Kent State

michhiker28 · Post by **michhiker28** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:52 pm

Kent Read, Kent Write, Kent State 26 - BGSU 25 Half

mbenecke · Post by **mbenecke** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:55 pm

This is a game against a poor team, and we need to win it.

Meh first half, gotta be stronger in the 2nd half.

michhiker28 · Post by **michhiker28** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:27 pm

BG 40 Kent 38 at the end of 3.

michhiker28 · Post by **michhiker28** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:37 pm

49-46 BG up at the media timeout.

Toledo up on Ball State
CMU up on NIU

Class of 61 · Post by **Class of 61** » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:59 pm

60-50 BGSU! Nice finish, good job of keeping #1 scorer in MAC in check.

elmrfudd · Post by **elmrfudd** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:44 am

Good win, but this Falcon team was terribly pathetic on finishing their bunny shots in close to the basket. Is it not common sense that if you want to make a shot in basketball that you should look at the basket while you shoot? A layup takes just as much concentration to make as a three-pointer. We have made a habit of throwing up nothing more than a wing on a prayer when we get close to the basket! LOOK AT THE BASKET WHEN YOU SHOOT AND ITS CHANCES OF GOING IN ARE MUCH HIGHER! The inability to finish inside is a failure of the coaching staff to implement fundamental shooting techniques. This is another serious issue that needs to be taught and ironed out in practice. It pains me to continue to see this team play another game displaying yet another aspect of fundamental unsoundness! Coaches, please do your jobs and teach this team how to shoot layups.........if you know how, that is!

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:30 am

Since Saturday we are 2-0 in games we should win. It looks we've separated from the dregs of the conference as opposed to the last two years when we were the dregs of the conference. I will view that as progress

mbenecke · Post by **mbenecke** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:02 am

I will view this season as a success if the team shows that they can win the games they are supposed to, and be competitive again slightly high competition. We've already passed last year's win total by 2, and there's still more than a month left this season. They just gotta be more consistent, and they'll start winning more ball games.

Class of 61 · Post by **Class of 61** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 1:13 pm

elmrfudd wrote:Good win, but this Falcon team was terribly pathetic on finishing their bunny shots in close to the basket. Is it not common sense that if you want to make a shot in basketball that you should look at the basket while you shoot? A layup takes just as much concentration to make as a three-pointer. We have made a habit of throwing up nothing more than a wing on a prayer when we get close to the basket! LOOK AT THE BASKET WHEN YOU SHOOT AND ITS CHANCES OF GOING IN ARE MUCH HIGHER! The inability to finish inside is a failure of the coaching staff to implement fundamental shooting techniques. This is another serious issue that needs to be taught and ironed out in practice. It pains me to continue to see this team play another game displaying yet another aspect of fundamental unsoundness! Coaches, please do your jobs and teach this team how to shoot layups.........if you know how, that is!

Don't disagree with you on much of what you've said... we missed a BUNCH underneath stuff. That said, I've seen definite improvement from our bigs in other areas. Better overall def. led to keeping a kid who averages 21ppg to 7 last nite. Biggest problem I DO see is a lack of control when heading to the hoop, resulting in missed layups, offensive charging fouls etc.
We're heading to campus on Sat. to see the doubleheader. First " in person " look this year and hoping for a sweep, IF we continue to play as last few games ( both teams) have shown.

elmrfudd · Post by **elmrfudd** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:37 pm

I'm not downplaying any wins we can get, but I've mentioned to others that if Curt Miller were coaching this team, we'd be leading the MAC. I believe Jennifer Roos has recruited well, but what bothers me the most is to see so many very talented players not even coming close to realizing their full potential as basketball players. Does anyone here know if this team even practices with a men's practice squad anymore? If not, they should. I believe this team, and others to come in the future, would greatly benefit from a basketball skills and drills camp like one taught by Stephen Cramer. I've talked to this guy and have seen him in action, and he is the real deal! http://cramerbasketball.com/" target="_blank I really believe that if our coaching staff would implement Mr. Cramer's teachings, our program would go to the next level in a short time.

Hockey John · Post by **Hockey John** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 2:57 pm

elmrfudd wrote:Good win, but this Falcon team was terribly pathetic on finishing their bunny shots in close to the basket. Is it not common sense that if you want to make a shot in basketball that you should look at the basket while you shoot? A layup takes just as much concentration to make as a three-pointer. We have made a habit of throwing up nothing more than a wing on a prayer when we get close to the basket! LOOK AT THE BASKET WHEN YOU SHOOT AND ITS CHANCES OF GOING IN ARE MUCH HIGHER! The inability to finish inside is a failure of the coaching staff to implement fundamental shooting techniques. This is another serious issue that needs to be taught and ironed out in practice. It pains me to continue to see this team play another game displaying yet another aspect of fundamental unsoundness! Coaches, please do your jobs and teach this team how to shoot layups.........if you know how, that is!

