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[kdog27]

Any chance in the world Jinks will resign to avoid the professional embarrassment of being fired?

Like Gary Blackney in 2000. He knew for the good of the program, he had to step aside.

Here's a look back.

http://www.toledoblade.com/Opinion/2000 ... n-end.html" target="_blank

I could be wrong, but I think Blackney might have been in the last year of his contract anyway. So I don't think he gave away any money by announcing his forthcoming resignation (and I wouldn't expect any head coach to do that, anyway).

Even so, it was a nice way for Blackney to exit. It resolved debate among fans about what would happen next, and Paul Krebs had plenty of time to find the right person.

Reading that reminded me of how at the time I was thinking this Harris kid is a good athlete but he can't hit the side of a barn passing. I remember saying how we needed to find someone who could throw the ball and stick Harris at running back. Eh.....

That article takes me back to a time when people following the program thought it couldn't get any lower. It was amazing how the turnaround was just over the horizon and we didn't know it. Maybe our turn around might be closer than we think. It's all about finding the right leadership.

An Urban Meyer level coach could take an average FCS school and win 6 games with our typical MAC schedule, IMO. We went from Gary Blackney to one of the best coaches in college football (history?). That will ALWAYS result in an instant turnaround.

If we do decide to move on from coach Jinks this year (god I hope so), I don't expect to find the next Urban. I'd be content finding the next Clawson, and knowing it will take a few years to see those results.

It should be fairly obvious right away though that things are on the right track. It was with Clawson, and obviously was with Meyer.

Just to change a discussion around here for once, do you really think Urban is the best coach in history. I think there was a time you could interchange him and Saban at 1 and 2 of current coaches. The past 5+ years about shuts the door for me. Saban has sustained his success for 10 straight years now. What is it 6 chips to 3? Meanwhile Urban leaves clouds everywhere he leaves. Now, Saban is older but I dont see a drop off for at least a few more seasons. Urban is way too flaky to ever catch him IMO.

[pdt1081]

I wouldn't be surprised if Jinks is given one more year only because of the financials. In that case, you're looking at entering Kent/Miami territory of being irrelevant for an extended period of time. You already have awful student turnout at home games and without the promotions they ran for Maryland and EKU, you're looking at a dwindling alumni and townspeople base willing to spend their time and money on a program sinking in quicksand. It's already difficult enough to survive as a mid-major at the FBS level but leaving Jinks here another season just pushes that timeline back another year of trying to repair an immense amount of damage done.

Perhaps Moose has looked at Greg Fundraiser's plan for the hockey team (let it get bad, then worse, then threaten to cut, huge donations, rebuild), and decided to try it with football.

Obviously I'm joking, but it was a hell of a fundraising move. And has returned a storied program to relevancy again.

[hammb]

Just to change a discussion around here for once, do you really think Urban is the best coach in history. I think there was a time you could interchange him and Saban at 1 and 2 of current coaches. The past 5+ years about shuts the door for me. Saban has sustained his success for 10 straight years now. What is it 6 chips to 3? Meanwhile Urban leaves clouds everywhere he leaves. Now, Saban is older but I dont see a drop off for at least a few more seasons. Urban is way too flaky to ever catch him IMO.

No, I do not think Urban is the best coach in history. And I agree saban is the better coach for this era. I specifically said "one of the best" in college football, which he is clearly in the top 5 of coaches over the past 20 years. And he's probably got an argument to be I'm the upper echelon of the all time discussion.

I'm not a fan of how he's acted of late. Nor am I a fan of how out of hand he let his program get at UF. Still, few coaches are better at winning. Saban has changed the narrative a bit by being at bama so long, but it's not as though either has/had a great reputation for loyalty. And both have shown the ability to be great at many stops/levels. It's impressive.

I don't fully believe either of them have done it without bending the rules of college football behind the scenes, but that's where we're at with the sport right now.

[kdog27]

Sorry I missed the one of part lmao

[Flipper]

Meyer has done one thing that no one else has done and it makes him a serious contender to be the GOAT. He's won in three distinct geographic regions. And by won I mean National Titles or at least a top five finish. He went 22-2 at Utah and finished 4th in his second yer, won it all at Florida and Ohio State. That's out west, deep south and midwest. Who else can say that?

[hammb]

Meyer has done one thing that no one else has done and it makes him a serious contender to be the GOAT. He's won in three distinct geographic regions. And by won I mean National Titles or at least a top five finish. He went 22-2 at Utah and finished 4th in his second yer, won it all at Florida and Ohio State. That's out west, deep south and midwest. Who else can say that?

That is a good point Flipper. He's been a great coach with national level success at 3 regions, and obviously was incredibly successful at BG as well. Saban is, IMO, the best coach in college football over the past decade, but he was only mildly successful at MSU; he needed to go to the SEC (for whatever reason) to achieve national level success.

[Schadenfreude]

I'm more impressed with coaches that take their programs to the next level. Joe Paterno made some serious off-the-field mistakes, but he took a program that wasn't much more than MAC caliber and led the into the Big Ten. By that standard, the best argument for Meyer is what he did at Utah. Had he stuck around, maybe he could have accomplished even more there.

[MarkL]

he (Saban) needed to go to the SEC (for whatever reason) to achieve national level success.

I have a guess why

[Class of 61]

Quite an article. Only in the SEC? Seems like OSU gets a LOT of southern kids.

[kdog27]

Goes on everywhere, big or small. Just happens more frequently and in larger denominations at your name brand places. Like it says there is no way to stop it.

[slashba33]

Too bad the bag man won't show up with a cool million to buy out Jinks!!

[CrazyFan]

Too bad the bag man won't show up with a cool million to buy out Jinks!!

I'm pretty confident the bagman is just around the corner if Moose really wants to go looking for him.

[MarkL]

Miami played Western tight in a high scoring game. But Western held Miami to 55 rushing yards after nearly hitting 300 on us. Wow.