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fredthefalcon wrote:
Tony4BG wrote:Off top my head.

Nick Saban
Dabo Swinney
Kirk Ferentz
Gary Patterson
Urban Meyer

Bet more.
There probably is a lot more but Saban was on the hot seat with the Dolphins. He had a losing record in two seasons and jumped ship to Bama soon after a 6-10 season and repeated denials of interest in the Alabama job.
And Swinney was fired from Alabama before he went to Clemson.
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They were all fired from somewhere, at some point. Whether they were a GA or the head coach; individually fired or part of a group. They always pop up somewhere later, if they choose stay the course.
It’s not my point of view, it’s a fact.
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roguewarrior wrote:They were all fired from somewhere, at some point. Whether they were a GA or the head coach; individually fired or part of a group. They always pop up somewhere later, if they choose stay the course.
I'll say it again. Not Bo, Not Lloyd Carr.
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fredthefalcon wrote:
roguewarrior wrote:They were all fired from somewhere, at some point. Whether they were a GA or the head coach; individually fired or part of a group. They always pop up somewhere later, if they choose stay the course.
I'll say it again. Not Bo, Not Lloyd Carr.
Carr was part of a staff that got fired from Illinois in 1979, but it seems you're correct on Bo! Hell of a career to go about 50 years without a single firing. He was one of a kind.
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Clawson was fired in 2008. We hired him in 2009.
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drumstix2388 wrote:
fredthefalcon wrote:
roguewarrior wrote:They were all fired from somewhere, at some point. Whether they were a GA or the head coach; individually fired or part of a group. They always pop up somewhere later, if they choose stay the course.
I'll say it again. Not Bo, Not Lloyd Carr.
Carr was part of a staff that got fired from Illinois in 1979, but it seems you're correct on Bo! Hell of a career to go about 50 years without a single firing. He was one of a kind.


I knew Carr was at Illinois but I thought he just flipped to Michigan as an Assistant the next year. Must have been that he and Moellar went together that year. So Illinois fired two guys that became successful as head coaches at U of M and people wonder why Illinois is never good.
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roguewarrior wrote: Nice. That said, has there ever been a football staff that wasn't fired?
The life of a college football head coach - You're hired to be fired.
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Tucker Melton was cleared for throwing again yesterday, 228 days after his labrum surgery in May.

I'm really excited about this kid.
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Drew Gunther that signed today, red shirted last year from Syracuse appears promising. Don’t know the rules, or if they are bent....perhaps he walks in with a working knowledge of our playbook already?
It’s not my point of view, it’s a fact.
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roguewarrior wrote:Drew Gunther that signed today, red shirted last year from Syracuse appears promising. Don’t know the rules, or if they are bent....perhaps he walks in with a working knowledge of our playbook already?
He's enrolling early, so if he doesn't yet, he will come January.
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roguewarrior wrote:Drew Gunther that signed today, red shirted last year from Syracuse appears promising. Don’t know the rules, or if they are bent....perhaps he walks in with a working knowledge of our playbook already?
You'd think the job should be open in the spring and into fall camp. You'll have four QBs vying for the spot. My worry is Loeffler made promises to McDonald about being the starter and is going to stick to that in 2021.
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jpfalcon09 wrote:My worry is Loeffler made promises to McDonald about being the starter and is going to stick to that in 2021.
My hunch is that Loeffler did make some sort of commitment to McDonald about starting (with the usual caveats). Surely, at this point, he has kept his word.

With two more options on the roster, I'd be surprised if we don't see a competition for the starting role. This isn't a sinecure. McDonald needs to keep earning it.

I wouldn't be surprised if we have someone new under center next fall.
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BG and Loeffler recruits no star walk on from Syracuse Drew Gunther

Central Michigan and McElwain recruits 4⭐️ from Washington Jacob Sirmon

Really with all the QBs in the portal, not sure why Loeffler offered Gunther. Guess we will see how it all works out.
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I went back and listened to an interview that Scot Loeffler did with Phil Steele this past summer before the start of the season. Loeffler led off the interview with the QB position and the first player he talked about was Matt McDonald. He stated three things about McDonald, and I quote, "He's very smart, extremely accurate and has a quick release." I repeat, when asked about Matt McDonald, Loeffler said, "He's very smart, extremely accurate and has a quick release." After watching this season and looking back on these comments, I am not only perplexed, but my lack of faith in Loeffler took another major hit.

First off, I don't know Matt McDonald, but I'm 100% on board with taking Loeffler's comment that he's very smart at face value. McDonald went to a very good high school and got into to Boston College, so sure, I can believe that. However, what I have a MAJOR concern with is Loeffler saying McDonald is very accurate and has a quick release.....WTF???..... McDonald finish DEAD LAST in pretty much every passing category in the FBS and was nowhere on earth near "extremely accurate." What's more, with McDonald's shoulder drop, long windup and unorthodox throwing motion, he's nowhere near a QB with a "quick release." I mean WTF was Loeffler talking about??? If he truly believed that McDonald had/has those traits, then it's almost even more frightening than seeing this program plummet deeper into the abyss than from when Jinks had control over it.
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That is disturbing. The first time I saw Mcdonald release a pass this season, I assumed from that wonky motion that he must have torn a ligament in his elbow as he was in the process of delivering the throw. Nope.

I doubt very much that Mcdonald actually did have a quick and accurate release right up until the start of the season, then all of a sudden, week 1, he developed that frankenstein delivery. It's hard to imagine how a coach with as much experience as Loeffler, including both coaching QBs and playing the position himself, could evaluate Mcdonald using that description. It does put a lot into question.

Mcdonald was put in a tough position last year as a first year starter. He didn't have a big running game that opened up passing opportunities, he didn't have a stable full of all conference receivers to throw to or line to protect for him, so the fact that he didn't put up eye popping numbers is hardly surprising. Unless he is able to radically rework his delivery, I think the potential ceiling for him is going to be very low, even if the players around him improve. If Loeffler promised him the starting job, then he fulfilled that promise this season. I hope he has the sense to make it a fair and open competition going into next season and if someone else is performing better, he not let his decision be clouded by a promise he made years ago.

I wish Mcdonald well and hope he can somehow come back as a very different player next season. If he's vastly improved and wins the job because he's the best guy at the position, then so be it.
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