BGSU vs Brad's and Chad's

[Flipper]

A loss here and there now keeps you motivated....a loss in March sends you home. Let's lose now vs March

[Flipper]

Double post......

[FalconRollAlong]

Hopefully they can refocus for the Buffalo game.

And Globetrotter need a tissue?

[hammb]

I think the team was looking ahead to Buffalo just a little too much, and they ran into a team they should not have looked past. All week, all the talk around the program was about the Buffalo game and how great we are, where we're projected in the tournament, etc. You could see it, even on the social media of the players, that their focus was completely on that game.

This team has been humbled, and now we'll see what they're made of on Friday night.

Or they are not very good and were getting lucky.

I feel like getting lucky 10 games in a row seems unlikely, but you're entitled to that opinion.

One loss doesn't change the fact that this team was 6-0 in the MAC when they picked to finish last in the entire conference before the year.

It's not an opinion. Its an option. They have literally played 10 games and half of them were one way and half were the other way. The evidence says they can go either way. The 10 games in a row are a blip on the Huger mediocrity radar. There is a reason they were picked last, in the 4th year of a coaches tenure, when he has all of his own players, who should know his system through and through. He still created the team that was picked last. He wasn't saddled with it. Jury is still out.

There is a reason they were picked last. It's because through 3 seasons it looked apparent that Huger was a mediocre at best coach. Then through the first 9 games this year it looked obvious he was a poor to mediocre coach.

All of a sudden in games 10-19 the team played a COMPLETELY different brand of basketball. This wasn't just shots falling vs not falling (as evidenced by the fact we shot a similarly good 3% yesterday). It was a willingness to move without the ball that has been absent for years. A willingness to make an extra pass and find the open man, which had been absent for 3 years. It was NOT trying to run the ball through your center in the post, despite trying to do so for most of 3 years. It was a recognition that you don't have a single true PG so stop trying to run everything through one of your guards and force it.

I didn't watch much of the game yesterday, only caught the last 6 mins or so on my cell phone. But what I saw was a lot less ball movement, a lot of standing around, a lot of lazy passes, and lax effort on defense. They were down 10 when I got it on, and kind of hovered between 9-12 for a few minutes. They had chances to eat into the lead, but never really showed any ability to make the plays when necessary.

I don't at all expect perfection. Wins on the road in the MAC are tough. I had Miami in my head as a tough road test; most especially coming off 10 straight wins since I don't think this team is nearly talented enough to keep rolling like that. But as Globe said, there are different ways to lose. Losing by showing poor effort and looking lost on offense (as we did for much of our first 9 games) isn't nearly as easy to stomach as losing a game against a scrappy opponent that came out hitting all their shots, or us just having a poor shooting day, etc.

Win or Lose on Saturday I expect a loss on Friday. Honestly, I expect a blowout loss on Friday as this is a chance for a statement game for Buffalo. I do think losing Saturday should help fuel our guys to be ready to go on Friday, but I'm upset to hear about how we played on Saturday. Hopefully it was a blip and we can go back to moving the ball on Friday night. It will, I'm unfortunately afraid, have a negative effect on attendance for Friday's game. I would love to see this team out and play good team basketball win OR lose. Buffalo is probably the best MAC team since KSU in '02, but if we want to get to the dance this year we're going to have to figure out a way to beat them. Finding a way to win on our home floor would be a great confidence boost for a hopeful matchup in the tourney.

[TalonsDownForWhat]

If you guys want to give up on this team now then leave. They don't want you. In the words of Dino Babers "Get on the bandwagon now cause we are leaving with or without you"

Bad games happen to every team in the country, especially on the road. I could care less if we beat Buffalo on Friday. We are in position to get a Bye to Cle for the first time in a long time. It doesn't matter if we are 6-1 or 0-7 in the MAC you should be there supporting because these players, coaches, and support staff are working their asses off every day with Bowling Green State University on their chests.

[Globetrotter]

A loss here and there now keeps you motivated....a loss in March sends you home. Let's lose now vs March

Agreed. Much better. Just wish they had more fight.

[Globetrotter]

Hopefully they can refocus for the Buffalo game.

And Globetrotter need a tissue?

Need a tissue for what?

[Globetrotter]

I didn't watch much of the game yesterday, only caught the last 6 mins or so on my cell phone. But what I saw was a lot less ball movement, a lot of standing around, a lot of lazy passes, and lax effort on defense. They were down 10 when I got it on, and kind of hovered between 9-12 for a few minutes. They had chances to eat into the lead, but never really showed any ability to make the plays when necessary.

The ball movement and standing around on offense were atrocious. It looked like they all overslept. They had zero energy.

[Globetrotter]

If you guys want to give up on this team now then leave. They don't want you. In the words of Dino Babers "Get on the bandwagon now cause we are leaving with or without you"

Bad games happen to every team in the country, especially on the road. I could care less if we beat Buffalo on Friday. We are in position to get a Bye to Cle for the first time in a long time. It doesn't matter if we are 6-1 or 0-7 in the MAC you should be there supporting because these players, coaches, and support staff are working their asses off every day with Bowling Green State University on their chests.

If you believe criticizing something is giving up on it then you are in trouble in nearly all aspects of your life.

The second paragraph is just weird. It's much harder for people who don't live in the area to attend games.

[Rollo83]

If you guys want to give up on this team now then leave. They don't want you. In the words of Dino Babers "Get on the bandwagon now cause we are leaving with or without you"

Bad games happen to every team in the country, especially on the road. I could care less if we beat Buffalo on Friday. We are in position to get a Bye to Cle for the first time in a long time. It doesn't matter if we are 6-1 or 0-7 in the MAC you should be there supporting because these players, coaches, and support staff are working their asses off every day with Bowling Green State University on their chests.

