Good win, but for F**k's sake

[WhiteBarksdale]

For f**k's sake why did it take the coaching staff until the end of November to try some basic football with our young squad?

I mean, you get the job as HC of BGSU. First thing you do is look at the rosters, see what you have..
Two large items that stand out:
We have the most veteran offensive line in the country and it has some girth to it. We got some big boys. Cool.
Next we have 2 or 3 very solid running backs.

But no. Lets spread everyone out with our small wideouts who do not possess blazing speed? And let's have our senior QB who proved he lacks accuracy throw it to them 50 times a game. Even better lets not take any time off the clock for our smallish defense while we do this.

Then we will repeat this for 9 games.

And now here we are, two games later, and we've rushed for 300+ yards. 3 guys with a 100yds each. And we dominate a team that scared the conference star last week in WMU.

Im just dumbfounded, and excited again about our guys.

but like...wtf Jinks.

[Schadenfreude]

I hope you are right.

A more pessimistic view is that we were able to run the ball against Kent State and get the win, but that we really weren't ever going to be able to do that against Ohio or Miami.

I hope you are right. Perhaps we will learn more next week against Buffalo.

[jpfalcon09]

For f**k's sake why did it take the coaching staff until the end of November to try some basic football with our young squad?

I mean, you get the job as HC of BGSU. First thing you do is look at the rosters, see what you have..
Two large items that stand out:
We have the most veteran offensive line in the country and it has some girth to it. We got some big boys. Cool.
Next we have 2 or 3 very solid running backs.

But no. Lets spread everyone out with our small wideouts who do not possess blazing speed? And let's have our senior QB who proved he lacks accuracy throw it to them 50 times a game. Even better lets not take any time off the clock for our smallish defense while we do this.

Then we will repeat this for 9 games.

And now here we are, two games later, and we've rushed for 300+ yards. 3 guys with a 100yds each. And we dominate a team that scared the conference star last week in WMU.

Im just dumbfounded, and excited again about our guys.

but like...wtf Jinks.

Basically how I felt last night. Jinks mentioned after the game that the OL had been taking too many dumb penalties to warrant running the ball consistently, but it seemed like a cop out to me. I'll chalk it up to Jinks feeling pressure to come in and continue the up-tempo spread offense and hopefully it ends up being a valuable learning experience.

[Redwingtom]

Just one slight problem in all this. What they are now doing could actually be worse. Coaches have a philosophy. Jinks' is a spread and hi-tempo offense. If going forward he has not totally abandoned that philosophy for a more pro-style offense, he just wasted a hand-full of games that could have better been served with his actual system!

So next year, if he goes back to his spread and hi-tempo offense, he's back once again basically at square one!

What we need to find out is if he has totally changed his coaching philosophy going forward...or if he just abandoned it this year to win a couple games?

[jpfalcon09]

Just one slight problem in all this. What they are now doing could actually be worse. Coaches have a philosophy. Jinks' is a spread and hi-tempo offense. If going forward he has not totally abandoned that philosophy for a more pro-style offense, he just wasted a hand-full of games that could have better been served with this actual system!

So next year, if he goes back to his spread and hi-tempo offense, he's back once again basically at square one!

What we need to find out is if he has totally changed his coaching philosophy going forward...or if he just abandoned it this year to win a couple games?

He mentioned that he needed to figure out the team's identity. His fault for having it take nine games to realize what the team's strengths are. Common sense would've told you that with an inexperienced receiving corps it would've behooved him to commit more to the run earlier in the season. I'm not it changes his philosophy given what BG loses on the offensive line, but hopefully it'll mean a more balanced attack of things come 2017.

[Beaker]

Any coach who doesn't have an offensive philosophy that involves a healthy balance between run and pass needs to get a new philosophy.

[Roll Along!]

Just one slight problem in all this. What they are now doing could actually be worse. Coaches have a philosophy. Jinks' is a spread and hi-tempo offense. If going forward he has not totally abandoned that philosophy for a more pro-style offense, he just wasted a hand-full of games that could have better been served with his actual system!

