Roger Lewis eligible for the draft

[Flipper]

They'll take a little time to develop an OL...particularly a solid reserve who can play inside or out...and a QB. There's enough guys. around every year at WR that are "finished" products that they don't need to take a lot of time to develop a player with technical shortcomings.

So far as comps go...he's closer to TJ Jones than Kendall Wright physically.

[BGSU33]

Saying all he does is run go routes and he's not fast enough is not congruent. Somehow he's running past all these other DBs and no one else can do it. I don't think you guys are paying much attention. He ran fades, crossing patterns etc. etc. Just so happen he flew by all the DBs so often that the go routes were what we remember.

I think I can count on one hand the times he beat a DB on anything other than a go or a stop route. Simply running those routes with little success at it is irrelevant.

And yes it is congruent if his only skill at the college level was running go routes, but the speed he possesses isn't such to run past NFL defenders. I don't think it is. There aren't 10 guys in the league that get by only running deep routes all day, and those guys are a helluva lot faster than Lewis.

I said he should talk to whoever worked with Crabtree (or Crabtree himself) because that would be an example of a guy who came out as a good route runner from the offense that BG is going to run. Kendall Wright is irrelevant unless he's going to teach Lewis how to run like the wind. Terrance Williams might not be a bad comp, but I don't see how that helps him now because we won't be running the Babers offense anymore.

My point in all of this is not that I don't think Lewis can play in the NFL. I've said for a long time that I think Roger is an NFL player. I think he's got a shot to find that #2-#4 WR slot and have a really nice NFL career. I don't think leaving now is conducive to that. You keep saying he'll be a starter by the time he's 25 years old, but he's young enough that he doesn't need to leave now to make that happen.

The NFL doesn't develop talent. It's something that I think is a flaw in how the league works, but by and large they do not invest in developing players nearly as much as they should...they're all worried about winning ASAP (or they'll get canned). As such they work mostly with guys that can help them now, and whatever development time they spend is with their highest draft picks. Going higher in the draft buys a LOT of leeway in years to develop your craft. I don't think he's going to go anywhere near highly enough in this class to be guaranteed a roster spot for a year or two. I do think he has the ability to develop further at BG and get high enough in the draft that he could be guaranteed a roster spot.

I'm always 100% about telling college players to do what is best for their NFL careers. College will always be there, and a year or two of NFL salary makes the costs of paying their own way a drop in the bucket. There are plenty of guys that I would say should leave early. I don't think there are many of those guys at the MAC because it's pretty rare for a MAC player to get the pub that scouts have seen him when he's leaving early. In the case of Roger I agree that another season of production doing what he did this past season won't help him much; but a season of learning more routes and beating defenses in different ways than he did this year WILL improve his stock. He is way too raw to leave early; raw WRs that get drafted high do so because of upper echelon measurables.

Well said again

[Globetrotter]

Saying all he does is run go routes and he's not fast enough is not congruent. Somehow he's running past all these other DBs and no one else can do it. I don't think you guys are paying much attention. He ran fades, crossing patterns etc. etc. Just so happen he flew by all the DBs so often that the go routes were what we remember.

I think I can count on one hand the times he beat a DB on anything other than a go or a stop route. Simply running those routes with little success at it is irrelevant.

And yes it is congruent if his only skill at the college level was running go routes, but the speed he possesses isn't such to run past NFL defenders. I don't think it is. There aren't 10 guys in the league that get by only running deep routes all day, and those guys are a helluva lot faster than Lewis.

I said he should talk to whoever worked with Crabtree (or Crabtree himself) because that would be an example of a guy who came out as a good route runner from the offense that BG is going to run. Kendall Wright is irrelevant unless he's going to teach Lewis how to run like the wind. Terrance Williams might not be a bad comp, but I don't see how that helps him now because we won't be running the Babers offense anymore.

My point in all of this is not that I don't think Lewis can play in the NFL. I've said for a long time that I think Roger is an NFL player. I think he's got a shot to find that #2-#4 WR slot and have a really nice NFL career. I don't think leaving now is conducive to that. You keep saying he'll be a starter by the time he's 25 years old, but he's young enough that he doesn't need to leave now to make that happen.

The NFL doesn't develop talent. It's something that I think is a flaw in how the league works, but by and large they do not invest in developing players nearly as much as they should...they're all worried about winning ASAP (or they'll get canned). As such they work mostly with guys that can help them now, and whatever development time they spend is with their highest draft picks. Going higher in the draft buys a LOT of leeway in years to develop your craft. I don't think he's going to go anywhere near highly enough in this class to be guaranteed a roster spot for a year or two. I do think he has the ability to develop further at BG and get high enough in the draft that he could be guaranteed a roster spot.

I'm always 100% about telling college players to do what is best for their NFL careers. College will always be there, and a year or two of NFL salary makes the costs of paying their own way a drop in the bucket. There are plenty of guys that I would say should leave early. I don't think there are many of those guys at the MAC because it's pretty rare for a MAC player to get the pub that scouts have seen him when he's leaving early. In the case of Roger I agree that another season of production doing what he did this past season won't help him much; but a season of learning more routes and beating defenses in different ways than he did this year WILL improve his stock. He is way too raw to leave early; raw WRs that get drafted high do so because of upper echelon measurables.

