Dieter to transfer

[Schadenfreude]

This has nothing to do with FBS power politics. It's pretty simple: Should young men and young women be able to attend the graduate school of their choice without giving up a year of athletic eligibility?

Yes. This isn't a loophole. It's common sense. Most people switch schools for graduate school. I am really surprised to see so many people here arguing for a penalty on athletes who want to do this.

[transfer2BGSU]

You can't blame Dieter for taking advantage of a dumb rule...it's really too bad the NCAA has a weak leader. What it really needs is someone to get in their and control college football. For every Texas, Ohio State and Alabama who make big money, there are ten programs that lose enough money to bankrupt their Athletic Department. Someone needs to step in and bring common sense back into college athletics.

You're right - it is a dumb rule. But not for the reason you think.

It's a dumb rule because the student-athlete has to go to an institution that doesn't offer the same program as his undergraduate institution. Why does that matter? If they have their degree, they should be able to attend graduate school at another institution and be eligible too play REGARDLESS of whether or not the masters institution has the same program as the SA's undergraduate institution.

Dieter will receive his degree in May. He shouldn't have to go to Alabama and enter a Masters in Ag Econ program to be eligible to play. If he earns his degree, he should be eligible to play regardless of what he elects to enroll in.

As for someone stepping in and bringing common sense back into college athletics- that's not the responsibility of the NCAA president. That rests on the shoulders of the colleges and universities presidents. They have the power to instill common sense, but too many of them are caught up in the hoopla and the glitz.

[Dayons_Den]

Good point Transfer. Those who don't like this scenario playing out seem to think committing to a school means they have the 4 year commitment when in reality the grant in aids are one year agreements, right?

[BGSU33]

http://fanbuzz.rare.us/story/1000-yard- ... o-alabama/

Not really any new information but it's out there for everyone to see now.

I suppose the cat is out of the bag now. I suspect this is why the new staff went after Landry so hard at the last minute as they were notified that Gehrig likely wouldn't be back for the 2016 season. The program will now be losing nearly half of their receiving production with Lewis leaving and Dieter likely transferring.

After the beatdown we suffered in the bowl, I started thinking about next year and how we could feature one of the best - if not THE best - returning WR duos in the country. Now it looks like neither one of them will be here. We're in for some major growing pains next season as we lose a record-setting QB, RB and two WR's in Johnson, Greene, Lewis and now very likely Dieter. You don't just replace those guys. In fact, we won't even be able to replace one of them.

[zete]

http://fanbuzz.rare.us/story/1000-yard- ... o-alabama/

Not really any new information but it's out there for everyone to see now.

I suppose the cat is out of the bag now. I suspect this is why the new staff went after Landry so hard at the last minute as they were notified that Gehrig likely wouldn't be back for the 2016 season. The program will now be losing nearly half of their receiving production with Lewis leaving and Dieter likely transferring.

After the beatdown we suffered in the bowl, I started thinking about next year and how we could feature one of the best - if not THE best - returning WR duos in the country. Now it looks like neither one of them will be here. We're in for some major growing pains next season as we lose a record-setting QB, RB and two WR's in Johnson, Greene, Lewis and now very likely Dieter.

Let's not forget Mr. Dino flew the coop too.


All that being said, I can't blame Dieter for leaving.

[apollo]

You can't blame Dieter for taking advantage of a dumb rule...it's really too bad the NCAA has a weak leader. What it really needs is someone to get in their and control college football. For every Texas, Ohio State and Alabama who make big money, there are ten programs that lose enough money to bankrupt their Athletic Department. Someone needs to step in and bring common sense back into college athletics.

You're right - it is a dumb rule. But not for the reason you think.

It's a dumb rule because the student-athlete has to go to an institution that doesn't offer the same program as his undergraduate institution. Why does that matter? If they have their degree, they should be able to attend graduate school at another institution and be eligible too play REGARDLESS of whether or not the masters institution has the same program as the SA's undergraduate institution.

Dieter will receive his degree in May. He shouldn't have to go to Alabama and enter a Masters in Ag Econ program to be eligible to play. If he earns his degree, he should be eligible to play regardless of what he elects to enroll in.

As for someone stepping in and bringing common sense back into college athletics- that's not the responsibility of the NCAA president. That rests on the shoulders of the colleges and universities presidents. They have the power to instill common sense, but too many of them are caught up in the hoopla and the glitz.

You're wrong...D1 football and basketball players get tremendous advantages to help them earn their degree. Many schools literally walk their kids to class and have individual tutors to make sure these kids stay eligible. Not saying these kids don't earn their degree, just saying that they aren't owed any more rights than they are given.
The whole cost of attendance thing is ridiculous too. The players at about 15 D1 schools may deserve a little money. It is comical to say that these players are being exploited and deserve more.
If a kid wants to transfer without sitting out a year, then he can drop down to Division 1AA or D2 and find the grad major he wants. It isn't a right to play Division 1 athletics...yes if Dieter wants to transfer again, let him go to North Dakota State. Same thing if a guy from UM or ND graduates early and wants more playing time....let them go to Murray State and start.
Do I think there should be some limits to when coaches can leave as well? Yes, for sure....there also should be a cap on coaching salaries.
I could really care less that Dieter is leaving...I'm just saying that the rule isn't being used for academics in college football or college basketball.

