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[factman]

Still looking for “waterboy”!

[roguewarrior]

Where is Uoftoledofans at? Sure had a big mouth.

[RangerRocket]

It was Christmas morning and we actually got a BB gun!!

LOL, good one!!!

[falconfan1999]

Man was i wrong about this game! But I’m very happy i was! Great win Falcons!

[Falconfreak90]

I honestly don't think Candle is that good of a HC....he was totally out coached by a first year HC. We wanted it more....simple. Coach put so much emphasis on this game from Day 1...as it should be. We punched ut in the mouth on the very first play and they seemed timid the whole game.

I thought about that damn streak every day...every single effin day. Now it's time to start our own streak.

ROLL ALONG!!!

[zete]

They could do better for the money they give him.......but they did beat BYU in front of their own faithful.

[Antimob]

I won't report 10 paragraphs but I don't think anything in my original response questioning why Toledo had (past tense ) won is incorrect.

1) Does the University of Toledo not have an open admission policy and does this policy not make it easier to bring students of all stripes (not just athletes) to campus when the only restriction is the presence or absence of a diploma?

2) Is there not a difference between playing one P5 team and multiple (in many cases 3) P5 teams out of conference? And when that single game is played does it not matter if it's a mid-level P5 or a consistent traditional power like Notre Dame?

3) Has Jason Candle not been on the UT staff since 2009, and has that coaching stability and consistency not given them an advantage over us when we've had 7 head coaches since 2013?

4) Did Kingston's hires (Babers/Jinks) not hemorrhage massive amounts of players resulting in holes and a lack of depth that we're only beginning to dig ourselves out of? Unlike the first three this is something we can control and hopefully do a better job of.

Loeffler. Loy. Lautanen. Legends.

[Falconwriter]

The quality of rivalry week would be much, much improved for next year with wittier trolling.

Did you forget what school these Rockettes attend?

[Redwingtom]

I won't report 10 paragraphs but I don't think anything in my original response questioning why Toledo had (past tense ) won is incorrect.

1) Does the University of Toledo not have an open admission policy and does this policy not make it easier to bring students of all stripes (not just athletes) to campus when the only restriction is the presence or absence of a diploma?

Yes, I do believe they have open enrollment, but I do not believe that applies to athletes. They go through some type of clearing house I believe, and if they clear, they can play anywhere. So no, football players at Toledo aren't magically there because they can't get into other schools.

[Antimob]

Yes, I do believe they have open enrollment, but I do not believe that applies to athletes. They go through some type of clearing house I believe, and if they clear, they can play anywhere. So no, football players at Toledo aren't magically there because they can't get into other schools.

But the individual university has discretion to accept/reject based on its own standards. Northwestern, Stanford and Duke exclude the largest percentage at the FBS level based on the selectivity of their admissions process. An open enrollment institution by definition has zero restrictions.

[TommyG]

Yes, I do believe they have open enrollment, but I do not believe that applies to athletes. They go through some type of clearing house I believe, and if they clear, they can play anywhere. So no, football players at Toledo aren't magically there because they can't get into other schools.

But the individual university has discretion to accept/reject based on its own standards. Northwestern, Stanford and Duke exclude the largest percentage at the FBS level based on the selectivity of their admissions process. An open enrollment institution by definition has zero restrictions.

Your point was that they had some type of admissions advantage over BGSU that was helping their football program. In almost every single case, if an athlete can get in UT, he can get into BGSU. The NCAA requirements are stricter than general admissions at either school.
Toledo does have some advantages in the ability to recruit parts of Michigan and those kids don’t pay out of state tuition. That is more of a factor in sports that give out partial scholarships.
Yes Stanford, ND, Northwestern, Vandy, and the military schools all have stricter admissions standards that make it more difficult to recruit in all sports. That had nothing to do with your original point. BG and UT can recruit and sign kids with the same academic background. Neither has an advantage in Full Scholarship sports.