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I'm good....lets see the staff and see what goes from there
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Love it!
First, way to work fast Moos!
Two, couldn’t have been cheap!
Three, same hometown as Bo
Four, BG wife
Five, with successful big time programs (War Eagle)
Six, knows OH and area
On paper - checks almost every box!
Welcome to BG, Coach!

My biggest concern at this stage is the one ‘t’.
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Flipper wrote:I'm good....lets see the staff and see what goes from there
Yeah, I think this is the key. Had Jinks realized this when he was hired and actually brought in quality assistants from the start, he "might" have fared a tad better. ;)
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From reading comments by BC, VT and Auburn fans it seems he ran a pro-style offense. Might be better suited for the current skill set BG has with the plethora of riches at running back, assuming no one transfers out. Curious to see how it works in the MAC. Not so sure we'll see a traditional spread offense but that might be dependent upon who he hires as OC.
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Does this hire mean that he will be taking over the quarterback job as well? Does this mean our current qb coach is out? Does this mean that our current QB will leave with his brother?

Going to be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Overall good hire.
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I like the hire.

Hopefully Pelini's feelings aren't hurt, I'd be FOR offering him Associate HC / DC.
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If Loeffler is as ready for this job as Moose thinks, then he will have some pretty well-developed ideas of who he wants on his staff, and we will need to respect his decisions.

Pelini did a good job for us in a difficult situation. He comes across as a leader who really connects with young men. I won't be the least bit surprised if he's head coaching again in the future.
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hiway44 wrote:Does this hire mean that he will be taking over the quarterback job as well? Does this mean our current qb coach is out? Does this mean that our current QB will leave with his brother?

Going to be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Overall good hire.
I doubt very much he will be a QB coach, as well as a head coach. That is pretty rare. I'd prefer he assemble a kick butt staff, and let them do the nitty gritty work to make the program good again. Even though he's more of a pro set coach, I would hope he's open to the idea of using a more wide open offense, and I have to believe that was a topic of discussion during his interview.

It's not that an I formation can't work today, but it is not as effective as some type of spread offense, in my opinion. I believe that one of the reasons Harbaugh has not had great success is because he's so stuck in the 1990s way of thinking about offense. It may be that he simply has not had a QB to run that style of offense, but he IS the head man and chief recruiter. I don't want to see us end up in a situation like *ichigan is in right now, with a head man who refuses to advance with the times, offensively.

His staff hires are going to be very telling.
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Schadenfreude wrote:If Loeffler is as ready for this job as Moose thinks, then he will have some pretty well-developed ideas of who he wants on his staff, and we will need to respect his decisions.

Pelini did a good job for us in a difficult situation. He comes across as a leader who really connects with young men. I won't be the least bit surprised if he's head coaching again in the future.

Agreed. Get staff in place and hit recruiting before dead period starts.
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hiway44 wrote:Does this hire mean that he will be taking over the quarterback job as well? Does this mean our current qb coach is out? Does this mean that our current QB will leave with his brother?

Going to be interesting to see how this unfolds.

Overall good hire.
My guesses re: your questions. I don't know, yes, and I don't know.

I would be very surprised if Loeffler kept anyone on the current staff, other than possibly a GA or lower-level assistant to help with continuity & the transition for the players. I have to think S Doege is gone -- hopefully this doesn't mean J Doege leaves as well, but who knows?

I wish Loeffler all the best, and I commend Moose for keeping any news from leaking out. This is not a quick fix; I think we will be a 3-9 or 4-8 team next year, & I would've thought that no matter who we hired.I just hope that we see some measurable progress & hope for the future during spring ball and next August, September, etc.
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jpfalcon09 wrote:
mbenecke wrote:The names that were confirmed to be involved in the process, at this point:

Brian Polian
Carl Pelini
Scot Loeffler
Greg Studrawa
The Athletic noted the following others:
Notre Dame defensive line coach Mike Elston
Ohio State running backs coach Tony Alford
Oklahoma State offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich
Mount Union head coach Vince Kehres

I know Tony Alford as his son is in my daughter's class here in Dublin. I jokingly asked him once if he would ever consider the BG job...if Urban would let him go to coach at his former job? He laughed, but was pretty serious when he said he's not interested in being "the guy". He loves coaching and recruiting, but doesn't enjoy the BS that comes with the HC position. Elston would have been a solid pick. Kehres will not leave Mount until his old man passes on.

As for Loeffler, he sounds good on paper and has some key experience and familiarity with the Midwest, but I still really wanted to hire a current HC at the lower level which will bring a full coaching staff with him. Plug in and coach! Given what we have been through over the past 3 years, I will give him a chance, but the proof has to show on the field.
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slashba33 wrote:
jpfalcon09 wrote:
mbenecke wrote:The names that were confirmed to be involved in the process, at this point:

Brian Polian
Carl Pelini
Scot Loeffler
Greg Studrawa
The Athletic noted the following others:
Notre Dame defensive line coach Mike Elston
Ohio State running backs coach Tony Alford
Oklahoma State offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich
Mount Union head coach Vince Kehres

I know Tony Alford as his son is in my daughter's class here in Dublin. I jokingly asked him once if he would ever consider the BG job...if Urban would let him go to coach at his former job? He laughed, but was pretty serious when he said he's not interested in being "the guy". He loves coaching and recruiting, but doesn't enjoy the BS that comes with the HC position. Elston would have been a solid pick. Kehres will not leave Mount until his old man passes on.

