BG at WMU

[gmartin]

In the past two games plus 2nd half against Toledo Denny is 1-19, total of 6 points.

Credit for Huger to play Fox. 2 huge 3 point shots.

[Falconfreak90]

Any road win is this league is a good one. 13-7, 4-3 MAC. BiG road game at CMU Sat...who beat Miami. Akron over NIU, Kent beat EMU and Ohio won at tsun.

[BGSU33]

Fox may have just earned himself some more PT. Those shots were clutch and the last one you knew it was good as soon as he let it go. Big shot! That it what he need from the perimeter.

[Falco_peregrinusana]

That was an important win - you MUST beat the teams you are supposed to beat (forget what Vegas says). Those missed free throws at the end though made it closer than it had to be.

[Flipper]

This league is so crazy...we beat OU in Athens, Toledo beats us at home, OU then beats Toledo in their building. It's so tough to peg where you really are as a team in a conference such as ours

[hammb]

This league is so crazy...we beat OU in Athens, Toledo beats us at home, OU then beats Toledo in their building. It's so tough to peg where you really are as a team in a conference such as ours

I'll say. I have to say what I've seen this far this year (which is quite a bit thanks to season tickets and espn3) this conference is getting better again.

It's not the late 90s with s bunch of future NBA talent, but it's not the Mac of a free years back where every other conference game had you thinking we were setting basketball back 50 years.

I'm not yet sure if there are any teams for enough to make a run in the tourney but there are definitely some quality teams in the league. Cleveland should be a lot of fun again.

[BGSU33]

This league is so crazy...we beat OU in Athens, Toledo beats us at home, OU then beats Toledo in their building. It's so tough to peg where you really are as a team in a conference such as ours

Ohio hit 14 threes vs UT and Simmons had a conference record 17 assists! That was only one less than UT had as a team. And no, it wasn't the home scorer cooking the books as it was a road game at UT. As for Toledo, I kind of feel like recently UT plays really well vs BG and then loses at home to teams they shouldn't, like last night. Same in football. They beat BG at BG in football, but then lost at home to an undermanned NIU team and to WMU with the MAC West title on the line. Although, that win may have awaken Ohio last night as they now have a 3-game homestand vs. Kent State, Akron and NIU. Those are the top three teams in the MAC and they get them all lined up at home.

[BGSU33]

This league is so crazy...we beat OU in Athens, Toledo beats us at home, OU then beats Toledo in their building. It's so tough to peg where you really are as a team in a conference such as ours

I'll say. I have to say what I've seen this far this year (which is quite a bit thanks to season tickets and espn3) this conference is getting better again.

It's not the late 90s with s bunch of future NBA talent, but it's not the Mac of a free years back where every other conference game had you thinking we were setting basketball back 50 years.

I'm not yet sure if there are any teams for enough to make a run in the tourney but there are definitely some quality teams in the league. Cleveland should be a lot of fun again.

I agree that the league is getting better. Not quite the same as it was in the mid-to-late 1990's, but it's getting closer. I would say there is actually more parity now than then though. I guess I was spoiled to have been in school then (1993-97). Every other team in the MAC then had an NBA product: BG had Antonio Daniels, Ohio had Gary Trent, Ball State had Bonzi Wells, Miami had Wally Szczerbiak and Ira Newble, Eastern Michigan had Earl Boykins and Derrick Dial. Those guys were all NBA players. And the teams that didn't have an NBA player still had some good ones like WMU's Sadi Washington and Toledo's Craig Thames. Other guys who were really good then were Miami's Devin Davis, Ball State's Steve Payne, Ohio's Geno Ford, etc. Gary Trent was the most dominant player I have seen in the MAC since. Not even close IMO. He was MAC POY three consecutive times including his freshman year and had he not left school early would have very likely swept it all four years. Just a beast! I still think Davis had the best hair in the MAC to this day and if not for Gary Trent, Steve Payne would have won MAC Player of the Year at least once.

[zete]

Glad Fox came through. Kind of struck me as funny that non scholarship kid showed the rest of 'em how to shoot.

[BGSU33]

Glad Fox came through. Kind of struck me as funny that non scholarship kid showed the rest of 'em how to shoot.

In one of the postgame interviews last night one of his teammates said he's probably the best shooter on the team. I wouldn't disagree with that and I'm not basing that on last night alone. If he can keep producing results like last night when he's on the floor he could give us something we sorely lack, a true threat from three, and it could really help stretch a defense. Teams know we want to attack the paint. They also know we don't have many true threats to knock down threes consistently. And that's what Fox does, he shoots threes. Every attempt this year but one was from three, and he's making them at a good clip.

[Roll Along!]

We are the #1 three point shooting team in the conference at 38.5%, although we admittedly don't shoot a ton of them (only one team in the MAC has attempted fewer). We may not have a guy who is going to make eight a game, but three point shooting is not an issue for this team with or without Matt Fox. I'm as stoked as anybody for Matt Fox and seeing him come through in the clutch, but he can't be a liability on defense or be one-dimensional. We've got guys who shoot it just about as well who do a lot of other things too.

[hammb]

3 Point shooting on the whole hasn't been an issue because Denny has great numbers on the season behind the arc. The past 3 games or so, however, he's been BAD out there. We need at least one guy that can be a catch and shoot threat. Alcegaire seems to do a good job off the dribble now that he's stopped just chucking, but our offense is based on getting to the rim. That's a great thing, I would so much rather build an offense around attacking the rim than jump shooting, but we do need that threat other teams must honor to space the floor...and when they get the open looks they need to knock them down. Prior to this recent slump Denny has done that. The past couple games he's been struggling and it's hurt us down the stretch. Rather than stick with the extremely cold hand the other night Huger brought in Fox and he buried 2 HUGE shots.

That's what we needed more than anything the other night regardless of what our shooting % numbers would show. If Denny cannot get his touch back there will be minutes for Fox.

And I'm with 33 in that I wasn't at all surprised to see him hit those shots. He's a limited player, who really only offers one skill, but that skill is the ability to knock down open looks from deep. He's shown it in previous games in limited action, then he showed it in a huge spot when we needed it.

He's not gonna start playing 20 minutes per game, but defensive liability or not, there is a place for a dude that can come in and knock down open shots from deep.