2020 schedule changes to come?

[guest44]

Nobody worry. Bob says they will have football this school year. Bob says that not based on anything actually known, but because that's the only way his department does not become a shell of its' current form.

[BillyLP]

and you end up with thousands of young people who are either dead or left with life long battles with heart and lung disorders, when none of them should have even gotten sick in the first place. .

What are you talking about? Should have never gotten sick in the first place? ITS A VIRUS !!! There are literally trillions of them. The one that kills me, might not give you a rash..... man, you need some counseling or something. Get back to reality....

Jesus Christ, how is this even an argument? It's a virus that is basically only spreading in the countries who haven't legitimately tried shutting everything down for a few weeks. A virus we have the capability to squash while minimizing the impact on the population, yet choose not to because instant gratification is too important. I work with epidemiologists. I work with lung transplant surgeons who are preparing for a severe shortage in available organs. I think you're the one who needs a reality check.

[mbenecke]

For me, it's not even about the risks this poses for the student-athletes. Yes, of course I care about them - but for the most part, people my age are going to be fine.

It's much more of a concern that people can be asymptomatic and still pass it on to others. So while I'm not incredibly worried about student to student transmission, I'm incredibly worried about student to coach transmission, or worse yet - imagine a student comes home after a game or their parents come to town to take them to dinner, and the student passes along the virus to their dad who has diabetes or their mother who has asthma. Then what happens if their parent dies? Or they come home and accidentally give it to a great aunt or a grandparent, and they die? This could happen at an ALARMING rate across 100 players on 130 teams.

To me, this is so much bigger than just "the kids are safe, let them play" because there is so much more to consider here. Kids don't only interact with themselves - they interact with their loved ones, their teachers, their friends, etc.

I want football. I'm (figuratively) dying to have sports back. I need to root on our Falcons as soon as possible. But I've fully accepted that it isn't safe to do so right now, so I'm willing to wait until it is safe to do so before we get our sports back.

Please, please take this seriously so we can see the orange and brown back out there kicking some ass soon.

[BillyLP]

I'd much rather see football move to the spring when there is going to be far less risk

How do you figure that? I remember when summer was supposed to be safe. I remember when we were supposed to be back at work by Memorial Day. Heck, I remember "15 days to slow the spread". I don't see the rationale in expecting spring will be better, especially when flu season is between now and then.

I'm personally just judging it on the advancement of potential vaccines, because Lord knows masks and social distancing will be too much to ask for. The vaccination experts at my hospital have started human trials (for which I am volunteering, so, fingers crossed) and think they would have one ready no later than February, and they are like third or fourth in the process. There is a legitimately good chance a vaccine will be available to the high risk population by Christmas, and expanded availability by March.

[roguewarrior]

and you end up with thousands of young people who are either dead or left with life long battles with heart and lung disorders, when none of them should have even gotten sick in the first place. .

What are you talking about? Should have never gotten sick in the first place? ITS A VIRUS !!! There are literally trillions of them. The one that kills me, might not give you a rash..... man, you need some counseling or something. Get back to reality....

Jesus Christ, how is this even an argument? It's a virus that is basically only spreading in the countries who haven't legitimately tried shutting everything down for a few weeks. A virus we have the capability to squash while minimizing the impact on the population, yet choose not to because instant gratification is too important. I work with epidemiologists. I work with lung transplant surgeons who are preparing for a severe shortage in available organs. I think you're the one who needs a reality check.

When you solve how “no one gets sick in the first place” let us know at your Nobel Prize ceremony. What countries? China? Have you been there? I have a dozen times... they have not prevented the spread in any way, shape or form. Japan? Maybe look past the masks and look at their healthy population with under 3% .... yes 3% obesity....VS our 46+ % rate.... nothing solved, just weak herds vs. strong.

[BillyLP]

and you end up with thousands of young people who are either dead or left with life long battles with heart and lung disorders, when none of them should have even gotten sick in the first place. .

What are you talking about? Should have never gotten sick in the first place? ITS A VIRUS !!! There are literally trillions of them. The one that kills me, might not give you a rash..... man, you need some counseling or something. Get back to reality....

