2018-2019 Postseason Recruiting

[guest44]

I'm not sure which is more humorous. A guy choosing to play at Ashland over the D1 program you root for, or having a player declare for the NBA draft that has a 0.000000% chance of getting drafted. All of this after a 6 game losing streak to end the season, and your NBA big man was on the bench because he was a bad matchup for Central Michigan. Now let's wait to see what 6'0" and under PG's are brought in to fill out the roster.

[mbenecke]

Wiggins was always coming back. He wants to be evaluated. There's literally nothing wrong with that.

Koch leaving hurts, but it's not unexpected. He has other values that are more important to him than starring at a D1 MAC School.

Some people on here really just need to relax. These players are more worried about their livelihoods than about the Bowling Green fans, and that's okay. They are people, and they deserve the right to do what is best for them.

Just relax, people. Some of you act like it's our way or the highway.

[guest44]

Should we be 7 years of Louis Orr relaxed, or 6 years of Michael Huger relaxed? Either or results in bottom 4 finishes, and not seeing Cleveland. Should we relax and watch all of the Frack money (if any actually goes to) just disappear in the wind? Bowling Green basketball is the definition of relaxed. Most fans have been relaxed for 50 years. Orr put them to sleep, Jans woke them up for about a minute, and Huger is laughing them back to sleep.

How does a coaching staff have such a difficult time handing out Division 1 scholarships?

[Globetrotter]

Should we be 7 years of Louis Orr relaxed, or 6 years of Michael Huger relaxed? Either or results in bottom 4 finishes, and not seeing Cleveland. Should we relax and watch all of the Frack money (if any actually goes to) just disappear in the wind? Bowling Green basketball is the definition of relaxed. Most fans have been relaxed for 50 years. Orr put them to sleep, Jans woke them up for about a minute, and Huger is laughing them back to sleep.

How does a coaching staff have such a difficult time handing out Division 1 scholarships?

I'll take one

[hammb]

I don't fault any of the kids that are leaving, and I wish them all the best where ever their future may take them. Obviously they have more concerns than BG basketball, as well they should. I fully expect THEIR lives/hopes/dreams/goals are far more important to them, than the wishes of BG fans regarding BG basketball.

However, I (like many) lived through the Dakich 2.0 years where we lost 2-3 players every offseason. In many cases those losses were Freshmen who contributed only minimally, so each individual transfer was "no big deal." But the end result was that the program NEVER gained any forward momentum at all. Every year we were trying to integrate 4-5 new players into the mix. The kids that DID stick around were typically the hard working lunchpail types that largely didn't have D1 talent in the first place. We never developed a team or individual players that could make us any threat to compete in the MAC tourney.

Then we got 7 years of Orr, who didn't suffer transfers, but rarely recruited anybody that deserved to play on a D1 floor.

Now he we are again. Our roster was horribly flawed for the '17 season, and we've just lost several transfers that were expected to play big roles in this team. The '18-19 season is already looking like a lost cause, because we are desperately scrambling just to fill out a roster. This, in Huger's 4th year. A coach that has taken the program exactly 0 steps forward since he stepped on campus.

Yeah, I don't think it's fair to ask anybody to "relax" or "just chill" or whatever term you want to use. BG basketball has been mediocrity defined for 50 years. It's been less than mediocre over the past 15 years. And every time things look shitty the university expects us to "just relax" because they aren't willing to make the moves required to move the program forward.

[CrazyFan]

Wiggins was always coming back. He wants to be evaluated. There's literally nothing wrong with that.

Koch leaving hurts, but it's not unexpected. He has other values that are more important to him than starring at a D1 MAC School.

Some people on here really just need to relax. These players are more worried about their livelihoods than about the Bowling Green fans, and that's okay. They are people, and they deserve the right to do what is best for them.

Just relax, people. Some of you act like it's our way or the highway.

I love it!! The new guy is telling everyone to relax. Like a new Enron Board Member hired in the summer of 2001 – “Relax, we’ll be fine”. Sit through 15 years of this ineptness, watching the program get totally mishandled year after year, and then have a someone come tell you to relax. Its tough to swallow mbenecke.

