guest44 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 7:07 amNobody celebrated the Jinks recruiting classes quite like this board and Jason Knavel. The same people said the same thing. Not because they thought Jinks would actually turn it around. Before it was blame Babers and his lack of recruiting for why BGSU was horrible. Scotty Miller and James Morgan then got drafted. Now, it’s all the bad kids (the same group this board was drooling over a few February’s back) as the reason BGSU is horrible. Nope, it’s the incompetent coach who is trying to recreate Michigan of the 90s in a world of college free agency. The same coach who has been let go or would have been let go at 4 straight jobs. On a positive note a full 12 game schedule should provide some epic meltdowns post game.
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Wow. Scary stuff. Glad he's getting through it.
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Yes the 2017 recruiting class was talented and yes we were all excited because all we had to go on was highlight reels and stars. That was a talented class and there is a legit chance the 2017 BG class will be the first in BG history, maybe MAC history, to produce three NFL draft picks - Morris, Clair, and Doege. Give credit where credit is due. The previous staff could identify talent and get them to BG.
But where the previous staff was incredibly deficient was in identifying character. That 2017 class also had a woman beater, a kid who picked a fight during spring break, and various other dropouts. Remember who on this board was sounding the alarm about attrition of Jinks recruits? Remember who on this board pointed out that one quarter of that incredibly talented class was gone just one year in?
All that leads to where we are now. The previous staff could identify talent, but they did not develop adequately and they brought a whole bunch of players who were not capable of sticking with four years of college football.
I keep saying this during this particular offseason. Give it some time. The young classes here are impressive. Let's see if they stick and develop.
And one other thought. I hate using this metric because it is so pathetic. But here goes. In the 2018 offseason, BG led the nation in offseason arrests. Mostly if not entirely by Jinks recruits. Can anyone remember the last time an active football player was arrested? In general I hate using a metric like this because I don't like praising someone for doing things as expected, such as not recruiting future felons. It is however a rather jolting comparison and it speaks to the two coaching staffs and perhaps bodes well for the future.
But where the previous staff was incredibly deficient was in identifying character. That 2017 class also had a woman beater, a kid who picked a fight during spring break, and various other dropouts. Remember who on this board was sounding the alarm about attrition of Jinks recruits? Remember who on this board pointed out that one quarter of that incredibly talented class was gone just one year in?
All that leads to where we are now. The previous staff could identify talent, but they did not develop adequately and they brought a whole bunch of players who were not capable of sticking with four years of college football.
I keep saying this during this particular offseason. Give it some time. The young classes here are impressive. Let's see if they stick and develop.
And one other thought. I hate using this metric because it is so pathetic. But here goes. In the 2018 offseason, BG led the nation in offseason arrests. Mostly if not entirely by Jinks recruits. Can anyone remember the last time an active football player was arrested? In general I hate using a metric like this because I don't like praising someone for doing things as expected, such as not recruiting future felons. It is however a rather jolting comparison and it speaks to the two coaching staffs and perhaps bodes well for the future.
MarkL has spoken.
You may all now return to your daily lives.
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I don’t have the metric for arrests, but I would think the metric would show it’s harder to get arrested during pandemic shutdowns & curfews.
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Bars open, parties, business as usual-Covid relative. Plenty of opportunity to pistol whip someone, if so inclined.
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Well...there you are then...
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Apparently we can’t even acknowledge the Staff for at the very least; ridding the program of thugs, low life’s, academic incompetence and multiple drug failures. It can’t be their work, got to be the quarantine....
It’s not my point of view, it’s a fact.
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I am not sure why bringing up a player from ‘19 that didn’t even play much even with the thin RB depth chart?
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Sure if the Staff applied that thinking to every player just not the ones they didn’t like or recruitroguewarrior wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:57 pm Apparently we can’t even acknowledge the Staff for at the very least; ridding the program of thugs, low life’s, academic incompetence and multiple drug failures. It can’t be their work, got to be the quarantine....
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What does it matter how much he played? I thought we were trying to give the football program credit for cleaning up the mess. Hopefully, it is the last headline for a decade. Mike Jinks was a disgrace of a hire. That doesn't make this one right. I'm just pointing out the last date the BGSU Football program was attached to off the field issues publicly.
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Keyword- former. He was not a part of the team at time of the incident. This happened in June 2020. Lamar was not on the team by end of 2019. Dropout, booted, I cannot say. But he was not an active football player when he did what he did.
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Lamar also wasn't someone Loeffler brought to BG. He was inherited by Loeffler and off the team and out of the program in short order.
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I don't think anyone can legitimately dispute the type of guys Loeffler has brought in.
Many of them are high character guys from high school programs with great traditions. Many of them spent their high school careers serving as captains, earning offers from Ivy schools/service academies, and graduating with stellar GPAs.
The quality of men we have in the program has changed in a positive way with this current staff, no doubt about it.
Many of them are high character guys from high school programs with great traditions. Many of them spent their high school careers serving as captains, earning offers from Ivy schools/service academies, and graduating with stellar GPAs.
The quality of men we have in the program has changed in a positive way with this current staff, no doubt about it.
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