Jesus Christ, how is this even an argument? It's a virus that is basically only spreading in the countries who haven't legitimately tried shutting everything down for a few weeks. A virus we have the capability to squash while minimizing the impact on the population, yet choose not to because instant gratification is too important. I work with epidemiologists. I work with lung transplant surgeons who are preparing for a severe shortage in available organs. I think you're the one who needs a reality check.

When you solve how “no one gets sick in the first place” let us know at your Nobel Prize ceremony. What countries? China? Have you been there? I have a dozen times... they have not prevented the spread in any way, shape or form. Japan? Maybe look past the masks and look at their healthy population with under 3% .... yes 3% obesity....VS our 46+ % rate.... nothing solved, just weak herds vs. strong.

Countries that shut down:

#'s from yesterday, on steady decline
Italy: 150 new cases, 17 deaths
Germany: 400 new cases, 5 deaths
Spain: 650 new cases, 0 deaths
Canada: 200 new cases, 8 deaths
France: 500 new cases, 71 deaths (a massive spike compared to the previous month of days)

Countries that didn't shut down:

#'s from yesterday, on steady incline
Brazil: 42,000 new cases, 1,300 deaths
US: 62,000 new cases, 935 deaths
Sweden: 174 new cases, 11 deaths (Throwing this one in as the anomaly, though their death rate in the last three months is 28% above average. Also their entire country has like 20 people.)

I can bring in plenty of other graphs and numbers that are far more damning. Believe me, I have no shortage.

And miss me with the weak herd vs. strong. Have you been to Canada? The average Joe looks a lot more like beer league curler than a hockey player.

[roguewarrior]

And all your graphs are meaningless because the data in them is all bad. It’s the flu, that gets bad on people who are ill and obese, and barely effects anyone that is not old , weak, Ill or obese. 99.98 + chance you will live.... can’t get much better prognosis, can you??

[BillyLP]

And all your graphs are meaningless because the data in them is all bad. It’s the flu, that gets bad on people who are ill and obese, and barely effects anyone that is not old , weak, Ill or obese. 99.98 + chance you will live.... can’t get much better prognosis, can you??

Yes, 99.9% of scientists in the world believe the data is correct, but I will listen to the ignorant people who shout the loudest, instead. This isn’t a political game, it’s people dying of avoidable causes, and we are one of the only countries that seems to not give a s**t. I pray no one in your family gets it seriously. It is a painful thing to witness. My dad died of the flu last March, I know what the flu can do to people. The flu pales in comparison to what this disease is capable of.

[threestooges]

And all your graphs are meaningless because the data in them is all bad. It’s the flu, that gets bad on people who are ill and obese, and barely effects anyone that is not old , weak, Ill or obese. 99.98 + chance you will live.... can’t get much better prognosis, can you??

Yes, 99.9% of scientists in the world believe the data is correct, but I will listen to the ignorant people who shout the loudest, instead. This isn’t a political game, it’s people dying of avoidable causes, and we are one of the only countries that seems to not give a s**t. I pray no one in your family gets it seriously. It is a painful thing to witness. My dad died of the flu last March, I know what the flu can do to people. The flu pales in comparison to what this disease is capable of.

Here is a fact (It's not my point of view. It's fact.) Please note, before we get started, that I am not a doctor...

Drumstix is right. About everything.


Here is my point of view (some, but not all, of the following two paragraphs contain facts)...

The next person who says 'it's a bad flu' or 'masks don't help' can go wash the dishes in a hospital kitchen using only his tongue. The scientists and epidemiologists probably know what they're talking about, and they are NOT in their chosen field for the purpose of lying to the American public.

And spare me with the stupid quotes about the death rate. By your logic, if someone suffers a stroke and is in a permanent vegetative state, it's perfectly fine because he didn't die. Wear the GD mask, listen to the experts and stop swinging your dick around and saying it's a bad flu. You don't deserve to have football or other nice things.

[FalconTurf]

And all your graphs are meaningless because the data in them is all bad. It’s the flu, that gets bad on people who are ill and obese, and barely effects anyone that is not old , weak, Ill or obese. 99.98 + chance you will live.... can’t get much better prognosis, can you??

Yes, 99.9% of scientists in the world believe the data is correct, but I will listen to the ignorant people who shout the loudest, instead. This isn’t a political game, it’s people dying of avoidable causes, and we are one of the only countries that seems to not give a s**t. I pray no one in your family gets it seriously. It is a painful thing to witness. My dad died of the flu last March, I know what the flu can do to people. The flu pales in comparison to what this disease is capable of.

