College Football Playoff Idea

[gmartin]

So after the Big 12 got snubbed again. No chance in hell for a non-power 5 team to make the playoffs. Penn State being conference Champs and not selected and ONLY 4 spots for the 5 major conferences it made me start thinking.

Why doesn't the NCAA just tear apart the Big 12 conference and make 4 Major Power Conferences. Each Power Conference (ACC, BIG 10, PAC-10 and SEC) go to 16 teams. So the Big 10 would add 2 teams from the Big 12. SEC would add 2. ACC would add 2. PAC-12 add 4.

Then the highest ranked/best team from each of those conferences goes into the playoffs. This way there is no bitching. Be the best team in your conference and make it to the playoffs. No more worrying what one conference may get left out.

The best team in each of the 4 conferences in the playoffs. The second best teams go to the Orange, Rose, Sugar and Fiesta).

Also each conference needs to play 10 conference games. Make the conference games mean more. Only 2 OOC games and against FBS opponents only.

The Group of 5 still goes to a major bowl. Since the 4 teams in the playoffs come from Power Conferences it's silly to have 5 conferences with 4 spots. They said yesterday that this current agreement is for 9 more seasons and they don't foresee increasing the number of teams so let's just go to 4 conferences and 1 team per conference.

[jpfalcon09]

So after the Big 12 got snubbed again. No chance in hell for a non-power 5 team to make the playoffs. Penn State being conference Champs and not selected and ONLY 4 spots for the 5 major conferences it made me start thinking.

Why doesn't the NCAA just teat apart the Big 12 conference and make 4 Major Power Conferences. Each Power Conference (ACC, BIG 10, PAC-10 and SEC) go to 16 teams. So the Big 10 would add 2 teams from the Big 12. SEC would add 2. ACC would add 2. PAC-12 add 4.

Then the highest ranked/best team from each of those conferences goes into the playoffs. This way there is no bitching. Be the best team in your conference and make it to the playoffs. No more worrying what one conference may get left out.

The best team in each of the 4 conferences in the playoffs. The second best teams go to the Orange, Rose, Sugar and Fiesta).

Also each conference needs to play 10 conference games. Make the conference games mean more. Only 2 OOC games and against FBS opponents only.

The Group of 5 still goes to a major bowl. Since the 4 teams in the playoffs come from Power Conferences it's silly to 5 have 5 conferences with 4 spots. They said yesterday that this current agreement is for 9 more seasons and they don't foresee increasing the number of teams so let's just go to 4 conferences and 1 team per conference.

College football is inching this way, albeit slowly. It'll probably take the B12 power brokers (OKLA, TEX) to make a move so the rest of the dominoes fall. The P5 playing only two OOC games though would have a rather large impact on the P5 and the budgets of schools.

[Schadenfreude]

Four rounds. Sixteen teams. Automatic bids to all conference champions. Six at-large bids to keep fans of Ohio State and Michigan happy. Every other division and subdivision already does it this way, more or less.

That's where FBS ought to go. It may take decades, but I think we will get here eventually. More playoff games would probably mean more money for somebody.

[gmartin]

Four rounds. Sixteen teams. Automatic bids to all conference champions. Six at-large bids to keep fans of Ohio State and Michigan happy. Every other division and subdivision already does it this way, more or less.

That's where FBS ought to go. It may take decades, but I think we will get here eventually. More playoff games would probably mean more money for somebody.

Think you would then need to eliminate 2 regular season games (1 home 1 road) and go back to 10 games. Asking an 18-20 year olds to play possibly 17 games in a season is alot.

[Flipper]

You are never going to see an extended playoff that lumps a non P5 champ in with a P5 champ. They have zero incentive to do that...zero. You are going to see Texas and OU join the B1G and the Big 12 die off. That opens the door to four 16 team leagues with the power structure getting the leeway to decide which four teams make the final four of their playoff...hell they could pick two SEC and 2 B1G and say they're doing that for the people who want to see the best.

We are never going to get a shot at that...never

[jpfalcon09]

You are never going to see an extended playoff that lumps a non P5 champ in with a P5 champ. They have zero incentive to do that...zero. You are going to see Texas and OU join the B1G and the Big 12 die off. That opens the door to four 16 team leagues with the power structure getting the leeway to decide which four teams make the final four of their playoff...hell they could pick two SEC and 2 B1G and say they're doing that for the people who want to see the best.

