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Diggs coming back blows up that depth chart - AGAIN.

I am assuming he will start at the 3. I really don't know about Fields. When he tried to be aggressive, it seemed to go well. But he did that so infrequently that I don't know if there is a point in putting him on the floor. Maybe it was Juice taking all the oxygen out of the offense? I'd be inclined to start Mills and Gordon in the backcourt. And maybe play something of a PG-less team ball?

Mills - Matheney - Fields

Gordon - Fulcher

Diggs - Curtis

Plowden - Young

Turner (Mattis if he can) - Etim - Swingle

Unless Single gets much better about keeping his arms out of fouls way, better on the boards, and gets significantly quicker laterally, I don't want him on the court.

At this point, I value Matheney's desire to make something happen more than Field's desire to avoid mistakes. If Young can turn in to 80-90% of what Freeman was this past year as a sophomore, I'd start him at C in a heart beat.
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They will be targeting big men in the portal. Hopefully multiple big men. Thank you Steve Wright. He is a recruiter who has changed the approach.
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Love getting Diggs back. Love even more that you can add a scorer like that and still go out and target some athletic bigs because he doesn't count against your scholarship limit.

At some point it will be tough to add people because we'll have so many guys that we cannot offer playing time to them all, but we still haven't replaced Swingle yet in my view. Go get me anybody that is athletic and over 6'9 and he's your starting center. We can go after those types and offer them 20+ mpg on a team that should be pretty good.
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Very exciting week and we'll be a very deep team this year on the 1-3 spots! I'm glad we're taking advantage of the transfers and extra scholarships this year. Without a doubt we still need a big and hopefully since basketball and football haven't used their scholarship allotment the past couple of years there's room for another scholarship player. I think matiss can play some minutes at the 5 but with his injuries I'd rather have him as the bench 5
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Diemilkweed wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:17 pm Diggs coming back blows up that depth chart - AGAIN.

I am assuming he will start at the 3. I really don't know about Fields. When he tried to be aggressive, it seemed to go well. But he did that so infrequently that I don't know if there is a point in putting him on the floor. Maybe it was Juice taking all the oxygen out of the offense? I'd be inclined to start Mills and Gordon in the backcourt. And maybe play something of a PG-less team ball?

Mills - Matheney - Fields

Gordon - Fulcher

Diggs - Curtis

Plowden - Young

Turner (Mattis if he can) - Etim - Swingle

Unless Single gets much better about keeping his arms out of fouls way, better on the boards, and gets significantly quicker laterally, I don't want him on the court.

At this point, I value Matheney's desire to make something happen more than Field's desire to avoid mistakes. If Young can turn in to 80-90% of what Freeman was this past year as a sophomore, I'd start him at C in a heart beat.
It would be hard for me to believe Fields-Diggs and Plowden don't all start. Fields is our best defender.
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Globetrotter wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:27 am
Diemilkweed wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:17 pm Diggs coming back blows up that depth chart - AGAIN.

I am assuming he will start at the 3. I really don't know about Fields. When he tried to be aggressive, it seemed to go well. But he did that so infrequently that I don't know if there is a point in putting him on the floor. Maybe it was Juice taking all the oxygen out of the offense? I'd be inclined to start Mills and Gordon in the backcourt. And maybe play something of a PG-less team ball?

Mills - Matheney - Fields

Gordon - Fulcher

Diggs - Curtis

Plowden - Young

Turner (Mattis if he can) - Etim - Swingle

Unless Single gets much better about keeping his arms out of fouls way, better on the boards, and gets significantly quicker laterally, I don't want him on the court.

At this point, I value Matheney's desire to make something happen more than Field's desire to avoid mistakes. If Young can turn in to 80-90% of what Freeman was this past year as a sophomore, I'd start him at C in a heart beat.
It would be hard for me to believe Fields-Diggs and Plowden don't all start. Fields is our best defender.

With the personnel we have coming in, the only sure starter is Plowden.

I really, REALLY don't see Fields starting or even seeing more than 10mpg.
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BleedOrange wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:16 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 11:27 am
Diemilkweed wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:17 pm Diggs coming back blows up that depth chart - AGAIN.

I am assuming he will start at the 3. I really don't know about Fields. When he tried to be aggressive, it seemed to go well. But he did that so infrequently that I don't know if there is a point in putting him on the floor. Maybe it was Juice taking all the oxygen out of the offense? I'd be inclined to start Mills and Gordon in the backcourt. And maybe play something of a PG-less team ball?

Mills - Matheney - Fields

Gordon - Fulcher

Diggs - Curtis

Plowden - Young

Turner (Mattis if he can) - Etim - Swingle

Unless Single gets much better about keeping his arms out of fouls way, better on the boards, and gets significantly quicker laterally, I don't want him on the court.

