Dual-threat QB's just eat us alive

[BGSU33]

We we simply ripped apart by one last week vs South Dakota, and as Northwestern proved, even if your QB can simply roll out or keep the ball, we can be shredded that way too. For those thinking we won't see it again this season....wrong. Both of Ohio's QB's can do it and are running and passing better individually than BG is collectively at the position.

How often do we even prepare for the zone-read option? Because teams just kill us with it and we look like a deer in headlights up against it trying to defend it. We may not have given up 70-plus points like we did last year but we're still getting carved up while letting opposing QB's turn in career days.

[Flipper]

Ambulatory QB's with both arms and at least two connected brain cells eat us alive

[BGSU33]

Case in point today. Rourke only had 8 carries yet went for almost 150 averaging about 20 ypc and 3 of his 8 carries went for TD’s on runs BG never laid a finger on him.

[BGSU33]

This is all you need to know about how unprepare BG was for its opponent!

Following the game, Ohio QB Rourke said “BG didn't account for the QB in the run game.” Rourke said “he was basically ignored on those read looks until he kept a couple.” He said a few of his runs he was simply untouched and defense looked confused.

WTF man. Ohio has been running the same type of offense with dual threat QB for years now. How don’t we know it’s coming?!

[Schadenfreude]

Ohio's offense didn't look good at all in the first half, aside from one drive close to half time. That suggests to me that Perry Eliano did have them prepared, and that Ohio finally made some adjustments that worked for them.

[MarkL]

Locke said in his press conference regarding the 75 yard Rourke run that the defense was not expecting the QB run. Ohio had been doing the same zone read out of that heavy formation all half and always the QB handed the ball off. We had taken the lead and then on the ensuing first play, Rourke kept it on the same zone read and then 75 yards later the game is totally in Ohio's hands. Some thoughts ....
- the running back was picking up five and more yards on each of those carries. Ohio had the defense beat even without the QB run
- you weren't expecting the QB to keep it? You mean the QB who is the TD leader on the ground and who runs a lot in every game? If you weren't expecting the QB to keep it, you didn't know your opponent
- by only pursuing the RB and by defensively wearing out, the D played straight into Ohio's hand offensively. You had to know they were waiting to unleash the QB run. I sure knew it from the stands
- we were out-coached. Remember in 2013 against Buffalo when we were running a lot of zone reads? Johnson would hand off to Greene on every one of them. Even the announcers knew what the OC had in mind. Then at a crucial point in the game pinned way back, Johnson kept on the zone read and ran 50 or so yards on a drive which eventually led to points. BGSU out-coached Buffalo in that one. This time around, Ohio did the same to us. Out-coached by one of the best.

Now give credit where credit is due. The defense took care of business against the pass. Rourke hit I think under 40% of his passes with 2 interceptions. Their bread and butter is the run and that's what beat us, but the pass, we were ready.

[gmartin]

The run beat us and we were outcoached. Completely agree!

[Class of 61]

Our def. ends, especially our right side DEs, were eaten for lunch! And w/o run support from OLB or corners, the OU offense , which has basically been the same since came from Nebraska many yrs ago, simply wore the def. out.
Got to agree w/ earlier post... our MLB didn't "expect" a QB keep on the option? REALLY?

Coaching is virtually non existent.. or is our talent really this bad?

[MikeD]

If BG had a QB that could complete a deep pass, Ohio would not have been in any position to run the QB. They would have been blown out. The biggest problem with BG football right now is that the QB can't hit an open receiver. BG would win the MAC with Doege at QB. Everyone saw that in the one half he played. It's not a problem with coaching. It's a problem with having a QB with a strong arm who can't complete a pass.

[gmartin]

If BG had a QB that could complete a deep pass, Ohio would not have been in any position to run the QB. They would have been blown out. The biggest problem with BG football right now is that the QB can't hit an open receiver. BG would win the MAC with Doege at QB. Everyone saw that in the one half he played. It's not a problem with coaching. It's a problem with having a QB with a strong arm who can't complete a pass.

You saw him play one half? Where were you the other 5 QUARTERS he played??? He is better than Morgan but saying he would win the MAC, unrealistic.

[MarkL]

Many of those deep shot incompletions were drops by receivers, they were not all on Morgan.
There were plenty of drops to go around. I think there were six deep shots IIRC. If you miss on one or two, it can be player mistakes. All six when throwing deep was clearly the game plan? That's lack of preparation, and preparation is the job of the coaches.

[kdog27]

Win the MAC? Come on man

[Schadenfreude]

The biggest problem with BG football right now is that the QB can't hit an open receiver.

Agreed.

[Schadenfreude]

Many of those deep shot incompletions were drops by receivers, they were not all on Morgan.
There were plenty of drops to go around. I think there were six deep shots IIRC. If you miss on one or two, it can be player mistakes. All six when throwing deep was clearly the game plan? That's lack of preparation, and preparation is the job of the coaches.

I respectfully disagree.

We can probably agree that Datrin Guyton was a complete mess out there. He dropped the ball at least three times, and the Ohio pick six might have been in part due to Guyton running the wrong route.

But as for the other Falcon receivers: They were consistently open on fly routes, and Morgan just couldn't get them the ball. They weren't even dropping the ball, for the most part. (A possible exception: the Phouthavong catch taken away on review.) Morgan just wasn't getting the ball to wide open receivers.

This isn't about coaching or preparation.

[Clubber]

This isn't about coaching or preparation.

Part of coaching and preparation is 1. Developing players and 2. Gameplanning to put those players in successful situations.

I didn't watch more than 10 mins of the Ohio game, but I haven't seen any of that on the offensive side of the ball previously. Defensively the team is improved, but it is nothing better than a below avg MAC defense.