As for Loeffler, he sounds good on paper and has some key experience and familiarity with the Midwest, but I still really wanted to hire a current HC at the lower level which will bring a full coaching staff with him. Plug in and coach! Given what we have been through over the past 3 years, I will give him a chance, but the proof has to show on the field.
Issue with a top flight FCS or D2 coach is you're going to be waiting until early December before you can hire him due to their playoff structure. BG couldn't afford to wait that long with the early signing period along with the condition of the program. This hire gets the ship steered back in the right direction with the hope that after a few recruiting cycles you're back to competing for wins against P5 opponents and conference championships.
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jpfalcon09 wrote:
slashba33 wrote:
jpfalcon09 wrote:
mbenecke wrote:The names that were confirmed to be involved in the process, at this point:

Brian Polian
Carl Pelini
Scot Loeffler
Greg Studrawa
The Athletic noted the following others:
Notre Dame defensive line coach Mike Elston
Ohio State running backs coach Tony Alford
Oklahoma State offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich
Mount Union head coach Vince Kehres

I know Tony Alford as his son is in my daughter's class here in Dublin. I jokingly asked him once if he would ever consider the BG job...if Urban would let him go to coach at his former job? He laughed, but was pretty serious when he said he's not interested in being "the guy". He loves coaching and recruiting, but doesn't enjoy the BS that comes with the HC position. Elston would have been a solid pick. Kehres will not leave Mount until his old man passes on.

As for Loeffler, he sounds good on paper and has some key experience and familiarity with the Midwest, but I still really wanted to hire a current HC at the lower level which will bring a full coaching staff with him. Plug in and coach! Given what we have been through over the past 3 years, I will give him a chance, but the proof has to show on the field.
Issue with a top flight FCS or D2 coach is you're going to be waiting until early December before you can hire him due to their playoff structure. BG couldn't afford to wait that long with the early signing period along with the condition of the program. This hire gets the ship steered back in the right direction with the hope that after a few recruiting cycles you're back to competing for wins against P5 opponents and conference championships.

Understood...but is not waiting another couple of weeks to officially announce your guy worth more to save a recruiting class for next year vs. finding the best guy AND staff for next 3 to 5 years? I don't want the coaching staff being another drag on the progression of the program. Kingston hired Jinks for what was hot NOW, not the future and here we are.

Not saying it was a bad hire like Jinks, just feel we could do much better for our situation.
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slashba33 wrote:
jpfalcon09 wrote:
slashba33 wrote:
jpfalcon09 wrote:
mbenecke wrote:The names that were confirmed to be involved in the process, at this point:

Brian Polian
Carl Pelini
Scot Loeffler
Greg Studrawa
The Athletic noted the following others:
Notre Dame defensive line coach Mike Elston
Ohio State running backs coach Tony Alford
Oklahoma State offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich
Mount Union head coach Vince Kehres

I know Tony Alford as his son is in my daughter's class here in Dublin. I jokingly asked him once if he would ever consider the BG job...if Urban would let him go to coach at his former job? He laughed, but was pretty serious when he said he's not interested in being "the guy". He loves coaching and recruiting, but doesn't enjoy the BS that comes with the HC position. Elston would have been a solid pick. Kehres will not leave Mount until his old man passes on.

As for Loeffler, he sounds good on paper and has some key experience and familiarity with the Midwest, but I still really wanted to hire a current HC at the lower level which will bring a full coaching staff with him. Plug in and coach! Given what we have been through over the past 3 years, I will give him a chance, but the proof has to show on the field.
Issue with a top flight FCS or D2 coach is you're going to be waiting until early December before you can hire him due to their playoff structure. BG couldn't afford to wait that long with the early signing period along with the condition of the program. This hire gets the ship steered back in the right direction with the hope that after a few recruiting cycles you're back to competing for wins against P5 opponents and conference championships.

Understood...but is not waiting another couple of weeks to officially announce your guy worth more to save a recruiting class for next year vs. finding the best guy AND staff for next 3 to 5 years? I don't want the coaching staff being another drag on the progression of the program. Kingston hired Jinks for what was hot NOW, not the future and here we are.

Not saying it was a bad hire like Jinks, just feel we could do much better for our situation.
When the four confirmed interviews were Loeffler, Polian, Pelini and Stud, I think Moose did the best he could given those options. Losing possible early recruits along with likely transfers out of the program would be devastating for 2019. It had to be done now.
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slashba33 wrote:Understood...but is not waiting another couple of weeks to officially announce your guy worth more to save a recruiting class for next year vs. finding the best guy AND staff for next 3 to 5 years?
I'm not saying we didn't get it right with Loeffler, but if the best guy was in FCS, it would have been worth waiting out the playoffs to get him.

No matter what Loeffler does, this isn't going to be a great recruiting class. Transition years never seem to be. But if he has the right stuff long term, he's the right hire.
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