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Stop blaming Jinks for taking the job! A lot of people on this site would’ve said hiring a Wide Reciecers Coach was a terrible idea, to think a Wide Receivers Coach could run our football program.
A mistake was made and I was giving him this year and now I say his time is up. But don’t blame him for thinking he could do it!

And what concerns me further is our head basketball coach has this year to make us competitive or he will need to go to...and I’m not confident that will happen either!
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ZuluWarrior wrote:Stop blaming Jinks for taking the job! A lot of people on this site would’ve said hiring a Wide Reciecers Coach was a terrible idea, to think a Wide Receivers Coach could run our football program.
A mistake was made and I was giving him this year and now I say his time is up. But don’t blame him for thinking he could do it!

And what concerns me further is our head basketball coach has this year to make us competitive or he will need to go to...and I’m not confident that will happen either!
Why be concerned at this point? Both of these coaches were very big hiring mistakes -- and BG has paid (and is paying) for it in loss of interest in two of the biggest revenue producing sports. If you don't make the correction, and the apathy continues, eventually ALL sports will be hurt because of the revenue losses.

That's why it's always better to address these problems as early as possible, before they fester too long.

The only good thing about all this is that the current AD was not involved in hiring these two failures, and the one major hire he's had to do on his watch (women's basketball) appears to be a home run...but only time will tell us that for certain.
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Nope. Continue to blame Jinks for taking the job. Blame Jinks for the embarrassment in his first game. Blame Jinks for the embarrassment in his second game. Most of all blame Jinks for the most embarrassing and telling game of his career at Memphis. A lot of people did complain about hiring a WR coach, then we’re proven wrong in the first game. 28 games later Jinks looks just like he did at the spring game after he was hired. Complete dysfunction. People chose to blame Babers in hopes that the eyes weren’t telling them what they saw. It was so bad, the person who hired him left as quick as he could in hopes to separate himself from the hire. Go ahead and blame Jinks. 1.5 Million dollars later and rock bottom, keep blaming Jinks.
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I'm done. I like Coach Jinks as a person and he is a good family man. However, he is not qualified to be a College Football Head Coach at this level at this time. I saw hope at Oregon but we have regressed every game since then and look just like we did in year 1 under Jinks. This is the lowest I've ever seen our program including the Moe Ankney years when I was at BGSU. Mike has a family and this is tough on a coach..but it comes with the territory and all coaches know it. As long as people don't personally attack him, I'm good. His coaching record? Absolutely 100% criticize away. But not the man, personally.

Chris Kingston, IMO, is the biggest culprit in this but there is plenty of blame to go around. We must make a change to avoid going thru a decade of losing like Miami did. This isn't working. As a life and death loyal Falcon Football fan, it really sucks to see your favorite team in this shape.
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Like I posted in the other thread we have money for the buyout. We made 2.25 million in our money games. Just pretend we did not have any money games this year, this is free money. Use this money to buy out the contract and you still have over 1 million available.
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ZuluWarrior wrote:Stop blaming Jinks for taking the job! A lot of people on this site would’ve said hiring a Wide Reciecers Coach was a terrible idea, to think a Wide Receivers Coach could run our football program.
A mistake was made and I was giving him this year and now I say his time is up. But don’t blame him for thinking he could do it!

And what concerns me further is our head basketball coach has this year to make us competitive or he will need to go to...and I’m not confident that will happen either!
For the record, Jinks was the RB coach at TX Tech. I don't blame him for taking the job either. Plenty of people take jobs every day in which they are not qualified.
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gmartin wrote:this is free money.
Surely the University has (or had) another use in mind for this money.

A buyout may be the least bad option at this point, but it would mean not being able to accomplish something else.
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Falconfreak90 wrote:
ZuluWarrior wrote:Stop blaming Jinks for taking the job! A lot of people on this site would’ve said hiring a Wide Reciecers Coach was a terrible idea, to think a Wide Receivers Coach could run our football program.
A mistake was made and I was giving him this year and now I say his time is up. But don’t blame him for thinking he could do it!

