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mbenecke wrote:Coach Loeffler said after the game that we’re also without WR Coach Erik Campbell, who is going through some family stuff. Jordan Strack reported after the game that, “it doesn’t sound like he will be back.”

I’m not sure if that means he won’t be back this season or he won’t be back at all, but I guess it’s something to monitor.

It’s so hard to even be playing football right now with everything going on in the world outside the game that still somehow impacts the game. Unbelievably proud of the way we still fight even in this crazy world we’re living in right now.
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My big critique was going for it on 4th and 9 from the 50 when it was 21-3. He has done that before, putting the D in a bad spot. We cleaned things up, came out with a lot of energy on the sideline. When you look at the teams handling us, look at their O lines..... Buffalo was big. Toledo is Huge. We moved forward from last week. I feel ok.
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Luckily Buffalo didn’t want to do anything more than keep the clock moving and get the game over. Could’ve been much, much uglier.
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Buffalo passed 12 times and scored 42 points. They could have had much more had they any urgency. Running game was much better. Find a quarterback who can run and Bowling Green might be able to score again. McDonald is not good. Calling him Matt Schilz is an insult to Matt Schilz. Schilz was thrown to the fire as a true freshman, McDonald has been with Loeffler 4 plus years and is probably the worst qb Bowling Green has had in 30 years. Plus, Loeffler banked 1 million dollars and atleast 2 years of football on him. Speaking of Loeffler, how about the decision to kick a field goal on 4th and 2. He had the wind at his back, had already converted a 4th down, then waited too long to decide and allowed the quarter to run out. He then makes his kicker kick the field goal into the wind which he misses. Also, why no onside kick down 35-17? Loeffler showed a little more fight last night. He didn’t do the run the play clock down to 5 seconds and surrender offense in the 2nd half this week.
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Final stats from last night:

Matt McDonald - 17/27 for 219 yards
Andrew Clair - 14 carries for 85 yards
Terion Stewart - 9 carries for 42 yards and 2 TD
Julian Ortega-Jones - 6 catches, 67 yards
Quintin Morris - 4 catches, 61 yards
Noah Massey - 3 catches, 55 yards

Darren Anders also added 14 total tackles (6 solo) last night.

Young guys seem like they're starting to show up. McDonald was more confident, and that made us feel more competitive. We put up 399 yards of total offense last night, and it felt like we were a lot more balanced. If McDonald becomes more consistent, and we can figure out a way to finish drives, we'll start clicking a lot better.

Ohio is gonna be tough, and it will probably look similar to this, but I liked the fight we showed and the improvement for this game was noticeable.
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guest44 wrote:Buffalo passed 12 times and scored 42 points. They could have had much more had they any urgency. Running game was much better. Find a quarterback who can run and Bowling Green might be able to score again. McDonald is not good. Calling him Matt Schilz is an insult to Matt Schilz. Schilz was thrown to the fire as a true freshman, McDonald has been with Loeffler 4 plus years and is probably the worst qb Bowling Green has had in 30 years. Plus, Loeffler banked 1 million dollars and atleast 2 years of football on him. Speaking of Loeffler, how about the decision to kick a field goal on 4th and 2. He had the wind at his back, had already converted a 4th down, then waited too long to decide and allowed the quarter to run out. He then makes his kicker kick the field goal into the wind which he misses. Also, why no onside kick down 35-17? Loeffler showed a little more fight last night. He didn’t do the run the play clock down to 5 seconds and surrender offense in the 2nd half this week.
Schilz never took a snap as a true freshman in '09. Thrown into the fire as a redshirt freshman in '10.
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My mistake, he redshirted during ‘09 bowl season under Clawson with Sheehan. Clawson didn’t run the QB room off. Doesn’t change that McDonald has been historically bad. Zero TDs through in 3 MAC games in 2020 Football while taking every garbage time snap. Amazing really.
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Team showed more fight tonight. The big difference though was our ability to extend a few drives in the first half and keep UB to only 4 possessions which prevented them from blowing us out in the first half like the last 2 games. Of course we still have little chance of actually SCORING so instead our offensive philosophy is to try and run out the clock and hope we luck into a 3-0 win.

