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Let's see, Miller left the team depleted, and Roos started with Justinger (her recruit) and Cairnduff (Miller holdover). Then Roos got our 5'4" guard that tries to shoot from the key, Leah Bolton that probably played 5 total minutes in her career, and Abby and Kennedy, players who didn't seem to progress from last year to this. (well, maybe a little but not enough).

Then last year's class of Myers, Puk and Webb. So, next year's Senior class is missing, I guess. Sure, Roos had bad luck last year, brought on by starting the season with 12 roster players and losing 5 players, but it seems the coaching style is the problem. We need BALLERS, not the 3 point streaky shooters we have now. Perhaps the style of play, making kids live or die by the 3 is not the style BG needs to play.

Anyway, it's off to the men's game on the web....

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I have no doubt that player development, or lack thereof, is one of the key reasons for this team's flop of a season. Again, our inability to take care of the ball, shoot the ball, rebound the defensive boards, and outhustle the other team, has made the Falcons look no better than a mediocre corps of girls high school players. How many assistant coaches does Roos have? I'm still trying to figure out what they do in order to draw a paycheck. I know there have been comments about the coaches not recruiting enough "non-white" players, but I don't believe the players' race is an indicator of athleticism or basketball abilities. Tonight, Buffalo just plain wanted it more than BG. The Bulls players are better than the Falcons. Our players need one-on-one instruction, and lots of it. Game after game, we get outplayed in practically every aspect of the game. Plain and simple, we are not as good as most of our opponents. And that is ALL, 100% on the coaching staff. I really believe that if this coaching staff cannot recruit quality, coachable players that can be taught to achieve excellence, not only individually, but corporately as a team, then they need to be replaced with coaches that can. I want more than anything, for this team to be a successful, winning team that every coach, player, and fan can be proud of. But this coaching staff has done NOTHING to make this team any better, either because the players have already gotten as good as they're going to, or because they simply lack the abilities to coach at this level. Just my honest opinion.......
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Notes from the 2015-2016 season
1.The officiating is abysmal. Highly inconsistent, maddingly incorrect calls, openly disrepectful of Bowling Green teams and coaches. It's like we have won so many games, and now they're punishing us for it.
2.The Stroh has the worst sound system in the MAC, and coupled with the worst game announcer in the MAC.
3. I cannot understand the players names or more than half of whatever else is said. The sound double and triple echoes into section 103, and the announcer has such poor diction and slurs the words together, what is being said is unknowable.
4.Lopsided losing records two years in a row is unacceptable, no matter what the reasons.
5.Almost no player development occurs from one year to the next. Is it because the assistants are not doing their jobs or because the players aren't willing to work hard enough to improve themselves?
6.What happened to that great tough Falcon defense?
7.Every other team in the MAC has recruited taller, stronger, tougher women to play in and around the paint, and super quick guards with great ball handling skills. BGSU has recruited slow, short skinny girls who average over 20 turnovers a game.
8.The T-shirt cannon is a joke because they fire T-shirts into the same section every game, and some of the cheerleaders are a joke, because they throw T-shirts to some of the same fans amost every game.
9.The student turnout for games is almost zero. Maybe if the game play wasn't so miserable, more would come. There used to be at least some support from the guys who practiced against the women's team and their friends.
10.Feel free to add to this list.
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I think the last 2 years BG had more injuries than in all 11 years of the Miller era. It seems that some players got on the court so Roos could say she started the same players all season. It seems to me that the only players who were worthy of never being pulled we we Jackie Motyka and Lauren prochaska, our two scoring machines. We had to be near the bottom in scoring offense, coupled with a 20 turnover aaverage and a horrible assist to turnover ratio and I'm thinking the coach needs to take a hard look at her and her assistants recruits and coaching. I have a feeling that one or two underclass members will not be on th e roster next year
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The glory years are over. those of us old enough to enjoy the years of Voll and Miller are sad. We have plummeted so far so fast! The good news is, in a year or two, women's basketball won't matter any longer, except to parents of players. Let's face it, it is a sport that means nothing to 95% of sports fans. We can always say we remember the glory years, kind of like the hockey team.
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HoopsFan, you speak of Prochaska, and I am just in awe of the player she was for four solid years. She was overlooked by the larger schools, and we got a gem of a player in every aspect of the game. Curt Miller converted Lauren from an avid shooter around the key, to one of the most prolific three-point shooters in BGSU history. But Miller also surrounded Prochaska with a lot of quality players. Good three-point "shooters" are a dime a dozen. But we need SCORERS, who can put the ball in the hole from anywhere on the court, inside and out. We have a crew of on-and-off 3-point shooters that can't take care of the ball, play defense, shoot free throws, or pull a defensive rebound. We need to stop recruiting one-dimensional players, and start landing some talented, multi-dimensional players that have potential for greatness.
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Justinger was signed to play for Bob Lindsey at Kent State. When he was fired another Falcon fan helped bring her to BG
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The question isn't wether or not any of us can coach....the question at hand is can Roos. She did fine with Curt's roster...not so much on her own. Next year is pivotal for her and the program. Do we step forward or continue to wallow? If we suck again next year do we make the switch or ride things out like we did with Orr and cripple the program.
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Make the switch now. I see Jennifer Roos as an associate / assistant head coach. Curt, Jennifer, Brandi and Kevin all gelled and worked well together. Ever since day one as Roos the coach things weren't the same. Had the injuries, the players leaving the program, the Ali Mann issues, lack of player development from one year to another. I've met Jennifer on several occasions and she is a wonderful woman however I feel it's time for a change.
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I mentioned this some time ago on a different thread.... But look at previous post to see the NAMES of Curts asst coaches. Dont know what their prior experience was prior to BG , but it seems as THIS years assts. are VERY inexperienced coaching wise... Cant help a struggling group of players. Roos cant do it all... Wouls seem to have only one asst. w/ positive coaching experience.
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I absolutely agree with you on the inexperienced staff however is is Coach Roos whom assembles the staff. This day and age however you can't have growing pains, coaches or players.
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I, too, agree that it's time for a coaching change. I have nothing against any of the coaching staff in regards to their personal qualities. But in every circumstance, we DO reap what we sow. Coach Roos formed her staff, she formed her team, and she coached her team. Who then, is responsible for the outcome? I feel there is no more room for excuses as to why other teams are better than us. The current process, over the last sixty games or so, has not worked, and we don't need to trudge through another sixty of "more of the same", in order for us to realize we should have looked elsewhere for a staff and a process that DOES work. It's not fair to the program, the players, or the fans, to continue a system that produces results that are far below the level of mediocrity. I believe the time is NOW!
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Disagree that our staff is inexperienced...Your three primary assistants, Fleming, Brooks and Nusseibeh had at least a few years in other programs before coming here. I don't think experience is the issue...

