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Yeah, I'm guilty of this. I should have known losing a record setting QB, the all time leading rusher, 3 top WRs and a 3 yr All MAC lineman on offense...and most of our DL and secondary from last year's D unit...and our HC. I expected us to just keep rolling when it's obvious we are rebuilding with a new staff. I'm not ready to throw Coach Jinks under the bus. Sure he's made some mistakes but I thought we played pretty well overall Saturday against MTSU. Certainly better than the first two weeks. We rushed for over 300 yards and that is a BiG plus. We have to learn to play for 60 minutes because we gave up 21 pts in about a 3 min span before the half and first play of the 3rd quarter. This was a winnable game.

Memphis will be a BiG test but I feel we can win the game. Finish the non conf at 2-2 and head into MAC play...hopefully with some of these questions answered. We can bitch and complain all we want but I think few us realized just how much we lost from last season. We must have consistent QB play and haven't gotten that yet.

We can still have a good season and attain our goals...one game at a time.
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I have been to all three games thus far and followed BGSU football since 1995 and I can say with all honesty will won't be favored to beat anyone but Eastern the rest of the season. We will NOT win the MAC EAST and will be lucky if we finish .500 on the season. We lost a lot and and with a new staff trying to figure "it" out makes this a rebuilding year. Knapke is NOT the guy and we don't know what Morgan can provide. Injuries, suspensions, coaching...we are NOT a good football team and don't have much luck on our side.
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Falconfreak90 wrote:Yeah, I'm guilty of this. I should have know losing a record setting QB, the all time leading rusher, 3 top WRs and a 3 yr All MAC lineman on offense...and most of our DL and secondary from last year's D unit...and our HC. I expected us to just keep rolling when it's obvious we are rebuilding with a new staff. I'm not ready to throw Coach Jinks under the bus. Sure he's made some mistakes but I thought we played pretty well overall Saturday against MTSU. Certainly better than the first two weeks. We rushed for over 300 yards and that is a BiG plus. We have to learn to play for 60 minutes because we gave up 21 pts in about a 3 min span before the half and first play of the 3rd quarter. This was a winnable game.

Memphis will be a BiG test but I feel we can win the game. Finish the non conf at 2-2 and head into MAC play...hopefully with some of these questions answered. We can bitch and complain all we want but I think few us realized just how much we lost from last season. We must have consistent QB play and haven't gotten that yet.

We can still have a good season and attain our goals...one game at a time.
I was on the opposite side of you entering this season. My expectations were much lower based on all the things you pointed out above, essentially because of the massive losses we had from last season (essentially all of our offensive playmakers and coaching staff). Initially I felt very good about our then-potential returning WR unit (arguable the best one-two punch in the country) right until up until both Lewis and Dieter left. Then I was extremely concerned. And that was even before Rhodes was dismissed, Jones never came to BG, Spencer vanished from the roster and Landry never made it here. A lot of people said we were still fine with guys like Moore and Redding, but three games in, those guys have been almost invisible. Moore's most notable play was a huge punt return mistake and I can't even tell when Redding is often out there. We all knew there was going to be a drop off at QB going from Johnson to Knapke (because Johnson easily beat him out last year), but we heard Knapke was much improved. Webb never ended up coming to BG, and Knapke doesn't appear to be any better than he was in the second half of 2014. The OL was THE most experienced unit in the nation, then it suffered a huge blow losing Bennett for the year and the line was pretty much manhandled at times vs an FCS team (but did look better vs MTSU to its credit). Our secondary was a big concern coming in, then we lost a starter for the year in Stephens and then another starter in Watson for half the year. Our kicking actually dwindled with Tate last year despite him having a great career, but now we have 5 kickers and can't find one as a reliable option to even make or take a FG beyond 35 yards, not to mention make a PAT without the crowd holding its breath. Our coaching staff was extremely green and it has shown. I saw a team that resembled a 6-6 squad (hopefully) but wouldn't win the East or return to Detroit. Right now it's looking more and more like that each passing game. Our swagger is gone, we're spinning our wheels trying to gain any traction, and as Ronnie Moore would put it - I see a team full of cats and no dogs anywhere right now. This team needs to find a QB and a identity, fast, or 6-6 could be a high expectation too.
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slashba33 wrote:I can say with all honesty will won't be favored to beat anyone but Eastern the rest of the season.
Home underdogs to three teams that have all lost to unranked FCS teams? Say what you want, but we at least beat the ranked FCS team we played. We haven't been good, no doubt about it. But the MAC East sucks. At worst, we will be favored in all of our remaining home games.
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slashba33 wrote:I have been to all three games thus far and followed BGSU football since 1995 and I can say with all honesty will won't be favored to beat anyone but Eastern the rest of the season.
If you have any sharp objects, you may want to lock them away for a while. Things aren't this bad.
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I don't know, EMU won both of their FCS games convincingly. I can't pencil in any win on the schedule right now.
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kdog27 wrote:I don't know, EMU won both of their FCS games convincingly. I can't pencil in any win on the schedule right now.
Kent and Miami should be easy wins. If not, then, well, we'll get to that when we get there.
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kdog27 wrote:I don't know, EMU won both of their FCS games convincingly. I can't pencil in any win on the schedule right now.
EMU has only played one FCS team, Charlotte is an FBS school.
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Good point, just figured they were. Even better for them then.

...Miami and Kent easy wins? Not sure what you can base that off of.
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kdog27 wrote:Good point, just figured they were. Even better for them then.

...Miami and Kent easy wins? Not sure what you can base that off of.
There isn't a single team we can count as an easy win. Not one. I'd certainly say we probably have our best chances at beating teams like Kent State, Buffalo and Miami, but no way can we say they'll be wins based off of what we've seen from BG three games in. The last few years we've certainly had some games we knew we'd win. But this year, nothing is going to come easy for this team. Even after the OSU loss, we all were pretty much on board that North Dakota was going to be a win. And we honestly should have lost that game too. We were literally a fingertip away from another loss there.
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No gimme games on the sked the rest of the way...none.
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kdog27 wrote:...Miami and Kent easy wins? Not sure what you can base that off of.
I said should be easy wins. Kent has had one of the worst offenses in the country and their lone win is Monmouth. Miami is routinely one of the worst teams nationally, lost to their FCS opponent (granted, it was EIU, but still, shouldn't be acceptable for that program), and is still winless. These are two teams we should not be losing to as defending conference champions. EMU, Ohio, and Akron have shown they've improved enough to beat us considering how much we've lost from last year's team. Kent and Miami haven't, imo.
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kdog27 wrote:...Miami and Kent easy wins? Not sure what you can base that off of.
I said should be easy wins. Kent has had one of the worst offenses in the country and their lone win is Monmouth. Miami is routinely one of the worst teams nationally, lost to their FCS opponent (granted, it was EIU, but still, shouldn't be acceptable for that program), and is still winless. These are two teams we should not be losing to as defending conference champions. EMU, Ohio, and Akron have shown they've improved enough to beat us considering how much we've lost from last year's team. Kent and Miami haven't, imo.
I wouldn't even say "should be easy wins" either. I would say Miami and Kent State "could be wins" eliminating the word "easy" all together. I don't think anything is going to come easy for this team. The last four years we've been spoiled in games where we've rolled some teams. I could see a victory this year looking more like an ugly grind-it-out battle where you get a strange score of 22-18 instead.
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We will win the rest of our home games. Not saying they will be EASY wins, but I AM saying we will win all four of them.
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threestooges wrote:We will win the rest of our home games. Not saying they will be EASY wins, but I AM saying we will win all four of them.
It's possible, they're all equally as bad as we are
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