Miami

[kdog27]

OOC revenue this year. Not as much as you might think. I pulled this from an old BGSU release earlier this year.
900k @ Oregon
(150k) Maryland 400k each for the 2:1 @ Maryland(next 2024)
(350k) EKU
900k @ Ga Tech

And it's not free money. All used for the expenses of running an FBS program in the mac

[Falconfreak90]

I've said this before but it bears repeating....F**k you, Kingston!

I am sooo pissed at that POS right now. Found his handle on Twitter and thanked him for screwing us over.

[Falconfreak90]

Any chance in the world Jinks will resign to avoid the professional embarrassment of being fired?

Like Gary Blackney in 2000. He knew for the good of the program, he had to step aside.

[Schadenfreude]

Any chance in the world Jinks will resign to avoid the professional embarrassment of being fired?

Like Gary Blackney in 2000. He knew for the good of the program, he had to step aside.

Here's a look back.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Opinion/2000 ... n-end.html" target="_blank

I could be wrong, but I think Blackney might have been in the last year of his contract anyway. So I don't think he gave away any money by announcing his forthcoming resignation (and I wouldn't expect any head coach to do that, anyway).

Even so, it was a nice way for Blackney to exit. It resolved debate among fans about what would happen next, and Paul Krebs had plenty of time to find the right person.

[MarkL]

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... head-coach

Check this article out about Gary Andersen's departure from Oregon State. He resigned and left $12 million on the table.
He had 7 wins in 3.5 years. Same number of wins as Jinks.
He was 53 and had plenty of coaching left in him. Same story as Jinks.
He is described as a good man with integrity. Same as Jinks.
He is now in his home state of Utah as associate head coach and a defensive assistant for the Utes. Jinks had never before this job lived outside of Texas and is still held in esteem in Texas coaching circles.

Mike Jinks, if you are reading this, Gary Andersen is regarded as a good, principled man for how he left a job he knew he could no longer do and yet maintained the possibility of a continuing career. Please consider resigning and moving on. We will all respect you and revere you for respecting our Alma Mater and pursuing something else. You will land on your feet.

[Class of 61]

One thing not mentioned in this article relates to Blackney having to take care of his entire family including caring for his wife. I believe Loretta suffered a debilitating stroke leaving her in a wheelchair.
I won’t tell you WHO told me, but the stress led to serious problems for Blackney. So there were other circumstances involved.

Guess I’ve got to join the rest of you in that a change is needed. Unrealistically, making a move now probably isn’t realistic. But our recruiting has GOT to suffer if this goes on too long. And that’s the one thing Jinks has claimed success for in past 2 yrs.

[2006Grad]

The buck stops with the head coach for the failures of the team. BUT, we brought in a highly respected DC and are getting nothing special on that side of the ball.
Were the players that bad that he can not mold them into a functioning unit?
If the offensive system is such that the stresses placed on the D are too hard to over come?
Would love to hear what Carl has to say about how the D is playing

[Beaker]

Any chance in the world Jinks will resign to avoid the professional embarrassment of being fired?

Like Gary Blackney in 2000. He knew for the good of the program, he had to step aside.

Here's a look back.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Opinion/2000 ... n-end.html" target="_blank

I could be wrong, but I think Blackney might have been in the last year of his contract anyway. So I don't think he gave away any money by announcing his forthcoming resignation (and I wouldn't expect any head coach to do that, anyway).

Even so, it was a nice way for Blackney to exit. It resolved debate among fans about what would happen next, and Paul Krebs had plenty of time to find the right person.

Reading that reminded me of how at the time I was thinking this Harris kid is a good athlete but he can't hit the side of a barn passing. I remember saying how we needed to find someone who could throw the ball and stick Harris at running back. Eh.....

That article takes me back to a time when people following the program thought it couldn't get any lower. It was amazing how the turnaround was just over the horizon and we didn't know it. Maybe our turn around might be closer than we think. It's all about finding the right leadership.

[Beaker]

https://www.sbnation.com/college-footba ... head-coach

Check this article out about Gary Andersen's departure from Oregon State. He resigned and left $12 million on the table.
He had 7 wins in 3.5 years. Same number of wins as Jinks.
He was 53 and had plenty of coaching left in him. Same story as Jinks.
He is described as a good man with integrity. Same as Jinks.
He is now in his home state of Utah as associate head coach and a defensive assistant for the Utes. Jinks had never before this job lived outside of Texas and is still held in esteem in Texas coaching circles.

Mike Jinks, if you are reading this, Gary Andersen is regarded as a good, principled man for how he left a job he knew he could no longer do and yet maintained the possibility of a continuing career. Please consider resigning and moving on. We will all respect you and revere you for respecting our Alma Mater and pursuing something else. You will land on your feet.