I'm still not sure about this coaching. Going for it on 4th & 9 from midfield, but kicking a FG on 4th & 2. Keeping McDonald in all game long in a blowout when you could look at some other options just to get them reps. The RB rotation just seems odd to me. Stewart looks like he has potential but I put zero stock in rushing and short passing numbers accumulated in the 4th quarter of blowouts...those numbers are meaningless. We wasted a season last year bitching that our chosen QB got screwed by the NCAA only to find out this year he can't play. I cannot fathom watching that throwing motion and recruiting him to play in the ACC, that's absurd. When we design rollouts to the right to give him easy reads/throws he completed some passes last night, which was an improvement over the last 2 weeks, but he's still led the offense to exactly one meaningful TD this season through 3 games.

The talent disparity on the lines is definitely making things ridiculously difficult, but what we're trying to do, given that disparity is asinine. I find it very interesting that he's trying to build the program in the image of Clawson when Clawson ran a backwards out of date scheme when he was here 8 years ago. It worked once he accumulated enough talent to out talent all of our competitors, but he was still woeful in big games or OOC matchups. This roster is a long ways from out-talenting anybody in the MAC, I'd like to see some more creative scheming to try and overcome that.
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While McDonald finally put up numbers that most would agree were at least decent all things considered (especially considering how terrible he was the first two games), he’s clearly not a good QB. In fact, I’m struggling to think of a worse starting QB at BG since I started following the program since the early 1990’s. I can’t think of one.

And it’s not just one thing with him, as if he just needs to work on something to fix his issue, it’s a number of things. First and foremost, it starts (and ultimately ends) with his technique and mechanics. The shoulder dip and long windup and not just an unorthodox look, they are directly leading to wounded-duck passes where the ball in nowhere near a spiral. It would be one thing if he had a poor delivery but delivered a nice ball. He does not. Someone a couple weeks ago mentioned Omar Jacobs had a hitch in his throw. Yes, he did, but nothing like this whatsoever. And what’s more, he was still one of the nation’s best QB’s throwing for over 4,000 yards with a 41-4 ratio - IN ONE SEASON! You cannot make that comparison at all. I completely understand not messing with a guy’s mechanics when he’s being effective, but McDonald is clearly a case of bad mechanics leading to poor performances. And I’m not talking about on busted protection. I’m talking about even when he has time in a clean pocket. I really wish someone would as SL about it and I’d love to hear his explanation on it. Because there’s no way to sugar coat what we keep seeing. It’s bad, and this isn’t going to get fixed.
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I was the one who mentioned Omar. And 33, here's what I said after the UT game. It is a contrast not a comparison:

Rusty is the word I use for McDonald. The throwing mechanics are rusty. If he's completing a lot of throws, it doesn't really matter. Jacobs had an odd throwing motion but it didn't matter because the guy hit anyone anywhere on the field. McDonald missed some very routine throws. Rusty. Hopefully will improve. And generally slow reads and release.



I didn't get to watch much of last night. Of what I saw McDonald looked better. Morris dropped what should have been a beautiful TD pass. Concerns me that the team put up 400 yards but only 17 points. That is awful ypp. I didn't get to see the 4th down decisions in question.
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footballguy51 wrote:Best thing to read:

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The #2 QB Davis was out. The #3 Keller is clearly not ready. Milton, arguably the future, is injured and out for the season. Those pining for another QB will have to wait. Why not give this guy every snap all fall to get reps and truly see what you have?? Dude hasn’t played a game since HS.... it may take a few more games.... ugh .
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roguewarrior wrote:The #2 QB Davis was out. The #3 Keller is clearly not ready. Milton, arguably the future, is injured and out for the season. Those pining for another QB will have to wait. Why not give this guy every snap all fall to get reps and truly see what you have?? Dude hasn’t played a game since HS.... it may take a few more games.... ugh .
A bit of a digression, but is the staff/team really that much higher on Melton than Keller? I felt that Keller looked like the more gifted QB in highlights. Good arm with a quick release, and much more mobile than Melton.
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roguewarrior wrote:Those pining for another QB will have to wait. Why not give this guy every snap all fall to get reps and truly see what you have?? Dude hasn’t played a game since HS.... it may take a few more games.... ugh .

Fours years with Loeffler now. He played a couple games at BC in '18 unless you mean starts and took almost all the one snaps last year. I would hope Loeffler knows knows by now.
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