factman wrote:They mentioned on the broadcast today that one of the reasons ghe transferred was to prove to the NFL that he could play special teams. Very SMART kid, if that is the case, and he is playing on almost all of the special teams at Bama in addition to the offense. Definitely increases his odds of being drafted.
Living here I am subjected to most Bama's games. He might not be the go to guy in their offense but he is a big part of making it work. Also as mentioned he plays a lot on Special teams.
Whether he has a pro career or not he said that this was his dream school to play for so he's got to love the situation he is in.
factman wrote:They mentioned on the broadcast today that one of the reasons ghe transferred was to prove to the NFL that he could play special teams. Very SMART kid, if that is the case, and he is playing on almost all of the special teams at Bama in addition to the offense. Definitely increases his odds of being drafted.
That is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard a prospect say if that's true. The NFL isn't going to give a hoot if you can play special teams if you catch 12 balls and don't run well.
factman wrote:They mentioned on the broadcast today that one of the reasons ghe transferred was to prove to the NFL that he could play special teams. Very SMART kid, if that is the case, and he is playing on almost all of the special teams at Bama in addition to the offense. Definitely increases his odds of being drafted.
That is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard a prospect say if that's true. The NFL isn't going to give a hoot if you can play special teams if you catch 12 balls and don't run well.
They also don't care if you catch 90 passes and have 1,000 yards. Ask Redd, Magner, Sharon, Sanders, Barnes, Lewis and I'm likely forgetting someone. ...and if in your words he doesn't run well, then how in the hell is he getting drafted anway?
factman wrote:They mentioned on the broadcast today that one of the reasons ghe transferred was to prove to the NFL that he could play special teams. Very SMART kid, if that is the case, and he is playing on almost all of the special teams at Bama in addition to the offense. Definitely increases his odds of being drafted.
That is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard a prospect say if that's true. The NFL isn't going to give a hoot if you can play special teams if you catch 12 balls and don't run well.
If that is what you think, you better stick to basketball, globe. If you aren't one of the teams top 2-3 receivers, you better be able to play special teams in the NFL, to wait for your chance to "catch balls".
Yes...demonstrating an ability to play special teams is a critical factor in determining roster status for guy on the bubble. He could have done that here...I would assume...but he wouldn't have had the chance to get that big assed ring or hang out in a sweet football building like the one 'Bama has.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
He might have been too valuable on offense here to risk playing him on special teams, but I completely agree. Bama probably has 2-3 backups with near equal talent, so it isn't the factor there, that it would be at BG.
factman wrote:They mentioned on the broadcast today that one of the reasons ghe transferred was to prove to the NFL that he could play special teams. Very SMART kid, if that is the case, and he is playing on almost all of the special teams at Bama in addition to the offense. Definitely increases his odds of being drafted.
That is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard a prospect say if that's true. The NFL isn't going to give a hoot if you can play special teams if you catch 12 balls and don't run well.
If that is what you think, you better stick to basketball, globe. If you aren't one of the teams top 2-3 receivers, you better be able to play special teams in the NFL, to wait for your chance to "catch balls".
Yes you have to play special teams, but every single one of those WRs playing special teams has the talent potential to be one of the 1-3 guys on the roster. They may play special teams but they don't get drafted for special teams.
As far as numbers go they get you on the radar. At BG they would have let him play special teams and he could have gotten nearly 100 catches. I don't fault him for transferring. I do if this was his logic.
I agree it is ludicrous to think Dieter moved to have a better chance in the NFL as a special teams players. To me that is simply "agent talk." So, I didn't have many resources but since I unfortunately am a long time Lions fan, I did check their participation data from Sunday's game. Only two WRs played on Special Teams- 1. Andre Roberts who is the returner and 2. T.J. Jones who may have been the upman on returns as well. WRs simply do not play much on Special teams unless you are the returner or out there for the onside kick as one of the "hands team". You may get a look in an NFL camp otherwise but you better be one of the team's top 5 receivers. Dieter would have to prove a case as an NFL wideout and that is a longshot.
Roberts and Jones are the only "extra" WR the Lions carry. They aren't going to Play Tate, Marvin Jones or Boldin on ST..hell I think TJ was active only because Marvin was out this past week.
The Lions aren't the ideal team to cite in this case because most weeks (Thanks to Ebron and Riddick being downfield threats) they only have 3 WR and Roberts (return man) active.
It's not the fall that hurts...it's when you hit the ground.
Usually the 4-6 WRs play special teams. Often the 6 isn't active. The other two might cover kicks or return balls. Playing special teams will absolutely help your case to make a team. Going to Alabama to play special teams makes no sense because they don't look at you first and foremost to play special teams. TJ Jones and Andre Roberts were signed to be WRs first. They don't bring in guys just to play special teams. That's the side by. You have to show potential as a WR first and then as you wait your turn you better be flashing in practice and solid on teams. The goal isn't for you to stay on special teams. You either make your way up the roster or a new younger guy comes in and takes your spot. Unless you can return kicks. Which Deiter isn't going to do.
I bet he's getting noticed more starting for Alabama catching 20 passes then he would at BG catching 100 passes.
I don't think he came to Alabama to play special teams, I think he came to Alabama to play in front of 100,000 people and be in the prime time game nearly every week. Being a shoe each year for the playoff doesn't hurt either.
He's got a MACC and he's got a 94 reception season. He wouldn't have bettered those numbers or got another MACC with as putrid as we were the first half of the season.
*I don't know if he officially starts every game but I do know for a fact he is in the game for almost all the plays.
Globetrotter wrote:Usually the 4-6 WRs play special teams. Often the 6 isn't active. The other two might cover kicks or return balls. Playing special teams will absolutely help your case to make a team. Going to Alabama to play special teams makes no sense because they don't look at you first and foremost to play special teams. TJ Jones and Andre Roberts were signed to be WRs first. They don't bring in guys just to play special teams. That's the side by. You have to show potential as a WR first and then as you wait your turn you better be flashing in practice and solid on teams. The goal isn't for you to stay on special teams. You either make your way up the roster or a new younger guy comes in and takes your spot. Unless you can return kicks. Which Deiter isn't going to do.
Nobody says he was there to play ONLY special teams. He showed his "potential" (lol) to catch passes at BG!
By the way, he has already returned kickoffs this year for Bama!
By the way Vern or Gary, which ever one of those idiots said it was talking out of his ass. What they said was nothing more than an uninformed assumption, they said it like the only playing time he is getting is on ST.