I’ve been saying for years that this athletic department is a complete dumpster fire. The once proud football and woman’s basketball programs are now the door mats of the MAC. And the men’s basketball program has been given all the opportunities in the world to succeed with a brand-new arena as well as the all that Frack money, and the athletic department continues to misuse the Frack money and allow this program to wallow in mediocrity by allowing bad head coaching hires to continue to bury the program deeper and deeper every year.

And I have zero trust that Moose is the guy to fix any of it. He’s a face for the athletic department and nothing more. No balls, and no it didn’t take a lot of balls to fire Roos when she should have been fired 2 years ago. He will continue to allow these programs to be terrible instead of getting his hands dirty and discovering the avenue to ridding himself of the dead weights Mike Jinx and Michael Huger (and believe me, there is a way; always is). He’s already muffing the Women’s Basketball Search by not reeling in Fralick by now. A good, strong AD would have had her signed, sealed and delivered by now.

[Flipper]

[mbenecke]

Lol. You all make good points. As the young guy, maybe I'm just naive to believe that everything is going to be okay. I haven't experienced 50 years of heartache because, well, I've only been alive for 20 years. I wouldn't call myself the new guy, because I've been one of the more active members of this site for nearly a year now, but that's your opinion.

I just think attacking our own guys for personal decisions is wrong. Questioning their decisions isn't the sign of a healthy fanbase. I understand that there is frustration about not being at the top. I'm not someone that thinks losing is fun. I guess I just think it takes time to find the right guys to build a program. I want to start seeing results from our guys next year, but I understand that rebuilding a program takes some time and it likely has to get ugly before it can be fine again.

I appreciate everyone's right to an opinion on here. Let's just not forget that these guys are 18-22 years old, and there is more to life than just their sport to them.

[Flipper]

Wiggins was always coming back. He wants to be evaluated. There's literally nothing wrong with that.

Koch leaving hurts, but it's not unexpected. He has other values that are more important to him than starring at a D1 MAC School.

Some people on here really just need to relax. These players are more worried about their livelihoods than about the Bowling Green fans, and that's okay. They are people, and they deserve the right to do what is best for them.

Just relax, people. Some of you act like it's our way or the highway.

I love it!! The new guy is telling everyone to relax. Like a new Enron Board Member hired in the summer of 2001 – “Relax, we’ll be fine”. Sit through 15 years of this ineptness, watching the program get totally mishandled year after year, and then have a someone come tell you to relax. Its tough to swallow mbenecke.

I’ve been saying for years that this athletic department is a complete dumpster fire. The once proud football and woman’s basketball programs are now the door mats of the MAC. And the men’s basketball program has been given all the opportunities in the world to succeed with a brand-new arena as well as the all that Frack money, and the athletic department continues to misuse the Frack money and allow this program to wallow in mediocrity by allowing bad head coaching hires to continue to bury the program deeper and deeper every year.

And I have zero trust that Moose is the guy to fix any of it. He’s a face for the athletic department and nothing more. No balls, and no it didn’t take a lot of balls to fire Roos when she should have been fired 2 years ago. He will continue to allow these programs to be terrible instead of getting his hands dirty and discovering the avenue to ridding himself of the dead weights Mike Jinx and Michael Huger (and believe me, there is a way; always is). He’s already muffing the Women’s Basketball Search by not reeling in Fralick by now. A good, strong AD would have had her signed, sealed and delivered by now.

He does exactly what you want him to do by ridding the University of a failing coach (Roos) and then you blast him and say he doesn't "have balls". You're an anonymous troll online and you call someone out for lacking balls? He hasn't "reeled in" your choice yet? What if she's hired this week or a better option is hired...will he lack balls then?

[CrazyFan]

Wiggins was always coming back. He wants to be evaluated. There's literally nothing wrong with that.

