking out loud here.

[apollo]

If beating bad teams doesn't hurt your RPI, then why aren't these "elite" teams scheduling against the WCHA? If we're so bad, they should be able to beat us no problem and their RPI wouldn't be affected by it. The truth is, those "elite" teams don't want to schedule against us because they know we're just as good if not better than them. Settling it on the ice would only prove that fact.

On top of that, teams like Notre Dame, UM, and MSU want 2 for 1 deal which is why we won't schedule them. FWIW, I agree with that philosophy. This isn't football where we will never get them in our place, it's hockey where we should be considered to be on equal footing with them. If they don't agree, screw 'em.

There it is....there's the delusion of BG Hockey fans.

You bring up rational points and here's what you get.


1. Talk about the Strength of Schedule....the reply is Pairwise and SOS mean nothing in December.

2. Talk about the lack of scoring....you get the goaltending in the WCHA is the best in the history of college hockey and everyone traps.

3. Talk about future scheduling.... you get the Big 10 sucks, they won't schedule us because they are scared we'll beat them.