Knapke or Morgan?

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Which QB would you like to see start?

James Knapke
7
19%
James Morgan
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78%
Elijah Cunningham
1
3%
 
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BGSU33 wrote: If we could see the Knapke vs Indiana in 2014 he could take over this team and get this offense rolling. But that guy seems like he hung up his cleats two years ago.
I was at the Indiana game. Knapke did a good job of running the offense, but almost every throw was off target and he was bailed out big time by his receivers. It looked a lot like what I've seen so far this season.
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I've said it before, without Roger Lewis, that 2014 season would have been a complete disaster.
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nandre is 100% on the money. ...like the UT game that year, errant throws that forced guys to stop, jump or reach behind themselves to make plays cost us a lot of points that day.
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The time to pull the plug on Knapke is officially here. He solidified it today and removed all doubt.
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BGSU33 wrote:The time to pull the plug on Knapke is officially here. He solidified it today and removed all doubt.
Agreed. The weather wasn't great, but he did nothing to prove he should start. Instead, he did a lot to prove he should sit.
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MarkL wrote:Morgan is the future. At some point this this year he may well take over. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if by November Morgan is the starter.
Edit: Morgan is the future. At some point this this year he may well take over. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if by conference play Morgan is the starter.
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While this analogy is not my first choice, I believe that we should do what Ohio State did last year - in the same way that Urban Meyer would switch back and forth from Cardale Jones and J.T. Barrett, it is my opinion that Coach Jinks should try both quarterbacks throughout the games ahead. I say start Knapke, but if he is slow and off target, try Morgan. At this point, what is the worst that could happen? Expectations have already plummeted, so we have nowhere left to go but up. Who knows? Maybe watching Morgan will give Knapke some pointers and help him grow as a QB. All in all, Knapke CAN get the job done, but this is not the question, as he already answered that in some moments in 2014. The question is WILL he? That is what concerns me. We will just have to wait and see what happens this season. I feel bad for Knapke because he was recruited for a Dave Clawson offense, not the two high tempo Babers and Jinks systems that have caused him to struggle. Today was ugly and next week has the potential to follow. But we always stand behind our team. Here's to whatever comes our way.
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I don't post often, but it did seem like the team responded to Morgan in the OSU game. The Kid has talent and confidence. The Offense has looked lethargic at times with Knapke. Knapke has poor accuracy and makes poor choices with the ball. We are looking at a 6 win team if a switch is not made soon.
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reyray82 wrote:I don't post often, but it did seem like the team responded to Morgan in the OSU game. The Kid has talent and confidence. The Offense has looked lethargic at times with Knapke. Knapke has poor accuracy and makes poor choices with the ball. We are looking at a 6 win team if a switch is not made soon.

I agree somewhat. However, as we all know, that was against OSU's 3rd- and 4th-stringers, and Morgan has thrown a pick-six in every game of his collegiate career.

I may be an idiot (actually, I *AM* an idiot), but I would alternate them by series. We're going to lose at Memphis no matter who plays, so why not give them both experience before we get into the MAC season? Let the QBs know that they'll each be playing every other series at Memphis, and see how it goes. At best, we see if Morgan plays well enough to warrant more time. At worst, we at least present Memphis with several different looks & give MAC teams something to ponder. I was thinking we'd end non-conference play at 1-3 (and I still am thinking that), but win or lose, this Memphis game is basically meaningless in the scheme of things. So, why not let 'em both play & see what we've got?
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threestooges wrote:
reyray82 wrote:I don't post often, but it did seem like the team responded to Morgan in the OSU game. The Kid has talent and confidence. The Offense has looked lethargic at times with Knapke. Knapke has poor accuracy and makes poor choices with the ball. We are looking at a 6 win team if a switch is not made soon.

I agree somewhat. However, as we all know, that was against OSU's 3rd- and 4th-stringers, and Morgan has thrown a pick-six in every game of his collegiate career.