We are never going to get a shot at that...never

90% of FBS programs won't. The playoff will effectively monopolize college football to the same 10-15 schools every year. Programs like Illinois, UConn and the like will never get a sniff at a college football national title. The past three years are evidence enough of this.

[Globetrotter]

Four rounds. Sixteen teams. Automatic bids to all conference champions. Six at-large bids to keep fans of Ohio State and Michigan happy. Every other division and subdivision already does it this way, more or less.

That's where FBS ought to go. It may take decades, but I think we will get here eventually. More playoff games would probably mean more money for somebody.

Think you would then need to eliminate 2 regular season games (1 home 1 road) and go back to 10 games. Asking an 18-20 year olds to play possibly 17 games in a season is alot.

Dont the lower divisions do it?

[gmartin]

Believe Mt Union only plays 10 regular season games and with playoffs I think it's max is 14.

[gmartin]

I was correct. I just checked out Findlay, Defiance and then Powerhouse Mt Union and Wisconsin Whitewater. They all play 10 regular season games. No conference tournaments. So they play 10 regular season games and then playoffs.

[Globetrotter]

1 SEC Alabama 13-0 16 Sun Belt Appalachian St 9-3
8 AT Large Wisconsin 10-3 9 AT Large USC 9-3

4 PAC-12 Washington 12-1 13 American Temple 10-3
5 Big Ten Penn State 11-2 12 MAC Western Michigan 13-0

3 AT Large Ohio State 11-1 14 Mountain West San Diego St 10-3
6 AT Large Michigan 10-2 11 AT Large Florida St 9-3

2 ACC Clemson 12-1 15 Conference USA Western Kentucky 10-3
7 Big 12 Oklahoma 10-2 10 AT Large Colorado 10-3

[Globetrotter]

I was correct. I just checked out Findlay, Defiance and then Powerhouse Mt Union and Wisconsin Whitewater. They all play 10 regular season games. No conference tournaments. So they play 10 regular season games and then playoffs.

FCS does 11. If you win the Championship its 14-15.

http://www.fcs.football/info.asp?type=2016" target="_blank

[Schadenfreude]

Four rounds. Sixteen teams. Automatic bids to all conference champions. Six at-large bids to keep fans of Ohio State and Michigan happy. Every other division and subdivision already does it this way, more or less.

Think you would then need to eliminate 2 regular season games (1 home 1 road) and go back to 10 games. Asking an 18-20 year olds to play possibly 17 games in a season is alot.

They seem to be playing 11 games in FCS and Division II. Which would be fine.

[Schadenfreude]

You are never going to see an extended playoff that lumps a non P5 champ in with a P5 champ.

Ten years ago, it was inconceivable that Western Michigan would play in the Cotton Bowl and Northern Illinois would play in the Orange Bowl. And yet the BCS opened up its cruddy system just enough to allow this to happen. The G5, sticking together, has been able to win some gains -- in part because, without the G5, FBS probably wouldn't work as well. (Middling P5 schools wouldn't be able to run up records that are as gaudy, for example.)

To the extent that P5 schools are dissatisfied with the current system, that creates an opportunity for change by working with the G5 schools.

I agree it's a bad system and that a school like Ohio State has little reason to change it. I bet Michigan and Penn State fans would like some tweaks, though. At some point, this system will make enough enemies that change may happen.

[Flipper]

The Cotton Bowl is a meaningless trinket...a distraction from the fact that we start the season in Division 1 just like Ohio fricking State with no chance to make the finals...even if we win our conference. Hell..OSU makes it WITHOUT winning their conference. Need you have the disparity spelled out any more clearly?

In the past there was a tacit understanding that we'd have no chance at a national title...now it's a documented fact that we won't play because we have that bowl game that the talest midget in the non P5 gets to play in.

Zippity fu**ing doodah....

[gmartin]

I don't agree with conference champions to be the final word. OSU had a blocked punt, in terrible weather, oh the road, getting to the stadium late due to bus issues and PSU coming off a bye week where OSU came from road ay Wisconsin. If it wasn't for a blocked punt or conservative Urban Meyer OSU would be undefeated. PSU lost a home game to Pittsburgh? A 4 loss team. OSU beat 4 top 10 teams 2 on the road. And lost to #5. So I don't agree conference champ PSU was better than OSU and I dislike OSU. I'm Northwestern grad. So you are telling me if somehow Florida would beat Alabama a 4 loss Florida should have replaced Alabama. I still think eliminating the Big 12 and making 4 power 16 team conferences and 1 team per conference.