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Dieter was a Clawson guy
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Flipper wrote:Dieter was a Clawson guy
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I'm just gonna leave this here.

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I wouldn't touch Briles for anything...bad news there.
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Roger Lewis visited and committed under Dave Clawson. Roger Lewis was rerecruited and stayed under Dino Babers. Dieter, Lewis, Burbrink, Moore, Redding were/are Clawson guys. Travis Greene. Johnson, Box all Clawson guys. The OL too. Last year's offense were nearly entirely Clawson players. One yr TE Lee and Scotty Miller would be exceptions. Partly understandable due to Coach Babers being here only two years.

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We'll find out who's the better coach this weekend...Clawson's Wake Forest takes on Dino and the 'Cuse. Clawson is two wins away from being bowl eligible.
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1. Art Briles would never come to BG...we'd be short on the salary. Maybe his kid would come, but Art will likely have a couple P5 jobs to choose from. Jimmy Sexton represents him now and he's really good at getting his guys opportunities.

2. Clawson vs Babers should be interesting. Neither team has beaten anyone worth much ...unless you count Wake beating Duke. I think Babers wins this one.
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Wake also beat Indiana. IU just knocked off MSU and they are looking good. Wilson may have finally found his groove at IU.
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Wake will win by 6....or if they hit Dino's team hard early..close to 60 :)
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I'll take Clawson in this one, only because he's in year three at Wake while Babers is just getting started in Cuse.
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Clawson and his coaches did a great job of recruiting. Create long term relationships and get the most out of his 2-3* recruits. Build a good defense until offense could catch up. Get a lead and control the clock. Not a bunch of fireworks, but efficient. Year 4 and 5 should be interesting as the players will be older and battle tested as BG 2013 team was.
Babers gives you the eye candy kind of flash. Will be able to take SU to a few bowl games, but will not be in the conversation with FSU, Clemson and Louisville. To much points given up and will continue to give up as D and Special teams are not priority as stated in other posts. The no discipline, pump myself up culture that is allowed might be the modern day Baylor in a few years. SU Beware....
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If I'm an AD at a P5 school with high academic standards like a Northwestern or even Notre Dame... I would look real closely at Clawson if I have a vacancy. He's built programs that win everywhere he goes with strong academics and few off field issues
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So my thoughts, not that they matter or anything, but I want to clear my mind of frustration.

For the past 2 seasons, we have been behind the 8 ball in recruiting, and it shows. Babers came in very late in the recruiting period and didn't have a true honest opportunity to recruit for the first season. Then last year he left and took some recruits with him, so essentially for 2 seasons we got a 50% recruiting effort at best.

To add to that problem, we lost 3 of our best and most consistent receivers, of which we truly only knew we were losing 1 for sure. If we only had to replace Burbs and still had Roger and Gehrig, I believe Jinks would have been just fine. The talent gap between those 2 and who we have now is unfortunate because we were spoiled with talent.

We are taking our lumps now and it's unfortunate, but I'm willing to give it a year or two and see how it turns out before completely writing this staff off.
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vwfalcon wrote:So my thoughts, not that they matter or anything, but I want to clear my mind of frustration.

For the past 2 seasons, we have been behind the 8 ball in recruiting, and it shows. Babers came in very late in the recruiting period and didn't have a true honest opportunity to recruit for the first season. Then last year he left and took some recruits with him, so essentially for 2 seasons we got a 50% recruiting effort at best.

To add to that problem, we lost 3 of our best and most consistent receivers, of which we truly only knew we were losing 1 for sure. If we only had to replace Burbs and still had Roger and Gehrig, I believe Jinks would have been just fine. The talent gap between those 2 and who we have now is unfortunate because we were spoiled with talent.

We are taking our lumps now and it's unfortunate, but I'm willing to give it a year or two and see how it turns out before completely writing this staff off.
THIS!!! Dino reportedly had his agent talking to schools last September! He knew what was coming this year and had no intention of being a part of it. We could have hired Urban back (not really but you get my point) and it would not have made a difference. We cannot commit to the ultra fast offense and leave the defense behind. That is just what Dino did and now we are paying for it. Knapke was not developed because Dino knew he would not be here to worry about it. Some of the current coaches are in a little over their heads, but the potential is there. We need time to refocus on a more traditional system on both sides of the ball. This year will be bad, and next year may as well. After that, let's see what happens.

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The up tempo offense can be an equalizer. I like the offense when it works and I'm not going to make Babers our scapegoat. The up tempo offense is just not our equalizer right now because other teams are adjusting or running faster themselves and our team is just so thin right now. I said it on another thread, we need to slow the pace down and focus more on a power running game in order to minimize the number of possessions our defense is on the field.
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