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Press conference was 11/12. Announced publicly 11/17, 2 hours before kickoff. Anyone know why the normal kickoff guy didn’t play?
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So, it all lines up time wise
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Call me crazy, but I don't think pissing positive for weed is grounds for dismissal. If someone's work ethic sucks, or if they are a negative presence in the locker room, different story, but I could care less if a college student smokes a joint every now and then.
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Tony4BG wrote:So, it all lines up time wise
If so, you find out a few of the kids you have been counting on are not all-in, and you will coach the rest of the week and game day next week with half your staff...... and then nimrods questioning why we are not undefeated.
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drumstix2388 wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't think pissing positive for weed is grounds for dismissal. If someone's work ethic sucks, or if they are a negative presence in the locker room, different story, but I could care less if a college student smokes a joint every now and then.
Are you serious? If you are on a football team, you put those things aside. Getting baked does not go together with a focused football player. You must have no idea what a really dialed in athlete does day to day. Ugh
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drumstix2388 wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't think pissing positive for weed is grounds for dismissal. If someone's work ethic sucks, or if they are a negative presence in the locker room, different story, but I could care less if a college student smokes a joint every now and then.
I agree unless there's a team rule that makes such activity verboten.
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I’m sure it isn’t the first positive test if they are cutting guys. The concern is we are almost 2 full years under this staff and they are still “purging” players. They shouldn’t be still trying to get guys to buy in. All these players recruited from the previous staff can’t be bad apples.
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TalonsUpPuckDown wrote: I agree unless there's a team rule that makes such activity verboten.
Fair. Rules are rules and should be followed.
roguewarrior wrote: Are you serious? If you are on a football team, you put those things aside. Getting baked does not go together with a focused football player. You must have no idea what a really dialed in athlete does day to day. Ugh
If you're smoking all the time and letting it truly impact your life and performance, I totally agree. And that might be the case with some of these guys! In a couple of previous jobs I was lucky enough to work along athletes that are currently in the NBA & NFL (and a few minor league baseball guys). About 80% of them smoke weed from time to time (So did a lot of the BG players under Clawson while I was a student). Smart, hard working guys who eat healthy and rarely drink booze. If I were a coach, I'd rather my players have a weed gummy on a Saturday night than drink 15 beers.

But as TUPD pointed out, if there is a team rule, there is no excuse and punishment is warranted. I just personally don't think it's bad enough to kick someone off unless it is truly impacting their performance.
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drumstix2388 wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't think pissing positive for weed is grounds for dismissal. If someone's work ethic sucks, or if they are a negative presence in the locker room, different story, but I could care less if a college student smokes a joint every now and then.
I don't know about you, but my paycheck relies on my ability to pass a test like that.
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[quote="TommyG"]I’m sure it isn’t the first positive test if they are cutting guys. The concern is we are almost 2 full years under this staff and they are still “purging” players. They shouldn’t be still trying to get guys to buy in. All these players recruited from the previous staff can’t be bad apples.[/quote

If they are buying in, they are not getting popped for the third time.... or, the second time, after a list of other offenses. They keep some guys around, because they have to.... until they reach the end. No one in the NFL could get Josh Gordon to buy in, so it is not necessarily a coaching flaw. I would be angry if there was nothing being asked to buy into (see Jinks).
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pdt1081 wrote:
drumstix2388 wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't think pissing positive for weed is grounds for dismissal. If someone's work ethic sucks, or if they are a negative presence in the locker room, different story, but I could care less if a college student smokes a joint every now and then.
I don't know about you, but my paycheck relies on my ability to pass a test like that.
Same and add in the presence of nicotine for me. Any trace of drugs or nicotine is cause for immediate termination in my world.
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pdt1081 wrote:
drumstix2388 wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't think pissing positive for weed is grounds for dismissal. If someone's work ethic sucks, or if they are a negative presence in the locker room, different story, but I could care less if a college student smokes a joint every now and then.
I don't know about you, but my paycheck relies on my ability to pass a test like that.
My first job out of BG technically had random testing, but otherwise, no. In fact, a pretty solid portion of my friends and colleagues partake pretty regularly. Granted, recreational or medicinal weed has been legal where I've lived for a majority of that time.
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FYI: the first offense is a warning. No one gets tossed for that. These are dudes with multiple offenses and prior suspensions. Misfits that can’t conform. Being a D1 football player that lasts is hard.
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drumstix2388 wrote:
pdt1081 wrote:
drumstix2388 wrote:Call me crazy, but I don't think pissing positive for weed is grounds for dismissal. If someone's work ethic sucks, or if they are a negative presence in the locker room, different story, but I could care less if a college student smokes a joint every now and then.
I don't know about you, but my paycheck relies on my ability to pass a test like that.
My first job out of BG technically had random testing, but otherwise, no. In fact, a pretty solid portion of my friends and colleagues partake pretty regularly. Granted, recreational or medicinal weed has been legal where I've lived for a majority of that time.
I have no problem with weed when it doesn’t impact someone’s life. If you smoke regularly, you know you aren’t functioning at full mental or physical capacity, when baked. Maybe that’s why they are late for practice, get bad grades, and can’t remember the plays?!?
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I'm all for dismissal or at least major punishment for drug related incidents. I am a Falcon Club donor. Some of my donation ends up as stipend for players I presume. If there's any way that money gets used for drugs, I'd be extraordinarily upset. Similar token, if players use money they would normally use for food, but don't have to due to Falcon Club contributions, on weed, I am distraught. Good for the administration getting this crap under control.
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