Well said again

I stopped reading at the NFL doesn't develop talent. They definitely do. If he had caught 2 balls in his career and was 6-6 and ran a 4.2 forty he would get drafted. I think that's the difference here. I think he will have the production and the measureables. Not elite get drafted over your production Chris Conley measureables but still starter NFL WR measureables. I would be he runs in the 4.4's and his strength and hands will be amongst the best in the WR group. He is a better athlete then Greg Salas who went in the 4th.

[Flipper]

I like Cardale Jones... I'd love to see the Lions take him in the 4th this year... maybe even the third if that's the comp pick for losing Suh. Stafford was maybe the top QB in the league in the second half of the year but he's 27 with a lot of wear on him. Now would be a good time to look for a replacement.

Roger Lewis will run closer to 4.6 than 4.4. I bet he's a 4.50-4.55...

[BGSU33]

I see a number of notable WR's are coming out early, even a few who said they would stay and now are going pro. That also doesn't help Lewis if he's leaning towards leaving.

[jpfalcon09]

I see a number of notable WR's are coming out early, even a few who said they would stay and now are going pro. That also doesn't help Lewis if he's leaning towards leaving.

The longer he waits to make a decision, the more I think he's leaning towards staying. Players are declaring now so they can get invites to the combine, hire agents and get their affairs in order so to speak.

[Globetrotter]

It's certainly a big decision. I just don't see him becoming more draftable in a season with BG.

[jpfalcon09]

It's certainly a big decision. I just don't see him becoming more draftable in a season with BG.

He may not be draftable after this season, it all depends how each team views him. I'd just hate to see him throw away a chance at earning a degree while having the chance to play football for free.

[Schadenfreude]

I don't see Ohio State as over-scheduling. They will lose a TON of talent to the NFL and graduation. Yes I know there are 5 star recruits right behind those leaving but playing them in the opener is the perfect time. They will have no film on the Jinks system so anything can happen. Sure we could get rolled...but maybe not.

I don't mind taking a shot at a team like Ohio State once in a while. Every other Big Ten team has lost to the MAC at some point. Why not Ohio State? Why not Bowling Green?

[BGSU33]

Sort of a head scratcher coming out of Kalamazoo. WMU WR Daniel Braverman is leaving early, but Corey Davis is returning. I heard talk of Davis possibly leaving early but heard nothing about Braverman jumping ship. Braverman is without a doubt a possession-type WR. Very surprised to see him leaving and judging by PJ Fleck's comment and reading between the lines, I gather he's saying he shouldn't leave but it's his decision. Fleck then goes on to rave about Davis' decision to return. Davis already has an NFL body. Getting another year in college will help that kid.

[Globetrotter]

It's certainly a big decision. I just don't see him becoming more draftable in a season with BG.

He may not be draftable after this season, it all depends how each team views him. I'd just hate to see him throw away a chance at earning a degree while having the chance to play football for free.

I know that OSU pays for the rest of the athletes education. I think that there is a national program that helps to fundable too,

[Flipper]

Sort of a head scratcher coming out of Kalamazoo. WMU WR Daniel Braverman is leaving early, but Corey Davis is returning. I heard talk of Davis possibly leaving early but heard nothing about Braverman jumping ship. Braverman is without a doubt a possession-type WR. Very surprised to see him leaving and judging by PJ Fleck's comment and reading between the lines, I gather he's saying he shouldn't leave but it's his decision. Fleck then goes on to rave about Davis' decision to return. Davis already has an NFL body. Getting another year in college will help that kid.

That is odd...Braverman is pretty small...not sure how fast he is. I haven't seen him a lot, but I don't recall him jumping out at me as an NFL level guy.

[Falconfreak90]

I don't see Ohio State as over-scheduling. They will lose a TON of talent to the NFL and graduation. Yes I know there are 5 star recruits right behind those leaving but playing them in the opener is the perfect time. They will have no film on the Jinks system so anything can happen. Sure we could get rolled...but maybe not.

I don't mind taking a shot at a team like Ohio State once in a while. Every other Big Ten team has lost to the MAC at some point. Why not Ohio State? Why not Bowling Green?

My thoughts exactly. ANYTHING can happen in any game. I've been to every BG game at the shoe and twice (1992 & 2003) we were so freakin close to winning it still stings. 1997 and 2006? Well, we didn't belong on the same field.

osu will lose to a MAC school someday...it will happen. Hopefully in about 240 days.

[BGSU33]

Roger Lewis summed up his status tonight with two words: "still thinking." This might go down to the wire.

[jpfalcon09]

Roger Lewis summed up his status tonight with two words: "still thinking." This might go down to the wire.

My guess is the grades he received from the advisory board weren't all that great or he'd would have made up his mind by now.