I knew this to be true but why is their vote worth more? We're clearly half as important and might as well be in another division.footballguy51 wrote:That's false. The vote was 10-5. Each Power 5 vote counts as 2 votes. The only Power 5 conference to vote no was the BiG whatever--PAC 12, Big 12, SEC, and ACC all voted for. Even if the Sun Belt and Mountain West would have voted against, the vote would have been 8-7 and still passed.BGFalconfromCincy wrote:I know its always fun to blame the big conferences for our problems, but in this case you could also say our fellow group of five members screwed us over. The Mountain West and Sun Belt voted against these camps too. If these two stick together with the rest of the group of five the ban doesn't get passed.hammb wrote:I guess I should have phrased it as big conferences screw us again, buy in reality they are one in the same.
The point is the big boys have come up with another role that disproportionately screws us over. And in this case it screws the athletes over even more.
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I'd argue the MAC has gone a long way in the wrong direction....you can keep your BCS bowl pipe dream...we can't even beat Georgia Southern in the "Who Cares Bowl presented by Mr. Pibb"Schadenfreude wrote:The Mountain West was a few years away. We squared off with the mighty Pacific Coast Athletic Association (now known as the Big West). Football members then included Fresno State, Cal State Fullerton, Nevada-Las Vegas, Long Beach State, Utah State, San Jose State, Pacific, and New Mexico State.FalconTurf wrote:Completely agree. It was once 11-0, nationally ranked and going to the California Bowl (sponsored by raisins) playing a Mountain West (mid-major) team on a broadcast produced by Comcast or some other second rate non-network production company.
The MAC has come a long way.
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Have to mildly blame Jim Harbaugh for this fiasco and find it somewhat ironic as he spent a few years in BG as a youngster when his dad was on staff.
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I think we can put ALL blame on Jim Harbaugh and his self-promoting, attention whoring crusade he has been on since getting to Michigan. James Franklin brought it to center stage a few years ago and then Harbaugh turned it up to 11. I bet 2/3's of college football fans had never heard of satellite camps before Jimmy came back to college football. All fun and games until someone ruins it for the rest of us.
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So we put the blame on a coach willing to take advantage of the rules in place, rather than the group of coaches afraid of him?
I put 0% of the blame on Harbaugh and 100% of the blame on the SEC and ACC coaches who are afraid they're gonna lose talent to northern schools. Rather than work harder themselves they try to change the rules to keep everyone out of their back yard, and who cares how many athletes get screwed along the way.
I put 0% of the blame on Harbaugh and 100% of the blame on the SEC and ACC coaches who are afraid they're gonna lose talent to northern schools. Rather than work harder themselves they try to change the rules to keep everyone out of their back yard, and who cares how many athletes get screwed along the way.
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I agree...Harbaugh is doing his job. The SEC and ACC are worried that he's doing it too well.
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So Urban Meyer and Brian Kelly needed satellite camps to pluck guys out of Florida and the rest of SEC/ACC country? Harbaugh flaunted the camps and was in 7 southern states over the course of a few months last summer. Was he really outworking or was it a mission to stir the pot for name/brand recognition in the south? With all of the companies and businesses dedicated on high school football recruiting, TV rights with almost every FBS conference, you really think satellite camps will keep schools from finding players or players looking at schools outside of their own area???hammb wrote:So we put the blame on a coach willing to take advantage of the rules in place, rather than the group of coaches afraid of him?
I put 0% of the blame on Harbaugh and 100% of the blame on the SEC and ACC coaches who are afraid they're gonna lose talent to northern schools. Rather than work harder themselves they try to change the rules to keep everyone out of their back yard, and who cares how many athletes get screwed along the way.
Even his predecessor at Stanford, who is the polar opposite of Harbaugh agrees...
http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/index.s ... _says.html
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Urban Meyer is pretty well known in SEC country having won National Titles down there...I don't think it's a fair comparison. Kelly? He hasn't won anything, so maybe he shouldn't be held up as an ideal either. The point is that the SEC likes to dictate..they don't go north, they don't play decent OOC schedules...they think they own college football. Harbaugh...within the existing rules..went into their backyard and challenged them on their BS. They responded by getting the NCAA to condone their BS. Harbaugh isn't the joke or the issue here, the NCAA is...as usual
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Nick Saban lost to A&M, Auburn, and Oklahoma in the 2012-13 seasons. He then pleaded with the NCAA to ban the hurry-up offense under the guise of player safety. His proposed ban of course had nothing to do with the fact that all three teams which recently beat him ran up-tempo offenses. If you can't win, change the rules. Thankfully the NCAA told Saban to shove it.
Same thing here. SEC mindset. Instead of innovating, whine and complain and get the NCAA to change the rules in your favor to keep the other guy from winning.
Same thing here. SEC mindset. Instead of innovating, whine and complain and get the NCAA to change the rules in your favor to keep the other guy from winning.
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Don't forget that he runs the hurry up when it suits him Mark.
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I read an article that this may not be a done deal. Evidently there is a 60 day rule, I believe timing is correct, that there is a kick out rule. It will need approx 67% to accept it. It was semi close on last vote. However, it was noted that some people voted against what their respective conferences wanted. PAC 12 voted for ban but all schools wanted to keep it. There were a couple others too
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NCAA board has rescinded the ban on satellite camps, so everyone can finally relax.
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Good. Some sanity can return.jpfalcon09 wrote:NCAA board has rescinded the ban on satellite camps, so everyone can finally relax.
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Harbaugh is muy macho... like Heisenberg....
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