And what concerns me further is our head basketball coach has this year to make us competitive or he will need to go to...and I’m not confident that will happen either!
For the record, Jinks was the RB coach at TX Tech. I don't blame him for taking the job either. Plenty of people take jobs every day in which they are NOT qualified. I am hoping he pulls a Gary Blackney and steps aside for the good of the program. I won't hold my breath but a change is needed.
In his press conference he's talking about winning every game left on the schedule. That doesn't sound like someone about to step away.
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Falconfreak90 wrote:
ZuluWarrior wrote:Stop blaming Jinks for taking the job! A lot of people on this site would’ve said hiring a Wide Reciecers Coach was a terrible idea, to think a Wide Receivers Coach could run our football program.
A mistake was made and I was giving him this year and now I say his time is up. But don’t blame him for thinking he could do it!

And what concerns me further is our head basketball coach has this year to make us competitive or he will need to go to...and I’m not confident that will happen either!
For the record, Jinks was the RB coach at TX Tech. I don't blame him for taking the job either. Plenty of people take jobs every day in which they are NOT qualified. I am hoping he pulls a Gary Blackney and steps aside for the good of the program. I won't hold my breath but a change is needed.
I figured ZuluWarrior was alluding to Urban Meyer, who was a wide receivers coach at Notre Dame when he was asked to be head coach here.
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Jinks would be entitled to the rest of his salary unless he’s fired with cause.

People need to remember the high-dollar donor pool at BG is very shallow. If you keep going to that pool to fix your mistakes then the water is eventually going to be gone.
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We can argue all day about if he should’ve taken the job but I think it’s important to start to look toward the future. Will firing him right now cost more than at the end of the season? How much will it cost to fire him at the end of the year vs the end of next year? I hate to say it but our athletic department is asking these questions. For us, every dollar counts.
I heard a rumor all these money games were supposed to go to a major doyt renovation. The athletic department can’t want to cancel those plans, right?
Hiring jinks was risky. Someone pointed out hiring urban from a wide receiver coach was risky. I had no problem rolling the dice on him, but 5 years? Dumb dumb dumb. Should’ve been 3.
On a side note, buffalo looks like a dominant team. I would like to go back to getting lower division head coaches that have torn between up their leagues, as buffalo and eastern have done
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kdog27 wrote:
Falconfreak90 wrote:
ZuluWarrior wrote:Stop blaming Jinks for taking the job! A lot of people on this site would’ve said hiring a Wide Reciecers Coach was a terrible idea, to think a Wide Receivers Coach could run our football program.
A mistake was made and I was giving him this year and now I say his time is up. But don’t blame him for thinking he could do it!

And what concerns me further is our head basketball coach has this year to make us competitive or he will need to go to...and I’m not confident that will happen either!
For the record, Jinks was the RB coach at TX Tech. I don't blame him for taking the job either. Plenty of people take jobs every day in which they are NOT qualified. I am hoping he pulls a Gary Blackney and steps aside for the good of the program. I won't hold my breath but a change is needed.
In his press conference he's talking about winning every game left on the schedule. That doesn't sound like someone about to step away.
I amended my above post...probably getting a bit too emotional need to calm myself down a bit. lol.

We won't win another game this year IF we continue to play like we have. The disturbing thing is year 3 looks like year 1...and year 2. I don' t see the progress. I'm gonna go for a run in the park.
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BGDrew wrote:Jinks would be entitled to the rest of his salary unless he’s fired with cause.

People need to remember the high-dollar donor pool at BG is very shallow. If you keep going to that pool to fix your mistakes then the water is eventually going to be gone.
Certainly true there....
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I don't fault Jinks for taking the job...I fault Kingston for hiring him. His primary qualification? He came from a program that "goes fast". I don't fault Jinks for staying here....we're cutting him some pretty big paychecks especially by BG cost of living standards. Assuming there will be no miracle turnaround that sees us win seven or eight games this year, the fault wil lie with the University if they don't bite the bullet and fire him immediately after the season
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I know I posted it elsewhere but I'll say it again. Gary Andersen walked away from 12 million at Oregon State and resigned. He knew he couldn't turn that program around, it wasn't in him. He chose not to further drain the program while also maintaining his reputation. He is now back in his home state of Utah and is an associate head coach at Utah. He is rebuilding himself.
Somebody needs to suggest this to Jinks. It is hard to bounce back from being fired. He seems like a nice guy so I doubt he enjoys seeing the university cash strapped at his expense. He could have a bright future in coaching. He still has a good reputation in Texas coaching circles. It would look way better to resign amicably than be fired from his first head coaching job.
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