Here is a fact (It's not my point of view. It's fact.) Please note, before we get started, that I am not a doctor...

Drumstix is right. About everything.


Here is my point of view (some, but not all, of the following two paragraphs contain facts)...

The next person who says 'it's a bad flu' or 'masks don't help' can go wash the dishes in a hospital kitchen using only his tongue. The scientists and epidemiologists probably know what they're talking about, and they are NOT in their chosen field for the purpose of lying to the American public.

And spare me with the stupid quotes about the death rate. By your logic, if someone suffers a stroke and is in a permanent vegetative state, it's perfectly fine because he didn't die. Wear the GD mask, listen to the experts and stop swinging your dick around and saying it's a bad flu. You don't deserve to have football or other nice things.

If they remade Gilligan's Island the plot would involve getting all expert opinion from the millionaire and attempting to push the professor in quicksand. Is this how America loses it's status as THE World Power?

[Falconwriter]

And all your graphs are meaningless because the data in them is all bad. It’s the flu, that gets bad on people who are ill and obese, and barely effects anyone that is not old , weak, Ill or obese. 99.98 + chance you will live.... can’t get much better prognosis, can you??

It is not the flu. Humans, in general, have some built-in immunity to all of the known flu viruses. We also use a yearly vaccine to strengthen the immune systems of those most vulnerable, and prevent tens of thousands of serious illnesses and deaths because of it.

This is a novel virus that affects people in ways flu never has and never will. People are experiencing long-term effects like blood clots, lung damage and neurological problems, along with fatigue that seems to linger for months. No flu has ever done that. This virus is also more deadly than the flu is, most years. Way more deadly. And it's another potentially life-threatening virus IN ADDITION TO everything else that is out there.

People who dismiss it as not that serious are being foolish. You may not be someone at high risk, but I'm betting there are a lot of people among your family and friends who are. Do you really want to be among those who ignore ways to very easily stop the spread of this and end up endangering one of them? Seriously, how hard is it to wear a mask in public places and keep your distance. If everyone would just do this for a while, this virus would burn itself out, for the most part, and by then we'd likely have a vaccine close to ready.

[fredthefalcon]

And all your graphs are meaningless because the data in them is all bad. It’s the flu, that gets bad on people who are ill and obese, and barely effects anyone that is not old , weak, Ill or obese. 99.98 + chance you will live.... can’t get much better prognosis, can you??

So let's just make it easy. Who in your family and friends are you willing to sacrifice because they are old, weak, ill or obese or that may in come in contact with a n asymptomatic you, your son, wife, or fellow college student?

[Critical Thinker]

So while I'm not incredibly worried about student to student transmission, I'm incredibly worried about student to coach transmission, or worse yet - imagine a student comes home after a game or their parents come to town to take them to dinner, and the student passes along the virus to their dad who has diabetes or their mother who has asthma. Then what happens if their parent dies? Or they come home and accidentally give it to a great aunt or a grandparent, and they die? This could happen at an ALARMING rate across 100 players on 130 teams.

Is the alternative to playing football sitting in a dorm room all day? If a player leaves his room to do pretty much anything, he's at risk of catching the virus. With or without a football season the only sure way to stop him from passing the virus on to a vulnerable relative is to quarantine the relative.

[pdt1081]

And all your graphs are meaningless because the data in them is all bad. It’s the flu, that gets bad on people who are ill and obese, and barely effects anyone that is not old , weak, Ill or obese. 99.98 + chance you will live.... can’t get much better prognosis, can you??

So let's just make it easy. Who in your family and friends are you willing to sacrifice because they are old, weak, ill or obese or that may in come in contact with a n asymptomatic you, your son, wife, or fellow college student?

I see the above all the time. "Choose someone to die." "Choose someone to die," etc. LIFE is 100% terminal. If you're not LIVING, what's the point? You can stay home, in your safe little bubble forever. Don't go anywhere, eat only soft, healthy foods, etc. You'll be perfectly fine right up till the day you kill yourself. There's risk in everyday life. We accept it in order to keep LIVING. A virus with a 99.9x% survival rate is part of that risk.

[roguewarrior]

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