Have you taken the time to go to a practice to see what is talked about, taught, and worked on? It was obvious to most that the coaching staff had the team prepared especially defensively. We held Jordan Korinek, Kent's senior post to seven points. She averages 20.4 a game this season. We did that with a redshirt freshman post just coming back from an injury, a true freshman post, also coming back from an injury. and a sophomore post. Clare Glowniak, Angela Perry, and Jane Uecker played great defense last night. Yes, they missed easy shots, but they will continue to grow with experience, practice, and improved fitness and health.

It is obvious that you dislike this coaching staff a great deal. I believe that this staff can get it turned around. You dismiss the injuries from the past. Those injuries impacted not only that season, but the next one as well. They impacted on the wins and losses, as well as future depth of the team. I will continue to support this team and coaching staff. I will support them by my attendance at the home games and at the road games that I can attend. I will support them with words of encouragement on their successes. To use your famous line, this is just my opinion.

Class of 61 · Post by **Class of 61** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:04 pm

Elmer Fudd,

Only dissent I'd have with you is that MAC women's ball is radically improved overall, in part big thanks going to Curt and his dominant teams of early/ mid 10's.
CMU, Ball State, TU, OU, Buffalo, NIU, and even KSU are, IMO, very much improved in recent yrs., making it harder to win. This does NOT, however, excuse current BG coaching staff to meet the challenges.
I honestly believe part of the problem lies in the overall lack of experienced asst. coaches on staff, plus the fact that there's already been a turnover there in last 2-3 yrs. I was actually pleased to see one of assts actually COACHING kids late in game huddle w/ Roos standing aside,, then stepping in, similar to what Curt used to do. Will be interested in seeing if this holds true on Sat. As I've said, we're coming up for 1st in person games.

Roll Along! · Post by **Roll Along!** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:34 pm

elmrfudd wrote:I'm not downplaying any wins we can get, but I've mentioned to others that if Curt Miller were coaching this team, we'd be leading the MAC. I believe Jennifer Roos has recruited well, but what bothers me the most is to see so many very talented players not even coming close to realizing their full potential as basketball players. Does anyone here know if this team even practices with a men's practice squad anymore? If not, they should. I believe this team, and others to come in the future, would greatly benefit from a basketball skills and drills camp like one taught by Stephen Cramer. I've talked to this guy and have seen him in action, and he is the real deal! http://cramerbasketball.com/" target="_blank I really believe that if our coaching staff would implement Mr. Cramer's teachings, our program would go to the next level in a short time.

The curse of Coach Roos is having to follow in Curt Miller's shoes. You are comparing her against someone who is considered one of the greatest basketball coaches in the world. Of course she's going to have a hard time living up to that standard. We were so, so lucky to have Curt Miller. Comparing her to Curt just isn't fair.

That being said, I've been frustrated by the program the last few years. Bringing up injuries that happened three years ago just isn't an excuse anymore. It was a horrible rash of injuries then, but the program is not feeling the affects of those injuries anymore. That's not a decent excuse. But this program is taking small steps in the right direction. Hopefully, we will continue to see those steps (I don't expect to see big steps anytime soon, but small ones are good enough right now) and not giant steps backwards again.

elmrfudd · Post by **elmrfudd** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:45 pm

The fact that Coach Roos was Curt Miller's assistant/associate for twelve years should be a critical factor in what Coach Roos has done, is doing, and will do as a coach. Jennifer Roos has seen it, tasted it, and been absorbed by it for all those years. She's been there, done that with Curt. She has seen first hand what has made Curt successful. Due to that fact, it is NOT wrong to compare the two. There's been such a massive deviation between the way Curt did things and the way Jennifer does things. And if you take a good look, there's also a massive deviation in the results each coach has gotten. And in reply to Hockey John, I know about the MAC's leading scorer only scored 7 points. I said not one thing in my previous posts on this thread about poor defense. My issue was with missed shots inside. And no, I have not gone to their practices. It would have been easier to deal with if the Falcons would have slid down the MAC ladder a few rungs after Miller left, but to spend so long at the top and then slide down a greased pole to the cellar, that is not acceptable. Also, I have absolutely no dislike for the coaching staff, but only for their performance, or lack thereof, in trying to make this team successful. If the buck doesn't stop with the coaching staff, then I would ask who is to blame for the 3+ consecutive dismal seasons we've been seeing? Again, my honest opinion!

Hawk thrower · Post by **Hawk thrower** » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:28 pm

Totally agree elmrfudd! When a coach is making nearly $300,000.00 a year - they should be producing results.

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