Love to see a backcourt of Puk and Lambert. Puk has men's game three point range and the length to shoot over people. Lambert can really motor and she has great shooting range as well. Seifker looked good in the post at times this year. Santoro on the wing and maybe Cole or Baer at the four....Baer needs to hit the weights but i love her vision and passing ability. That's a team that could do well in the MAC if we can get a functioning bench
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Last year's multiple season ending injuries affected not only last year, but this year as well. This team would have been much better off with a healthy Erica Donavan and Lauren Webb, neither which returned to the team or left early in the season, Just imagine having Erica Donavan inside with Lauren Tibbs. That would have been fun. As far as player development, Lauren Tibbs played more and had more success this season than she had in three seasons at Marquette. These issues and injuries Coach Miller rarely had to deal with during his tenure.

I am disappointed with how the last two seasons have gone for BG, but I believe that Coach Roos deserves more time. If you throw out a coach every two years, you will not have good people apply for the job.

Some fans are funny. When the men had success early in the season, some were expecting a twenty win season, later some were after coach. Fans need patience and to be able to see the big picture.

Just my thought and no Flipper or Flippant not my thoughts of Oberlin. I have been a Falcon for 40 years and will always be a Falcon!

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So, BGSue, you've seen nearly every game and every team in the league. What do YOU think of the talent and coaching of the Falcons? You've seen every player in the league and don't you wonder why we don't get some players? Never mind the academics thing, why couldn't we land a couple of players from the Toledo area that OU, Eastern, Kent St. and Miami got?

Now, look at our players. It's sad when we have ONE player in double figures, the horrible A/TO ratio, and the FG percentages are so low. We must be shooting from the wrong places for that to happen. Take a look at the winning seasons from any year. Those players had much higher statistics and in our case, the players with higher shooting averages played 70 and 51 minutes! Yes, Cole and Baer should have had more PT. Geeze, poor Sara got to play 70 minutes this year after 330 some last, but now next year she's supposed to be the 2nd Center or is that Maddie's job?

I'm not a coach, I don't have a resume, but I do have a season ticket, this year. I saw Voll, Clark, Knoblaugh, and Miller come and go. I saw Haley, Weinert, Larranaga, Dakich, Dakich, Orr and Jans come and go. Right about now, I'd put Roos in the same category as Orr's 4 season with 3 to go. When there are only 5 players on the court at one time, it doesn't take much to turn a program around. Ball St. and Akron and even OU proved that. Next year is Roos' team. If it doesn't show a competitive product, then I'll join the Roos must go camp.

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