At this point, I value Matheney's desire to make something happen more than Field's desire to avoid mistakes. If Young can turn in to 80-90% of what Freeman was this past year as a sophomore, I'd start him at C in a heart beat.
It would be hard for me to believe Fields-Diggs and Plowden don't all start. Fields is our best defender.

With the personnel we have coming in, the only sure starter is Plowden.

I really, REALLY don't see Fields starting or even seeing more than 10mpg.
He is the best defender, the coaches love him and he has never played less than 17 minutes a game.
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fanatic13 wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:36 am Very exciting week and we'll be a very deep team this year on the 1-3 spots!
For the way we play it is actually the 1-4 spots with Diggs-Plowden-Turner and Young all 4's in the system (And Matiss and Etim)
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Globetrotter wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:36 pm
fanatic13 wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:36 am Very exciting week and we'll be a very deep team this year on the 1-3 spots!
For the way we play it is actually the 1-4 spots with Diggs-Plowden-Turner and Young all 4's in the system (And Matiss and Etim)
We're bringing in 3 guys at his position who are all better than he is. Plus, there's the growth of Fulcher and the presence of Diggs. Fields will be a backup PG and a defensive specialist when he sees the court.
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BleedOrange wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:55 pm
Globetrotter wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 2:36 pm
fanatic13 wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 9:36 am Very exciting week and we'll be a very deep team this year on the 1-3 spots!
For the way we play it is actually the 1-4 spots with Diggs-Plowden-Turner and Young all 4's in the system (And Matiss and Etim)
We're bringing in 3 guys at his position who are all better than he is. Plus, there's the growth of Fulcher and the presence of Diggs. Fields will be a backup PG and a defensive specialist when he sees the court.
Then who starts at PG? We didn't bring in anyone who has done that and Fields was starting there at the end of the year.
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I think it's either this

1 Fields 6-2 Sr/Jr 6.9p 3.8r 2.2a 30(3%) 28.3m Metheny 5-11 So/Fr 10.2p 3r 1.9a 32.2(3%) 28.7m
2 Gordon 6-3 SR XFER 15.6p 3.2r 31.6(3%) 25m Mills 6-3 SO XFER 13.9p 3.1r 1.9a 40.2(3%) 32.2m Curtis 6-4 SO XFER 10.1p 2.4r 38(3%) 22.1m
3 Diggs 6-6 Sr (G) 11.5p 4.3r 37.8(3%) 23.3m Fulcher 6-2 So/Fr 6p 3r 1.9a 32.2(3%) 18.4m
4 Plowden 6-6 SR 13.4p 7.8rpg 35.6(3%) 30m Young 6-6 So/Fr 2.3p 2.7r 12.5(3%) 10.1m Kulackovskis 6-9 Sr(r)/Jr
5 Turner 6-7 Jr/So 2.1p 1.9r 27.3(3%) 8.2m Swingle 6-11 Jr(t)/So 4p 2.4r 11.8m Etim 6-8 Fr

Or this (I can't imagine it actually being this but I bet we play this quite often)

1 Fields 6-2 Sr/Jr 6.9p 3.8r 2.2a 30(3%) 28.3m Metheny 5-11 So/Fr 10.2p 3r 1.9a 32.2(3%) 28.7m
2 Gordon 6-3 SR XFER 15.6p 3.2r 31.6(3%) 25m Curtis 6-4 SO XFER 10.1p 2.4r 38(3%) 22.1m
3 Mills 6-3 SO XFER 13.9p 3.1r 1.9a 40.2(3%) 32.2m Fulcher 6-2 So/Fr 6p 3r 1.9a 32.2(3%) 18.4m
4 Diggs 6-6 Sr (G) 11.5p 4.3r 37.8(3%) 23.3m Young 6-6 So/Fr 2.3p 2.7r 12.5(3%) 10.1m Kulackovskis 6-9 Sr(r)/Jr
5 Plowden 6-6 SR 13.4p 7.8rpg 35.6(3%) 30m Turner 6-7 Jr/So 2.1p 1.9r 27.3(3%) 8.2m Swingle 6-11 Jr(t)/So 4p 2.4r 11.8m Etim 6-8 Fr
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Yeah - I hope we either light a fire under Field's ass on offense - because last year he showed us that he CAN do it. He just doesn'yt.

Either that or play him a lot less as a defender off the bench.
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That 2nd one is a great way to wear down Plowden and make him less effective as the season wears on.

A few minutes a game as a change of pace / attacking lineup, OK. But doing it consistently will wear down Plowden, Diggs and to a lesser extent the guards.

We NEED someone with the actual size to absorb the physicality of larger players (like, Swingle but mobile would be freaking awesome).
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Fields wasn't the same player after Huger went at him for jawing Buffalo off the court when BG won at Buffalo. Let's just say he is better suited to play when fans are in the stands, as he talks alot and seems to play better when he is doing so.
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Gordon can run the point, watch some of his videos.
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