Easy Junior! Be careful coming on here with your bandwagon talk. This is what a fan board is all about. Sharing in the triumphs and more often, commiserating the bad times. Lord knows we've had plenty of those at BG.

See, a lot of us here have earned the right to be skeptical, even cynical at times. Personally, I am in my 48th year of following BGSU athletics. I got hooked after attending basketball camp in Indiana in 1973, and I had a camp counselor by the name of Greg Kampe. He was a 2-sport star for the Falcons as the punter on the football team and point guard on the basketball team.

So this isn't the first rodeo for a lot of us here. We've been on the bandwagon for a long time. Doesn't always mean we like the direction its heading. If we didn't care, we wouldn't be on here.

Lighten up and enjoy the ride...

[Globetrotter]

If you guys want to give up on this team now then leave. They don't want you. In the words of Dino Babers "Get on the bandwagon now cause we are leaving with or without you"

Bad games happen to every team in the country, especially on the road. I could care less if we beat Buffalo on Friday. We are in position to get a Bye to Cle for the first time in a long time. It doesn't matter if we are 6-1 or 0-7 in the MAC you should be there supporting because these players, coaches, and support staff are working their asses off every day with Bowling Green State University on their chests.

Easy Junior! Be careful coming on here with your bandwagon talk. This is what a fan board is all about. Sharing in the triumphs and more often, commiserating the bad times. Lord knows we've had plenty of those at BG.

See, a lot of us here have earned the right to be skeptical, even cynical at times. Personally, I am in my 48th year of following BGSU athletics. I got hooked after attending basketball camp in Indiana in 1973, and I had a camp counselor by the name of Greg Kampe. He was a 2-sport star for the Falcons as the punter on the football team and point guard on the basketball team.

So this isn't the first rodeo for a lot of us here. We've been on the bandwagon for a long time. Doesn't always mean we like the direction its heading. If we didn't care, we wouldn't be on here.

Lighten up and enjoy the ride...

I had no idea he also punted. That's awesome. And for some reason I always pictured him as a PF. Who am I thinking of?

[hammb]

If you guys want to give up on this team now then leave. They don't want you. In the words of Dino Babers "Get on the bandwagon now cause we are leaving with or without you"

Bad games happen to every team in the country, especially on the road. I could care less if we beat Buffalo on Friday. We are in position to get a Bye to Cle for the first time in a long time. It doesn't matter if we are 6-1 or 0-7 in the MAC you should be there supporting because these players, coaches, and support staff are working their asses off every day with Bowling Green State University on their chests.

Easy Junior! Be careful coming on here with your bandwagon talk. This is what a fan board is all about. Sharing in the triumphs and more often, commiserating the bad times. Lord knows we've had plenty of those at BG.

See, a lot of us here have earned the right to be skeptical, even cynical at times. Personally, I am in my 48th year of following BGSU athletics. I got hooked after attending basketball camp in Indiana in 1973, and I had a camp counselor by the name of Greg Kampe. He was a 2-sport star for the Falcons as the punter on the football team and point guard on the basketball team.

So this isn't the first rodeo for a lot of us here. We've been on the bandwagon for a long time. Doesn't always mean we like the direction its heading. If we didn't care, we wouldn't be on here.

Lighten up and enjoy the ride...

Yeah, no reason any of us have to post our fan resume because we may criticize the team. I've watched a LOT of BG basketball in my life, and I know a good team and a lousy one. I've seen this particular team be both in the same season. Through 3 years of mediocrity Huger has lost all benefit of the doubt of being able to say, "it was just a bad game, move on." Do preseason rankings/predictions matter? Not really, but MY preseason expectation DOES matter (at least to me). I expected this team to be bottom of the MAC barrel because I've seen the way they played the past 3 years. Over the last couple months they've shocked the hell out of me. But thanks to my preseason evaluation of this team I still haven't completely bought into the fact that this group is who they were over that 10 game stretch. Granted, 10 games is far from " just a hot streak", but it will likely take the full season before I step back and say, "Hmmm...maybe Huger has finally figured it out."

Here's hoping the next 10 games go more like the previous 10, and less like Miami. At this point we're 20 games into the season and we've pretty much seen it all from this group so I have no idea what the hell to expect. I do know that I've seen enough to say that if they play the game the right way this team is talented enough to win a lot of games in this conference (which admittedly I wasn't sure of going into the year). I also know that the team is NOT talented enough to beat most of the MAC if they play the way they have for the previous 3 seasons.

Move your feet, pass the ball, compete on defense. Do those things, and this could be the special group some are touting them as. IF they aren't willing to do those things on a game in/game out basis they're just another blip on the long list of "could have beens" in BG hoops history.

[BleedOrange]

JFC, the wordcount out here is high. Look, sometimes a good team has a bad game. Simple. Such is the plight of mankind. We're still a good team. Buffalo is a better team and we'll probably lose again. That won't mean we won't still be a good team. Some of you guys would be better off on heroin.

[Flipper]

Heroin use has peaked and is beginning to wane. Meth is on the upswing....

[hammb]

JFC, the wordcount out here is high. Look, sometimes a good team has a bad game. Simple. Such is the plight of mankind. We're still a good team. Buffalo is a better team and we'll probably lose again. That won't mean we won't still be a good team. Some of you guys would be better off on heroin.

This is true, but I struggle right now with classifying us as a good team. Hence my issues.

I expected us to be a bad team.
Through 9 games we were a bad team.
Then we played 10 games as a (mostly) good team.
Then another as a bad team.

Are we the good team, or are we the bad team? Or (as I suspect) are we the mediocre team we've been for the better part of 15 years where you never know if we're good or bad?

Hopefully, we're the good team and this discussion is pointless.