Merry Christmas,,,,Here come the Spring Student Fees

[guest44]

https://www.bgsu.edu/content/dam/BGSU/f ... Budget.pdf

BGSU budgeted to receive nearly 6.5 million in student fees to athletics on January 11th, 2021. Meanwhile 98% of all classes are remote, and students can't access most facilities, BGSU students basically paid to house athletes in hotels this summer, for seasons in which most didn't actually happen. BGSU budgeted nearly 9 million for athletics salaries. Basically, the BGSU students are paying for athletic salaries and for all the perks the fellow athletes receive. What a system. Students pay the fees and then have to understand all the reasons Covid has restricted access to the things they pay for. Meanwhile, 9 million to athletic salaries to try to play. I'm still waiting for Rodney Rogers to address it, he seems to respond to all emails except student general fee questions.

[guest44]

Meanwhile, here is the latest from Bob which includes a 3 million dollar shortfall despite the 13 million in student fees, sent via email...

Happy New Year!



Thank you for all of your support during 2020…a year that we will not forget! While we faced all sorts of challenges throughout 2020, BGSU Athletics came up with a plan for our student-athletes and asked them to stay positive, stay focused and do their best. I am so pleased to announce these Fall semester academic stats:

154 student-athletes with a perfect 4.0 semester GPA
53% over a 3.5 semester GPA
76% over a 3.0 semester GPA
3.42 cumulative GPA for all 400+ student-athletes
With a new hybrid model for in-person and virtual learning, our student-athletes took on the challenge and excelled. As our motto says, "Win it RIGHT" in the classroom, in the community and in competition. Congratulations to our student-athletes! Our incredible staff worked to put together a successful plan to host the 2020 MAC Cross Country Championships, which resulted in an outstanding event made better by the individual championship won by redshirt freshman Kailee Perry.



2021 will continue to challenge us because of the financial crisis caused by the global pandemic. We made difficult decisions of cutting budgets, implementing a hiring freeze and furloughing employees throughout the fall semester. As painful as it was, our staff understood the furlough decision saved nearly $500,000 or essentially 10 positions in our department. We look to brighter days for our employees who work hard regardless of furloughs and salary reductions; because they know the student-athlete experience is paramount to what we do.



Our vision for 2021 starts with an event-filled spring semester. Imagine for a minute the winter sports of men’s and women’s basketball, hockey, gymnastics, swim and dive and indoor track and field challenging for league championships. The fall sports of volleyball and men’s and women’s soccer have been rescheduled to the “spring”, and who can forget the fall of 2019 when we competed for championships in each of those sports on consecutive weekends. Finally, the spring sports of softball, tennis, track & field and men’s and women’s golf will return to competition after a long pandemic layoff, ready to take the next step for their respective programs. I purposely left baseball for last because if not for the tremendous support of alumni, parents and fans, we may not have had a 2021 season. There are so, so many things to have hope for as we turn to 2021. Believe!



Your support of the Falcon Club is absolutely critical and meaningful. During these times, your generosity is truly life-changing for both student-athletes and staff. As we continue to do everything possible to be fiscally responsible, not only as an athletics department but as a University, we ask for your support in our time of need. Athletics is facing a shortfall of approximately $3 million that could jeopardize our hopes and dreams. Since COVID-19 became our reality, I continue to be amazed and humbled by the support of everyone who calls themselves a Falcon. We need your investment now more than ever.



Let’s have a great 2021 together!



Go Falcons, Ay Ziggy Zoomba!

[Schadenfreude]

Why are these posts in the football forum?

[guest44]

Because some student is working through the details of borrowing money via student loans , to ensure Brian VanGorder gets paid $160,000 to coach that defense. Plus, the student isn't able to see the games they "pay admission" for.

[guest44]

Exclusive of the field house allocation of $25 per student per semester in 1992-93 and the Bowen-Thompson Student Union allocation of $80 per
student per semester in 2001-02, the General Fee has increased at an average rate of 4.3% per year since 1990-91 through 2004-05. Effective in
2006-07 the General Fee did not increase consistent with the 0% increase in tuition and general fees through Fall 2009. Effective Spring 2010, the
General Fee increased from $633 to $660, or 3.5% annualized. The General Fee was increased by 3.5% in FY 2011, FY 2012, FY 2013 and 2.0% in
FY 2014. The General Fee had not been increased for students enrolled prior to Fall 2018, since the Fall Semester of 2013. The General Fee
increased from $747 to $762 in FY 2019, or 2.0% annualized. Effective Fall 2020, the General Fee increased from $762 to $774, or 4.1%
annualized. The Falcon Tuition Guarantee Program came into effect Fall of 2018 and will admit its third cohort in Fall 2020

In addition, a dedicated facility fee in the amount of $60 per student (undergraduate and graduate) is assessed to provide debt service funding for the 30 year life of the Stroh Center debt.

[Schadenfreude]

Because some student is working through the details of borrowing money via student loans , to ensure Brian VanGorder gets paid $160,000 to coach that defense. Plus, the student isn't able to see the games they "pay admission" for.

Robyn Fralick, Ty Eigner, and Michael Huger also make good money. For public health reasons, students are not permitted at these games either.

So, again: Why have you posted this in the football forum?