Good info, Mark. You might remember that Gary Anderson was named head coach at Wisconsin and was doing ok there. To everyone's surprise, he walked away from it and went to Oregon State. I wonder how many times he kicked himself for that decision.

[hammb]

Any chance in the world Jinks will resign to avoid the professional embarrassment of being fired?

Like Gary Blackney in 2000. He knew for the good of the program, he had to step aside.

Here's a look back.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Opinion/2000 ... n-end.html" target="_blank

I could be wrong, but I think Blackney might have been in the last year of his contract anyway. So I don't think he gave away any money by announcing his forthcoming resignation (and I wouldn't expect any head coach to do that, anyway).

Even so, it was a nice way for Blackney to exit. It resolved debate among fans about what would happen next, and Paul Krebs had plenty of time to find the right person.

Reading that reminded me of how at the time I was thinking this Harris kid is a good athlete but he can't hit the side of a barn passing. I remember saying how we needed to find someone who could throw the ball and stick Harris at running back. Eh.....

That article takes me back to a time when people following the program thought it couldn't get any lower. It was amazing how the turnaround was just over the horizon and we didn't know it. Maybe our turn around might be closer than we think. It's all about finding the right leadership.

An Urban Meyer level coach could take an average FCS school and win 6 games with our typical MAC schedule, IMO. We went from Gary Blackney to one of the best coaches in college football (history?). That will ALWAYS result in an instant turnaround.

If we do decide to move on from coach Jinks this year (god I hope so), I don't expect to find the next Urban. I'd be content finding the next Clawson, and knowing it will take a few years to see those results.

It should be fairly obvious right away though that things are on the right track. It was with Clawson, and obviously was with Meyer.

[It's the Journey...]

So this may be one of the few posts I put up on the Miami game. I am as frustrated as anyone at this whole mess. I know Jinks to be a good man who wants to succeed. And I will criticize some of his early hires and the fact we continue to have TWO offensive coordinators. I don't think that is ever a good idea. I will also criticize our DC and his "bend but don't break" defense. How many times have we seen that strategy fail? I think every time.

But now I am going to go into what is usually off limits territory. The team itself, meaning every single player on the roster, need to do their damn job! I felt like I was watching the Browns offense with Taylor at QB. There was no motivation. Some will blame the coaches for this. But if you cannot find your own motivation that is sad. That offense looked different with Loy in the plays were the same. There was more of crispness. The defense has gotten WORSE since the beginning of the season. You cannot tell me the coaches are not working on tackling during practice. It's a lack of execution on the field. And that falls directly on the players. I will not call out individuals because it is a team issue. And as a team it is time to take a hard look in the mirror and change what is seen.

This program has issues. But I am not in the place yet where firing a head coach and keeping the rest of the staff for the season is helpful at all. We would have a DC who has also shown regression in charge and still have two offensive coordinators. I said it when he was hired and I will say it now. This is a full four year rebuild. I stand by that. If a new person comes in before next season and has instant success it would be with talent that was being brought in for a reason. We let Gary Blackney go on for six years after the CMU punter incident in 2004. We can afford a little more time here.

[MarkL]

Firing a guy mid season is not about handing control to an assistant. It is about demonstrating to your alums, donors, students, and fans that you are actively working the problem, and it gives you additional time and flexibility to find and hire the next coach.

[It's the Journey...]

I don't disagree that is the thinking. But how many on here were ready to name Pelini the new HC when he was announced as DC? Quite a few, I looked back at the discussions. Maybe his coronation was a bit premature considering how his unit is performing this season.

Moving on mid season tells that team you know it's bad and you are working to make it better, NEXT SEASON. But for the remaining games this season, The department really doesn't care about the team. Just get through it as best as you can.

Neither is good, and both are damaging.

[Schadenfreude]

I know Jinks to be a good man who wants to succeed.

I believe that, too.

But I am not in the place yet where firing a head coach and keeping the rest of the staff for the season is helpful at all. We would have a DC who has also shown regression in charge and still have two offensive coordinators. I said it when he was hired and I will say it now. This is a full four year rebuild. I stand by that.

Removing him this minute isn't going to help. If making a change at the end of the season is remotely realistic financially, then I hope that Bob Moosbrugger is already out there looking so we can have someone in place after Bowling Green loses to Buffalo at the end of the season. In this scenario, the new head coach will have had some time to try to assemble a staff.

[jpfalcon09]

I wouldn't be surprised if Jinks is given one more year only because of the financials. In that case, you're looking at entering Kent/Miami territory of being irrelevant for an extended period of time. You already have awful student turnout at home games and without the promotions they ran for Maryland and EKU, you're looking at a dwindling alumni and townspeople base willing to spend their time and money on a program sinking in quicksand. It's already difficult enough to survive as a mid-major at the FBS level but leaving Jinks here another season just pushes that timeline back another year of trying to repair an immense amount of damage done.