[Flipper]

I'm a free market kind of guy.... if a kid wants to transfer, he should be able to do so without sitting a year....I can't think of a single reason why they shouldn't. Sure... there's a raft of arguments to be made from the schools and the NCAA, but none of them are strong enough to trump the right... and yes freedom of educational choice is a right... of the individual.

The Boz had it right...

[Tech2000]

Gerhig is free to go as he has fulfilled his obligations to us. Once he receives his diploma I am glad to call him a fellow alumni. But...

After reading the boz T-shirt a point came to mind dealing with scholarships of any athlete and for that matter athletes who aren't on scholarships. The NCAA controls these students to a point of strangling them. They can't accept this, have to watch out who they are with (ie boosters) can't do this can't earn money without strict guidelines, what the heck! Many times we offered to take a friend of the family who was on the dance team and our daughters baby sitter when younger out after a game. She was dating, and now married to Ben bojicic, but because we didn't really know him at that time there was a concern about any violations just for taking them out after the game.
Point is this. The NCAA really has a strangle hold on THESE kids but what about non athletic kids on scholarships. Kids on other scholarships can eat with whom ever they wish, drink with whom ever, work at any job they wish no matter if it's alumni booster or not and earn as much money as they can. And, a student can transfer to wherever whenever! Why the double standard? Because coaches are afraid of some teams putting better consistent teams together? A way for the schools thru the NCAA to control a teams success? What is the real reason? Should ANY student need to follow the same regulations as the athletes?

[jpfalcon09]

I'm a free market kind of guy.... if a kid wants to transfer, he should be able to do so without sitting a year....I can't think of a single reason why they shouldn't. Sure... there's a raft of arguments to be made from the schools and the NCAA, but none of them are strong enough to trump the right... and yes freedom of educational choice is a right... of the individual.

The Boz had it right...

I have no issue with him leaving either. If his NFL dreams don't work out, he'll have a graduate degree from one of the most respected institutions in the country and will set himself up for success off the field, I believe that's what we should be focusing on here more rather than whether or not he owes BG or ridiculously enough, us the fans and alumni anything.

[Rollo83]

Central Michigan is losing its 5th year kicker to Iowa. If you read the article the kid admits he's doing it for football reasons and not academics.

http://www.cm-life.com/article/2016/02/ ... 20National

[BGSU33]

Central Michigan is losing its 5th year kicker to Iowa. If you read the article the kid admits he's doing it for football reasons and not academics.

http://www.cm-life.com/article/2016/02/ ... 20National

Let's all be honest for a minute here, many of the guys who do it are doing it for football and not academics whether they say or admit it or not. Not all, but many. Similar to Group of Five coaches who take Power Five jobs and say it wasn't for the money. That's almost always a load of crap. It might not be the only reason, but it's often THE reason and a huge part of it. Kind of like when I see these NBA commercials and hearing players say they only do it for the fans. Really??? So if you weren't being paid millions you'd still be out there "doing it for the fans???" Yeah, yeah, I know, they can't or won't just come out and say it, but all this talk of "it's not the money" is insulting. At least in this CMU kid's case he owning it. It's kind of refreshing when someone does and doesn't hide behind the often obvious facts. Wish we'd see more of it in sports.

[Warthog]

And conversely, Ohio State RB is playing at Akron next season. It goes both ways.

http://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-stat ... -option-at" target="_blank

[Globetrotter]

This has nothing to do with FBS power politics. It's pretty simple: Should young men and young women be able to attend the graduate school of their choice without giving up a year of athletic eligibility?

Yes. This isn't a loophole. It's common sense. Most people switch schools for graduate school. I am really surprised to see so many people here arguing for a penalty on athletes who want to do this.

None of those people are going to switch for Grad School. You are painting an unrealistic picture.

[Globetrotter]

Good point Transfer. Those who don't like this scenario playing out seem to think committing to a school means they have the 4 year commitment when in reality the grant in aids are one year agreements, right?

And an expectation that you have 5 years to complete 4.

[Globetrotter]

Gerhig is free to go as he has fulfilled his obligations to us. Once he receives his diploma I am glad to call him a fellow alumni. But...

After reading the boz T-shirt a point came to mind dealing with scholarships of any athlete and for that matter athletes who aren't on scholarships. The NCAA controls these students to a point of strangling them. They can't accept this, have to watch out who they are with (ie boosters) can't do this can't earn money without strict guidelines, what the heck! Many times we offered to take a friend of the family who was on the dance team and our daughters baby sitter when younger out after a game. She was dating, and now married to Ben bojicic, but because we didn't really know him at that time there was a concern about any violations just for taking them out after the game.
Point is this. The NCAA really has a strangle hold on THESE kids but what about non athletic kids on scholarships. Kids on other scholarships can eat with whom ever they wish, drink with whom ever, work at any job they wish no matter if it's alumni booster or not and earn as much money as they can. And, a student can transfer to wherever whenever! Why the double standard? Because coaches are afraid of some teams putting better consistent teams together? A way for the schools thru the NCAA to control a teams success? What is the real reason? Should ANY student need to follow the same regulations as the athletes?

So you want to open the door to more booster influence? Why restrict it at all?