View of coach Jinks from a veteran football coach

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hammb wrote:. . . perfect coach to wallow in the suck. . .
Never before in history have those seven words been used in that order.

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Just last year, around this time, Morgan was the future. Everything was going to great because of Morgan. Now, Morgan is shot, we have a new savior at QB, and we are doing deep analysis into the 2014 recruiting class to find hope. Here is reality, Bowling Green is a 17 point dog at home to the arch rival. PATHETIC
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Hahahahahahaha! You select few that blame Babers for this team being horrible is mind boggling ridiculous. Thanks for the good laugh, everytime I have to read your nonsense, and cheers! :lol: :partyman:
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CrazyFan wrote:Hahahahahahaha! You select few that blame Babers for this team being horrible is mind boggling ridiculous. Thanks for the good laugh, everytime I have to read your nonsense, and cheers! :lol: :partyman:
I don't blame him, but his recruiting is part of the problem. I don't know if Jinks will be the guy. If he's not and he has several good recruiting classes, then the next coach will be in position to win. I'll read these posts and continue to cheer on the team.
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Morgan always carried that INT issue...even when he had an otherwise good game...he'd throw one or tow of those "WTF was he seeing" INT's. Doege seems like a much more accurate passer and he seems to know what color jersey he's supposed to throw to on each play.

Knapke and Morgan BOTH missed a ton of throws..even on completions they were often a hair off. Haven't seen as much of that wirth Doege...so there's hope if we can keep him upright and healthy
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hammb wrote:Babers was not a great recruiter, but he was a damned good coach.

Jinks may be a good recruiter, but doesn't look like he could coach his way out of a wet paper bag.


I'll take the better coach any day. I'd much rather listen to Babers talk than clueless Jinks. And I'd much rather watch Babers teams than Jinks' teams. Jinks may eventually build a program here and learn how to coach, but right now he looks completely lost. We'll see how great his recruiting is if he cannot figure out how to actually win games.

More likely to me is not that Babers couldn't recruit or left us in some trainwreck. More likely to me is that Babers recruited kids that could play and win with his style of football. Jinks has no clue how to build an offense like that and that renders a lot of Dino's recruits less useful than they would have been to him. It sucks that we only got 2 years of that style of football, but it was a helluva 2 years. Beats the hell out of what we've got now where I don't even know what day of the week we play until I see a "game thread"
SPOT ON.

We are watching a glorified high school coach running a mid major program...or maybe that should read RUINING, not running. I'm not sure you can simply recruit yourself into a winning team. I've seen too many teams with loads of talent lose continually -- and I've also seen teams with very average talent rise up and beat almost everyone, simply because they had an excellent coach.

I will also take a great coach over a great recruiter -- every time. When a coach cannot develop the schemes and plays to put his players in a position to succeed, he shouldn't BE the head coach. That is what you have with Jinks. And until I see otherwise ON THE FIELD, I won't expect things to get any better.

This was, arguably, one of the worst hires in the history of the BG football program. I don't see that changing in the next couple years, either. Sadly, I think we continue to get our butts whipped until the trainwreck that is our head coach is no longer on the sideline, and someone who can actually put a team together takes over.

I truly hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
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"I'd rather have a lot of talent and a little experience than a lot of experience and a little talent." -- John Wooden

Talent trumps all. PJ Fleck is not known as a great tactician of the game and he has even admitted as much. But his overwhelming talent at WMU was unbeatable. There's a difference between being a "Coach" (running and being the face of a program) and being a "Tactician". By most accounts, Jinks is a good "Coach" but not a good "Tactician". Put people around you who know the Xs and Os (this is Jinks' biggest issue IMO) and everything else will come together.
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Roll Along! wrote:"I'd rather have a lot of talent and a little experience than a lot of experience and a little talent." -- John Wooden

Talent trumps all. PJ Fleck is not known as a great tactician of the game and he has even admitted as much. But his overwhelming talent at WMU was unbeatable. There's a difference between being a "Coach" (running and being the face of a program) and being a "Tactician". By most accounts, Jinks is a good "Coach" but not a good "Tactician". Put people around you who know the Xs and Os (this is Jinks' biggest issue IMO) and everything else will come together.
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This idea that PJ Fleck can't coach is as ridiculous as the comparisons of Jinks to Fleck. Fleck won the game in Toledo that gift wrapped a BG MAC Title. Fleck went 12-0 in the much tougher MAC West. Meanwhile, Solich is treated as a great coach, after losing that East division pillow fight last night.
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John Wooden could coach
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guest44 wrote:This idea that PJ Fleck can't coach is as ridiculous as the comparisons of Jinks to Fleck. Fleck won the game in Toledo that gift wrapped a BG MAC Title. Fleck went 12-0 in the much tougher MAC West. Meanwhile, Solich is treated as a great coach, after losing that East division pillow fight last night.
Fleck had a bad first year, and many were upset with his antics. The whole "Row the Boat," rubbed many in a wrong way, and his initial results were poor. His second year, he made great improvement, but took a step back in year 3. Last year he put together a great season, and used that to cash in on a pay day. We will see how good of a coach he is at Minnesota, and if he can continue to pull in recruits.

As far as Solich goes, the man won the Big 12. He's been pretty solid and consistent at OU, but you're correct he has not elevated the program on a consistent basis.
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guest44 wrote:This idea that PJ Fleck can't coach is as ridiculous as the comparisons of Jinks to Fleck. Fleck won the game in Toledo that gift wrapped a BG MAC Title. Fleck went 12-0 in the much tougher MAC West. Meanwhile, Solich is treated as a great coach, after losing that East division pillow fight last night.
This. FLeck is coaching up a Minnesota team that really doesn't have that much talent. Give him a little time to improve that roster, and he's going to have Minnesota challenging for Big Ten West division title within two years. Given their rivalry with Wisconsin, it will be very interesting to see how he does in that series.
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