hiway44 wrote:Falconfan 1,
I agree with you about the Learning Common Center being available to ALL STUDENTS. I'm sorry but we are talking about our student athletes. Like Coach Jink said, its hard to believe the service for these kids is not there. Don't try to sugar coat what we DON'T have. Go to Toledo, They have a whole wing (bldg) for football learning. Hell they even have their own cafeteria for the football players. Miami, Ohio WM same. Don't make excuses for things we don't have and should! Our head coach has even pointed this out. Very sad and its only BG way of vetting kids from the program to save money.
I see rock bottom for this program if its' true. Say its not SO!
Not so.
If the students do not want to use the services available to them, then there is nothing I can do.
Coach Jinks came from Texas Tech. IF what he said is true, then the AD will tell him that he needs to temper his expectations because he is in the MAC. Wolfgang Puck is not going to be serving our student-athletes in a special all athlete cafeteria.
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Don't know enough about the issue at hand but if anything is say we have too much money going to student athlete services. I'd rather see that money go to the all student learning Commons, and if the athletes need more help then they can go there as well.
I realize athletes have crazy schedules and because of that they need services that are available to fit into that schedule, but I don't think they need dedicated tutors or dining facilities.
If anything having those support services building personal relationships with athletes can lead to some negative consequences.
Giving student-athletes special tutors and special cafeterias only lead to other issues. We going to give an athlete a house? Or a tractor? How about some hooked?
C'Mon man. BG has over 800 tutors. Maybe the hours these tutors are available don't fit into the football players schedules. Who knows but BG has plenty of resources for it's athletes.
hammb wrote:Don't know enough about the issue at hand but if anything is say we have too much money going to student athlete services. I'd rather see that money go to the all student learning Commons, and if the athletes need more help then they can go there as well.
I realize athletes have crazy schedules and because of that they need services that are available to fit into that schedule, but I don't think they need dedicated tutors or dining facilities.
If anything having those support services building personal relationships with athletes can lead to some negative consequences.
We posted nearly the same thing 1 minute apart. Crazy
The Learning Commons is open 69 hours a week and has tutoring for every subject. Athletics does provide tutoring for their athletes, but they don't have an endless budget. So, they spend their money trying to keep the high risk athletes eligible. The Learning Commons provides tutoring for every student, and if a tutor's schedule doesn't work with an athlete's schedule, all they have to do is speak up.
This is a sock puppet. Mentioning toledo often and the poor grammar says toledo student, might be taking a marketing class or just hateful.
Very common format: start complimentary, introduce false issue-add shock or melodrama, achieve responses, then lambaste BG. This one is really poor as the conversation isn’t even realistic but there’s one huge giveaway.
Not to say donations and support are not needed, they have always been necessary and important.
Flipper wrote:A few years one of the football players was on Twitter bitching because he and a couple other players could'nt use the Field house for extra practice because a Frisbee tournament was on. Never occurred to them that without the general fees paid by those Frisbee playing students...they wouldn't have a football to throw or a building to throw it in
The Frisbee fiasco was also set up a the the BGSU driving range as a sudden late in the summer addition. Many range members were turned away a few late afternoons a week because of them, I witnessed some heated complaints over there because of it. I'm fairly sure those BG players had been probably told they could use the field house anytime they wanted...
I have no doubt cuts are being made. I believe the department is not paying the piper for the last AD's overspending. Hopefully budgets will begin to be better aligned now.
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hiway44 wrote:Falconfan 1,
I agree with you about the Learning Common Center being available to ALL STUDENTS. I'm sorry but we are talking about our student athletes. Like Coach Jink said, its hard to believe the service for these kids is not there. Don't try to sugar coat what we DON'T have. Go to Toledo, They have a whole wing (bldg) for football learning. Hell they even have their own cafeteria for the football players. Miami, Ohio WM same. Don't make excuses for things we don't have and should! Our head coach has even pointed this out. Very sad and its only BG way of vetting kids from the program to save money.
I see rock bottom for this program if its' true. Say its not SO!
Why should the University hire extra tutors who are exclusively available to student-athletes? If you were to hire those tutors, would you allow them to tutor non-athletes when there aren't any athletes around? And the football players do have their own cafeteria, for all intents and purposes. They already get a private room in the dining hall. We certainly shouldn't build and staff an entire new dining area just for athletes, it's enormously inefficient. All the student-athletes have access to great learning support services. Why should we spend more money duplicating a service that we already provide?