So next year, if he goes back to his spread and hi-tempo offense, he's back once again basically at square one!

What we need to find out is if he has totally changed his coaching philosophy going forward...or if he just abandoned it this year to win a couple games?

Is he a spread and hi-tempo offense coach? My understanding is that he learned the spread offense at Texas Tech but may have been a bit more traditional as a head coach prior to that. He's admitted that he sees the benefits in playing with tempo, but has never been adamant about an offensive system that I am aware of.

I wonder if Kingston pressured him into the spread system. I wonder if he just said the right things to get the job but now we are seeing what his real vision for the offense is.

[Redwingtom]

Any coach who doesn't have an offensive philosophy that involves a healthy balance between run and pass needs to get a new philosophy.

And you explain Navy how?

[Flipper]

One of the things that caught Kingston's eye with this guy is he was supposed to be cut from that "go fast " cloth...he was a HS coach who became an associate HC in two years and he wants to go FAST!!!. That's what we were sold. if he's not married to "going fast"....why is he here again?

[jpfalcon09]

One of the things that caught Kingston's eye with this guy is he was supposed to be cut from that "go fast " cloth...he was a HS coach who became an associate HC in two years and he wants to go FAST!!!. That's what we were sold. if he's not married to "going fast"....why is he here again?

Because he was offered a job out of the blue to be a head coach at the FBS level and probably told Kingston what he wanted to hear?

What's funny is that one of the complaints about this season has been the offense going too fast. Some felt (myself included) it would be good to slow things down for Morgan to better reel in the game. I still think we'll see us run a tempo-style offense going into next season.

[Redwingtom]

John Wagner
‏@jwagnerblade John Wagner Retweeted
To paraphrase his (Jinks) answer (on spread vs. pro-style): Players will determine that. Right now players adapted better to run; he will bring in "passing" players.

[kdog27]

Perhaps a dumb question, perhaps not. Why does up tempo have to be primarily pass? Why can't someone come up with a tempo style that is run oriented. When you have 3 good running backs, I think it could be sustainable. I guess that would take some actual work instead of copying everybody else. Not saying all out run either, sprinkle passes in where there are mismatches and the situation warrants it.

Now that I think about it Auburn was running one a few years ago and it was absolutely explosive and nearly impossible to stop.. I thought for sure it would blow up and more teams would do it.

[Flipper]

My daughter's HS ...Bedford... (Go Mules!!) runs the veer and they run it with a quick tempo. Did pretty well with it because the QB is a freak athlete (going to UC for baseball) and he has a couple of decent backs to work with. I think you can pound the ball and go with a tempo...probably make Morgan more dangerous .

[Tech2000]

Next year we should have Done back. I was looking forward to seeing what he had to offer. Unfortunately he got cut early this year by that torn ACL. The only play I remember last year as a true freshman was against ball state where he went 97 yds for a TD and no one could cat h him. At about 6'and 190 makes a good option with Donovan. If all stay healthy and return we have a stable of horses that could carry that out

[WhiteBarksdale]

Someone mentioned it above.

Why does up tempo have to mean spread, 4-5 wide. It actually makes more sense biologically to run the ball with the up tempo offense, you get to take more advantage of a worn out defense. Physciallity.

The thing is Jinks has said in a pressed after Akron that his nature is to run the ball, ball control. Tressel ball.

I love it. I feels good to effing run it on people, especially a rival like Kent, and their "good d line".

OrangeandBrown calls it Ground Raid.

All Hail Ground Raid!

Also. Just because our o line is gonna graduate doesn't mean this is over. We got big young guys waiting.

Not saying abandon the pass. Of course not. When you throw it in Ground Raid, make it count, similar to Navy. Efficient routes.

Another thing.
There's no way Jinks didn't know the capability of our guys. All you have to do is put Donovan and Box next to the o line and look at all of them. I mean cmon. Fundamentals people.

With all that said.
BG wins next week. I live in Vegas and will put my money where my mouth is.