Koch leaving hurts, but it's not unexpected. He has other values that are more important to him than starring at a D1 MAC School.

Some people on here really just need to relax. These players are more worried about their livelihoods than about the Bowling Green fans, and that's okay. They are people, and they deserve the right to do what is best for them.

Just relax, people. Some of you act like it's our way or the highway.

I love it!! The new guy is telling everyone to relax. Like a new Enron Board Member hired in the summer of 2001 – “Relax, we’ll be fine”. Sit through 15 years of this ineptness, watching the program get totally mishandled year after year, and then have a someone come tell you to relax. Its tough to swallow mbenecke.

I’ve been saying for years that this athletic department is a complete dumpster fire. The once proud football and woman’s basketball programs are now the door mats of the MAC. And the men’s basketball program has been given all the opportunities in the world to succeed with a brand-new arena as well as the all that Frack money, and the athletic department continues to misuse the Frack money and allow this program to wallow in mediocrity by allowing bad head coaching hires to continue to bury the program deeper and deeper every year.

And I have zero trust that Moose is the guy to fix any of it. He’s a face for the athletic department and nothing more. No balls, and no it didn’t take a lot of balls to fire Roos when she should have been fired 2 years ago. He will continue to allow these programs to be terrible instead of getting his hands dirty and discovering the avenue to ridding himself of the dead weights Mike Jinx and Michael Huger (and believe me, there is a way; always is). He’s already muffing the Women’s Basketball Search by not reeling in Fralick by now. A good, strong AD would have had her signed, sealed and delivered by now.

He does exactly what you want him to do by ridding the University of a failing coach (Roos) and then you blast him and say he doesn't "have balls". You're an anonymous troll online and you call someone out for lacking balls? He hasn't "reeled in" your choice yet? What if she's hired this week or a better option is hired...will he lack balls then?

Yes, I wanted Roos fired, but I wanted him to do that 1 year ago. Kingston should have done it 2 years ago. That program has been junk for 4 years now. It doesn’t take a genius to see a change needed made, yet they let her stick around all those years. And I say he doesn’t “have balls”, because he’s taking the easy, non-confrontational way and letting two unqualified coaches in Jinx and Huger stick around and allowing them to continue to sink each of their programs.

“Balls” would be to realize what many people have already realized, that they are not taking the programs in the direction they should be going, and having the fortitude to make the necessary changes, and have the willingness to turn over every stone to accomplish those “impossible” buyouts. You don’t knowingly let bad coaches stick around to make your programs worse. It’s a freaking embarrassment!!

And if he still hires Fralick, then great!! And if he hires a better coach (if there is even one, reading the posts on the Womens B-ball forum), then great!! But a lot of people would agree that Fralick is the slam dunk hire for the program with her roots and success in this area, and if he’s slow playing this, it might come back to bite him in the azz.

All I ask is he doesn’t hire the coach that NO OTHER TEAM is interested in, that that coach have some kind of head coaching experience, and that he gives him/her a contract that’s in line with their experience. None of those were met with the current Football and Men’s Basketball coaches, and both those programs are train wrecks as well.

[Class of 61]

Wiggins was always coming back. He wants to be evaluated. There's literally nothing wrong with that.

Koch leaving hurts, but it's not unexpected. He has other values that are more important to him than starring at a D1 MAC School.

Some people on here really just need to relax. These players are more worried about their livelihoods than about the Bowling Green fans, and that's okay. They are people, and they deserve the right to do what is best for them.

Just relax, people. Some of you act like it's our way or the highway.

I love it!! The new guy is telling everyone to relax. Like a new Enron Board Member hired in the summer of 2001 – “Relax, we’ll be fine”. Sit through 15 years of this ineptness, watching the program get totally mishandled year after year, and then have a someone come tell you to relax. Its tough to swallow mbenecke.

I’ve been saying for years that this athletic department is a complete dumpster fire. The once proud football and woman’s basketball programs are now the door mats of the MAC. And the men’s basketball program has been given all the opportunities in the world to succeed with a brand-new arena as well as the all that Frack money, and the athletic department continues to misuse the Frack money and allow this program to wallow in mediocrity by allowing bad head coaching hires to continue to bury the program deeper and deeper every year.

