BGSU Athletics Strategic Plan/Open Letter

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"Let's talk about baseball, Greg...

"Ok...but shouldn't we be talking about sports we play?"

"We have a baseball team, Greg"

"Really...you sure?"

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Flipper wrote:"Let's talk about baseball, Greg...

"Ok...but shouldn't we be talking about sports we play?"

"We have a baseball team, Greg"

"Really...you sure?"

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Oh he was well aware BG played baseball...it was one of only 2 sports that won anything on a consistent basis during his time at BGSU. He just sucked at his job and was a d bag.
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BGSU33 wrote:
Flipper wrote:Exactly... you do not want to be Akron. Their previous administration went on a completely ridiculous building spree. Current President is now stuck with a mountain of debt and few options to deal with it.
But they sure do have a damn nice football stadium! :wink:
And its a shame nobody in Akron cares enough to go. Most are too busy staying home and watching a team in Cbus.
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"Greg...let's move onto swimming and diving"

"Yeah let's do that....swimming and diving creates too much wear and tear on the pool and diving is really just gravity anyway...heck, I could throw a penny off the three meter board and it will land in the water...that isn't a sport...we're just going to swim"

"But we compete at swimming and diving...we'll be crushed at every meet"

"I know...it seems counterintuitive..but I took the money I saved from axing diving and used it to hire a consultant. The guy has a bunch of degrees and really sharp business cards and these really great shoes...I think they're Cole Haan's. Anyway...he told me I did the right thing. In fact..he told me if I cut a few more scholarships from the rinky dink programs, I could hire his brother to tell me how smart I am. That guy wears Gucci loafers. Man..we are truly onto something here"
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apollo wrote: Bottom line...if BGSU is serious about sports, they have to:

1. Get the sports back to being fully funded, particularly baseball
2. The University needs to commit more money to Athletics...money is tight, but BG gets close to the least amount from fees as anyone in the MAC. Plus we have hockey which puts us at a disadvantage...."bring back the glory" was a huge disappointment in terms of raising money.
3. The university needs to do a huge capital campaign combining both Academic and Athletic facilities. Try to raise as much as possible and get a lot of stuff done at once. Ball State just finished theirs and many of their Athletic facilities were renovated.
Precisely. Save the empty acronyms, buzz words and sloganeering for the "professional development" seminars. Lets operate in the real world. It's about money from the Board and the heavy-hitter donor class. Kingston's job is to focus on the latter while Mazey's job should be to focus on the former. The worst thing that can happen is to interpret our recent success as a sign that we can continue to function as the lowest-funded department in the MAC. Everything we've heard is that our leaders are genuinely serious about investing in athletics as a mechanism of advancing the university and I can only hope it's true.
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Just an FYI, Chris was at the signing get together tonight and announced thanks to some donators we are to have a new field before the first game.
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Tech2000 wrote:Just an FYI, Chris was at the signing get together tonight and announced thanks to some donators we are to have a new field before the first game.
Football or baseball?
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Tech2000 wrote:Football
Good to hear, the turf is in dire need of replacing.
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Tech2000 wrote:Just an FYI, Chris was at the signing get together tonight and announced thanks to some donators we are to have a new field before the first game.
Orange field with brown endzones? :twisted:
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mscarn wrote:
apollo wrote: Bottom line...if BGSU is serious about sports, they have to:

1. Get the sports back to being fully funded, particularly baseball
2. The University needs to commit more money to Athletics...money is tight, but BG gets close to the least amount from fees as anyone in the MAC. Plus we have hockey which puts us at a disadvantage...."bring back the glory" was a huge disappointment in terms of raising money.
3. The university needs to do a huge capital campaign combining both Academic and Athletic facilities. Try to raise as much as possible and get a lot of stuff done at once. Ball State just finished theirs and many of their Athletic facilities were renovated.
Precisely. Save the empty acronyms, buzz words and sloganeering for the "professional development" seminars. Lets operate in the real world. It's about money from the Board and the heavy-hitter donor class. Kingston's job is to focus on the latter while Mazey's job should be to focus on the former. The worst thing that can happen is to interpret our recent success as a sign that we can continue to function as the lowest-funded department in the MAC. Everything we've heard is that our leaders are genuinely serious about investing in athletics as a mechanism of advancing the university and I can only hope it's true.
I, for one, want nothing to do with taking more money from the general fund or the university as a whole. That is not, IMO, a mechanism of advancing the university. I'm all for participating in Division 1 athletics in the MAC. I'm all for doing everything we can to win within the budgets we can manage. But raising student fees to pay more money for the athletics is not a wise move, IMO.