I may be an idiot (actually, I *AM* an idiot), but I would alternate them by series. We're going to lose at Memphis no matter who plays, so why not give them both experience before we get into the MAC season? Let the QBs know that they'll each be playing every other series at Memphis, and see how it goes. At best, we see if Morgan plays well enough to warrant more time. At worst, we at least present Memphis with several different looks & give MAC teams something to ponder. I was thinking we'd end non-conference play at 1-3 (and I still am thinking that), but win or lose, this Memphis game is basically meaningless in the scheme of things. So, why not let 'em both play & see what we've got?
Hate to break this to you, but O$U's 3rd and 4th stringers are pretty much equal to your standard MAC 1st team talent.
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Redwingtom wrote: Hate to break this to you, but O$U's 3rd and 4th stringers are pretty much equal to your standard MAC 1st team talent.
We all know Bowling Green looked like freaking Oberlin College in Columbus a couple weeks ago, but too many MAC schools have gone into the Ohio Stadium and battled the Buckeyes hard for this to be true.
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Schadenfreude wrote:
Redwingtom wrote: Hate to break this to you, but O$U's 3rd and 4th stringers are pretty much equal to your standard MAC 1st team talent.
We all know Bowling Green looked like freaking Oberlin College in Columbus a couple weeks ago, but too many MAC schools have gone into the Ohio Stadium and battled the Buckeyes hard for this to be true.
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No question Urbie has raised the bar at OSU. When they beat "Bama in the playdowns a couple of years ago it wasn't just a case of a superior game plan winning...Urbie had better athletes on the field. They were stronger and faster. A few years back it would have been unheard of for a B1G contender to line up against the best of the SEC with better athletes.

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Redwingtom wrote:
threestooges wrote:
reyray82 wrote:I don't post often, but it did seem like the team responded to Morgan in the OSU game. The Kid has talent and confidence. The Offense has looked lethargic at times with Knapke. Knapke has poor accuracy and makes poor choices with the ball. We are looking at a 6 win team if a switch is not made soon.

I agree somewhat. However, as we all know, that was against OSU's 3rd- and 4th-stringers, and Morgan has thrown a pick-six in every game of his collegiate career.

I may be an idiot (actually, I *AM* an idiot), but I would alternate them by series. We're going to lose at Memphis no matter who plays, so why not give them both experience before we get into the MAC season? Let the QBs know that they'll each be playing every other series at Memphis, and see how it goes. At best, we see if Morgan plays well enough to warrant more time. At worst, we at least present Memphis with several different looks & give MAC teams something to ponder. I was thinking we'd end non-conference play at 1-3 (and I still am thinking that), but win or lose, this Memphis game is basically meaningless in the scheme of things. So, why not let 'em both play & see what we've got?
Hate to break this to you, but O$U's 3rd and 4th stringers are pretty much equal to your standard MAC 1st team talent.
Yes, I'm aware OSU is very good, and that Urban Meyer is one of the best coaches of all time. But, I did say I was an idiot, so I can see where you might assume I don't know anything.

Here's the thing, though: Our coaches see Knapke and Morgan every day in practice. Don't you think that, if it was even close, Morgan would be seeing a lot more playing time? My guess is that Knapke has been outperforming Morgan, or maybe Morgan has struggled to learn the offense or the playbook.

Whatever you think of our coaches, they are probably able to evaluate their team & see who the best players are. Again, though, I'm an idiot, so I could be wrong.
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reyray82 wrote: We are looking at a 6 win team if a switch is not made soon.
Hell, I would take 6 wins right now in a heart beat with whoever you put at quarterback. Do we really see this team winning five more games the rest of the year, regardless? Kent State, Buffalo and Miami will all be toss up games in my opinion. I hate to admit but we are in a full blown rebuild. Jinks needs to restock the cupboard like Clawson did. And remember, he got 5 years to do it.
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