[MarkL]

Okay. Are you in a good position to donate some to the Falcon Club as the AD asked? That is a good way to be helpful.

[guest44]

Correct. For health reasons the MAC originally postponed the 2020 Football season. In June 2020 knowing this was very likely, BGSU agreed to raise general fees in a pandemic by 4.1%. This after sending all students remote and knowing facilities would be closed to students in the Fall. Bob Moosbrugger submitted a budget that included Football guarantees which were unlikely at best. This increase in student fees helped offset the nearly 9 million dollars in athletic salaries. The biggest majority are associated to Bowling Green Football. I’ll let you know the number spent to house student athletes in hotels this summer. I’m waiting on that information. The decision to put student athletes in hotels in Bowling Green while classes were remote, was not for the public good from a health perspective. The majority of that was associated with Football also. Remember Bowling Green is a public university for the public good.

[roguewarrior]

The Hotel in summer only housed freshman/sophomores and kids without apartments. Walk on’s paid their own way, if they wanted to attend camp. Hotel was COVID empty, so it was cheap. They didn’t do housekeeping. I think pay to stay was $150 for the week.... not a big number.

[Schadenfreude]

This increase in student fees helped offset the nearly 9 million dollars in athletic salaries. The biggest majority are associated to Bowling Green Football.

BGSU general fee is used for all kinds of purposes, not just football and not just athletics.

It seems to be a better place for this thread would be the "Administration/Classes/Memories" room.

Unless you are suggesting that Bowling Green drop football or something. If that's your view, why not just come out and say it?

[guest44]

Per the link above roughly 55 percent for athletics in this particular budget. Bob Moosbrugger now oversees Recreation & Wellness which is another 8% (the next biggest percentage in the corruption that is general fees) that we can pretty much assume will begin to be funneled toward the athletics budget in some way shape or form. Why is Bob suddenly interested in Recreation & Wellness? Because it has general fee money. Imagine a department with 9 million in salaries actually being required to raise the funds to self sustain. In this scenario you would have much less tweets, and much more fundraising. Yes general fees are used for other things, again many of which are currently unavailable to the current student. BGSU could have just raised tuition, but that would have been publicized greatly and not been used to offset athletics salaries. The main thing general fees are used for is to fund BGSU athletics and the main thing that BGSU athletics loses millions of dollars on, is it's football program. This seems like a pretty good place for it. I'll let ya know when I get the figures on the hotel bills to bring student athletes back to Wood County in a pandemic, while the campus was shut down, only to play no athletics until November. Meanwhile Bowling Green City Schools haven't had a in person class since last March citing Covid cases within Bowling Green. A public university for the public good.

[Schadenfreude]

The main thing general fees are used for is to fund BGSU athletics and the main thing that BGSU athletics loses millions of dollars on, is it's football program.

I am reasonably certain every single sport we field does not generate enough revenue from media rights and ticket sales to pay for itself, and that this is extremely common across Division I.

If you are proposing that Bowling Green drop football, why not just come out and say it?

Again (moderators?), I would suggest this is the wrong forum for this thread.

[guest44]

Of course none of them make money. The only people who make money are the coaches and administrators? All of the actions above are done to protect that with literally no regard for the public good. Can you ask the moderator why BGSU raised general fees to students by 4.1% in the midst of a global pandemic? Can you ask the moderator why Bob Moosbrugger is suddenly in charge of Recreation & Wellness? Can you ask the moderator why BGSU brought its football team and a bunch of other sports who never played, back to Bowing Green in the middle of a pandemic, while all indications were football wouldn’t be played. Why didn’t they house them on campus? To cut out liability? Can you ask the moderator how many BGSU athletes and coaches have tested positive for Covid-19? Specifically the ones BGSU paid housing for while the campus was shut down for safety reasons? That information is from a public university for the public good

[pdt1081]

Of course none of them make money. The only people who make money are the coaches and administrators? All of the actions above are done to protect that with literally no regard for the public good. Can you ask the moderator why BGSU raised general fees to students by 4.1% in the midst of a global pandemic? Can you ask the moderator why Bob Moosbrugger is suddenly in charge of Recreation & Wellness? Can you ask the moderator why BGSU brought its football team and a bunch of other sports who never played, back to Bowing Green in the middle of a pandemic, while all indications were football wouldn’t be played. Why didn’t they house them on campus? To cut out liability? Can you ask the moderator how many BGSU athletes and coaches have tested positive for Covid-19? Specifically the ones BGSU paid housing for while the campus was shut down for safety reasons? That information is from a public university for the public good

Would you like some Gouda? Maybe some Muenster? Perhaps good ole Cheddar is more your style? That's an awful lot of whine without having any cheese.

Nothing in the past year has been about "the public good," so you can drop that.

If all of this is so concerning to you, why are still supporting the school? If you're worried about the cost of "higher education," you're in the wrong place. Call your congressman and bitch to them about it. Or, better yet, start with your high school guidance counselor and do whatever you need to to make sure kids are educated on the fact that college isn't the only way forward. Whining and complaining on a football forum isn't going to change anything. Only thing it does is gives you slightly more of an audience.

[guest44]

Thanks Don Jr. I’ll zoom a high school guidance counselor as soon as possible in order to take that advice.