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Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:29 pm

The driving while impaired stuff is no joke. (assuming he was actually impaired and not swerving because he was talking on a phone, sneezing, battling a leg cramp or any of a 100 or so other things that cause people to swerve.) but I'd be lying if I said I didn't do the same thing a number of times when I was young.....er.

So far as the marijuana goes...eh. I haven't always been on the sunny side of our nation's drug laws either. I don't think this is a big deal.

My change in avatars sure did turn out to be timely though

Metz · Post by **Metz** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:37 pm

Do I think he should get kicked off the team, no! But smoking pot is still a problem if it isn't just a one time thing. I guess what I was saying by claiming there is harm in it was directed at Germain's health. He is a good kid and shouldn't be kicked off the team or anything. But it is still a harmful personal issue he should deal with...

bgsubball · Post by **bgsubball** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:38 pm

Here is a little info about the incident for those who are curious

http://www.foxtoledo.com/index.cfm?acti ... ryid=60827

Go Falcons!! Good luck tomorrow at Western!

bacn3 · Post by **bacn3** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:44 pm

Man, when they said he returned to the court i was like ahhh what?? Then i got it, they might want to make that a little more clear in a case like this

OptionQB · Post by **OptionQB** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:48 pm

A bad decision by Germain and the absolute right call by Dakich and staff. I realize the year he has had, but this is inexcusable. Hopefully everything works itself out with everyone involved and we can see the guys that made the trip make better decisions than this one.

ialone82 · Post by **ialone82** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:49 pm

McMetz811 wrote:Do I think he should get kicked off the team, no! But smoking pot is still a problem if it isn't just a one time thing. I guess what I was saying by claiming there is harm in it was directed at Germain's health. He is a good kid and shouldn't be kicked off the team or anything. But it is still a harmful personal issue he should deal with...

For the older guys on here and townies, such as myself, do you remember the incident surrounding Tony Reid? Wasn't he caught smoking in a car, not driving, and did he not get the boot for that? I believe he did, but my memory is not always reliable.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:54 pm

McMetz811 wrote:
BleedOrange wrote:It kills me to see a kid get in trouble over something so harmless.
Harmless? I guess I should go into more detailed. He was swerving while driving and got pulled over. He didn't have a license so he got cited for that. The officer then smelled pot and found residue on the floor and a burnt blunt in the ash tray. Smoking pot and driving is very harmless. Smoking it without driving can kill you as well so I wouldn't call that harmless.

Great points Metz

mossmaidi · Post by **mossmaidi** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 11:56 pm

I think Reid was caught in his own house dealing weed I thought. I could be wrong. He was a talent that definitely went to waste.

NY-BG-FAN · Post by **NY-BG-FAN** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:08 am

I am as progressive as the next guy and personally don't see marijuana use as any more harmful than students drinking alcohol, but the law is the law as we all know. Just as it is extremely dangerous to drink and drive, drug use and driving is about the same peril. I am sorry to hear this but I wish Germain the best and hope it was all a misunderstanding. Hopefully this will not serve as a distraction to an extremely focused team gunning for the top of the MAC. I will be up in Kalamazoo tomorrow night, look forward to seeing all the brown and orange there.

Metz · Post by **Metz** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 1:53 am

ialone82 wrote: For the older guys on here and townies, such as myself, do you remember the incident surrounding Tony Reid? Wasn't he caught smoking in a car, not driving, and did he not get the boot for that? I believe he did, but my memory is not always reliable.

I was still a young in and thought Tony Reid graduated...didn't know he got the boot. Seeing him spot up and hit the 3 from the corner was a beautiful sight!!!

Germainfitch1 · Post by **Germainfitch1** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 2:08 am

kdog27 wrote:
McMetz811 wrote:
BleedOrange wrote:It kills me to see a kid get in trouble over something so harmless.
Harmless? I guess I should go into more detailed. He was swerving while driving and got pulled over. He didn't have a license so he got cited for that. The officer then smelled pot and found residue on the floor and a burnt blunt in the ash tray. Smoking pot and driving is very harmless. Smoking it without driving can kill you as well so I wouldn't call that harmless.
Great points Metz

Great points Metz? What was your favorite one KDog? Mine is the one where Metz writes that Smoking pot and driving is very harmless.

It seems like you need to not pick and choose who you can decipher and who you can't.

I understood what you meant Metz and think you have a good point but you seem a bit ignorant on the subject. As am I. I have never smoked pot but would not say I never looked into it. I am curious as to how exactly pot can kill you without driving? Like you say in the post. I mean I guess if you were impaired and had slow judgment and picked up a gun. But beer is much more dangerous than pot.

Metz I love your spirit and love having you as a fellow BG fan and eventual alum so please don't see this as an insult. Most people are ignorant of most topics. I certainly am. I could not tell you a thing about BG Hockey or women's basketball.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:55 am

McMetz811 wrote:Harmless? I guess I should go into more detailed. He was swerving while driving and got pulled over. He didn't have a license so he got cited for that. The officer then smelled pot and found residue on the floor and a burnt blunt in the ash tray. Smoking pot and driving is very harmless. Smoking it without driving can kill you as well so I wouldn't call that harmless.

No one has ever died smoking marijuana.

The impression one gets from the Fox 36 report is that Fitch may have been driving under the influence (**EDIT FROM SCHADENFREUDE **: But note Flipper's next post, which notes that Fitch claims it was a buddy's pot and that he didn't smoke any. That changes this post a great deal), which would elevate the seriousness of this in the eyes of the law. That said, it is difficult for police to actually charge people for driving while under the influence of marijuana. There isn't a simple breath test. I guess we'll find out what the charges were, exactly, when The Blade posts today's stories in about an hour.

I guess the worst part about this, from Dakich's point of view, is this:

I think we can assume Dakich has been spending less time at home with his wife and kids during this stretch run. I would guess he is watching film, running practices and doing all the other things that good coaches do in hopes of getting this team ready to finally win an NCAA tournament for the first time in 37 years.

Meanwhile, here is Fitch, apparently accused of fooling around with stuff that makes you slow. Pot isn't as easy to shake off as a hangover. It messes with your sleep a bit and it can make some people extra forgetful for a few days after it is smoked.

If true, that would show a real lack of commitment to the team -- and if I'm Dakich, that's why he would be angry.

Random thought: I do wonder if these new academic standards are going to put coaches in a bit of a box from a discliplinary point of view.

Kicking Fitch completely off the team would seem to be a severe overreaction -- but if Dakich had a mind to do that, it would be a black mark on his graduation rate.

With these new academic standards, coaching is going to get tougher.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:17 am

Per the Blade, Fitch says he dropped a friend off at a dorm and that the pot was his friend's. The seeds and other residue were found on the passenger side floor.

golfertk14 · Post by **golfertk14** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:01 am

well if he takes responsibility for it, and does something to help himself, then I gotta respect that. Too many player don't take responsibility today...i.e. Barry Bonds, Kobe Bryant, and of course Carmelo "That's Not MY Joint" Anthony.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:11 am

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... 64/-1/NEWS

If Fitch is telling the truth about it being his friends dope, do you think the friend will come forward and admit it?

RUMOR REVEALED

Here is the Blade story.