And I have zero trust that Moose is the guy to fix any of it. He’s a face for the athletic department and nothing more. No balls, and no it didn’t take a lot of balls to fire Roos when she should have been fired 2 years ago. He will continue to allow these programs to be terrible instead of getting his hands dirty and discovering the avenue to ridding himself of the dead weights Mike Jinx and Michael Huger (and believe me, there is a way; always is). He’s already muffing the Women’s Basketball Search by not reeling in Fralick by now. A good, strong AD would have had her signed, sealed and delivered by now.

He does exactly what you want him to do by ridding the University of a failing coach (Roos) and then you blast him and say he doesn't "have balls". You're an anonymous troll online and you call someone out for lacking balls? He hasn't "reeled in" your choice yet? What if she's hired this week or a better option is hired...will he lack balls then?

Yes, I wanted Roos fired, but I wanted him to do that 1 year ago. Kingston should have done it 2 years ago. That program has been junk for 4 years now. It doesn’t take a genius to see a change needed made, yet they let her stick around all those years. And I say he doesn’t “have balls”, because he’s taking the easy, non-confrontational way and letting two unqualified coaches in Jinx and Huger stick around and allowing them to continue to sink each of their programs.

“Balls” would be to realize what many people have already realized, that they are not taking the programs in the direction they should be going, and having the fortitude to make the necessary changes, and have the willingness to turn over every stone to accomplish those “impossible” buyouts. You don’t knowingly let bad coaches stick around to make your programs worse. It’s a freaking embarrassment!!

And if he still hires Fralick, then great!! And if he hires a better coach (if there is even one, reading the posts on the Womens B-ball forum), then great!! But a lot of people would agree that Fralick is the slam dunk hire for the program with her roots and success in this area, and if he’s slow playing this, it might come back to bite him in the azz.

All I ask is he doesn’t hire the coach that NO OTHER TEAM is interested in, that that coach have some kind of head coaching experience, and that he gives him/her a contract that’s in line with their experience. None of those were met with the current Football and Men’s Basketball coaches, and both those programs are train wrecks as well.

ALL that YOU ask? If you’re the “rookie”of this group, than I guess I’m the “senior statesman”.
Assuming you’re correct, we should have fired Roos after TWO losing years, at least one of which was partially the result of an injury riddled roster ( which I think also affected that 2 nd year also). So no matter how her first years were, you’d have bounced her? FWIW, I agree that it WAS time for a change and truly hope this next hire will get us back on the track most of us have gotten used to previously.
As to the men’s basketball team and football program, history at BG has shown ( football in particular) that we’ve had a tendency to win for several years, lose a coach ( can you say Dave Clawson). And then have to survive a whole new staff and terminology ( can you say Falcon Fast) only to change again, after another winning season. IMO, this year should tell us more about Jinks and co. A rebuilt coaching staff alone should help improve things. If we still show no improvement, THEN is when you look to replace. Jink’s biggest mistake was the lack of experienced staff, which seems to have been remedied so we’ll see.

[Flipper]

What should "Moose" have done...tasered "Fra" and stuffed her in his trunk until she agreed to come here? Who gives a frick WHEN the right person is hired as long as the right person is hired

[Globetrotter]

Just for reference. Signing day is 4-11. And the final day is 5-16.

I don't understand the final day. Don't we sign people after?

[gmartin]

I'm not sure which is more humorous. A guy choosing to play at Ashland over the D1 program you root for, or having a player declare for the NBA draft that has a 0.000000% chance of getting drafted.

Maybe Moose made a deal. Koch is transferring to Ashland so it's only fair you send Robyn and Tim Fralick to BG.

[Globetrotter]

Adrian Nelson 6-6, Pickerington
Just decommitted from Detroit likely with Bacarri leaving?
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Committed to Northern Kentucky. He was very high on my list.