Increase private donorship is awesome, I'm all for that, but I don't want anything to do with being like Akron with a shiny ass football stadium that threatens to bankrupt the university and sees about the same number people in attendance as the rubber bowl.
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apollo wrote:Bottom line...if BGSU is serious about sports, they have to:

1. Get the sports back to being fully funded, particularly baseball
2. The University needs to commit more money to Athletics...money is tight, but BG gets close to the least amount from fees as anyone in the MAC. Plus we have hockey which puts us at a disadvantage...."bring back the glory" was a huge disappointment in terms of raising money.
3. The university needs to do a huge capital campaign combining both Academic and Athletic facilities. Try to raise as much as possible and get a lot of stuff done at once. Ball State just finished theirs and many of their Athletic facilities were renovated.
1. Fully funding baseball means lowering the funding on a different sport. The NCAA only permits a certain number of scholarships across all sports, and they must be equitably distributed across men's and women's sports.
2. The University commits a huge chunk of money to athletics. Private donors need to make up the rest. The Falcon Club goes to scholarships for the athletes, part of the money athletics needs. However, they've managed to lower the value of the Falcon Club by offering fewer benefits and charging for the smallest perks.
3. Um...they are, but you haven't heard about it. There is such a thing as a silent phase.
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Another benefit to having a broadly drawn mission statement is it allows you to tailor everyone's performance evaluations to the same, open to public review, document. From an HR standpoint...that would seem to be pretty important
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footballguy51 wrote:
apollo wrote:Bottom line...if BGSU is serious about sports, they have to:

1. Get the sports back to being fully funded, particularly baseball
2. The University needs to commit more money to Athletics...money is tight, but BG gets close to the least amount from fees as anyone in the MAC. Plus we have hockey which puts us at a disadvantage...."bring back the glory" was a huge disappointment in terms of raising money.
3. The university needs to do a huge capital campaign combining both Academic and Athletic facilities. Try to raise as much as possible and get a lot of stuff done at once. Ball State just finished theirs and many of their Athletic facilities were renovated.
1. Fully funding baseball means lowering the funding on a different sport. The NCAA only permits a certain number of scholarships across all sports, and they must be equitably distributed across men's and women's sports.
2. The University commits a huge chunk of money to athletics. Private donors need to make up the rest. The Falcon Club goes to scholarships for the athletes, part of the money athletics needs. However, they've managed to lower the value of the Falcon Club by offering fewer benefits and charging for the smallest perks.
3. Um...they are, but you haven't heard about it. There is such a thing as a silent phase.
You have no idea what you are talking about....Baseball was fully funded until Christopher cut scholarships to help support hockey and increase the football budget...there is no limit to fully funding your programs...Title IX is a factor, but what you are saying is dead wrong. May be one of the dumbest things posted on the board in awhile...just making stuff up.

If they have to cut scholarships from another sport to fully fund baseball, then they should do it. The goal of the department should be to win MAC Championships...baseball has proven it can do that.
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Tech2000 wrote:Just an FYI, Chris was at the signing get together tonight and announced thanks to some donators we are to have a new field before the first game.
That's great news! I hope we go with the FieldTurf brand again. There are a lot of competitor brands out there that aren't as good as FieldTurf (FieldTurf has the patent on the type of infill they use that other brands don't have). I was actually surprised BG went with FieldTurf from the get-go when we first put turf in because we often seem to do things on the cheap. I would imagine there's an incentive to use FieldTurf again. I know when Ball State replaced its FieldTurf surface a couple years ago, they put in FieldTurf again at a very good price as a repeat buyer. I hope BG does the same.
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