2021-2022 Recruiting

[Diemilkweed]

Gordon can run the point, watch some of his videos.

17 assists to 17 turnovers last year.

Not who I want running the point.

[Globetrotter]

That 2nd one is a great way to wear down Plowden and make him less effective as the season wears on.

A few minutes a game as a change of pace / attacking lineup, OK. But doing it consistently will wear down Plowden, Diggs and to a lesser extent the guards.

We NEED someone with the actual size to absorb the physicality of larger players (like, Swingle but mobile would be freaking awesome).

I agree, but I think we ran that more than we think
In the last four game Washington and Swingle combined for
Eastern Michigan-17 minutes
Akron-13 minutes
Miami-6 minutes
Akron-21 minutes

It's not ideal I agree.

[footballguy51]

My starting five would be Metheny, Fields, Diggs, Plowden, and ... Etim? Metheny showed some real ability. With a year under his belt, I’m thinking he will have a little more ball control.

[mbenecke]

My starting five would be Metheny, Fields, Diggs, Plowden, and ... Etim? Metheny showed some real ability. With a year under his belt, I’m thinking he will have a little more ball control.

This is my early guess, with Young at the 5 in place of Etim.

I just think Huger will go with what's familiar, at least to start the year. If Gordon, Mills, or Curtis are able to steal a spot, I wouldn't be surprised, either.

[OSUFALCON]

If Gordon, Mills or Curtis are able to steal a spot? All three would have started last year if we had them. Curtis might not be eligible because of his transfer. He needs a wavier to be eligible this season. I assume he will receive it.

[Globetrotter]

My starting five would be Metheny, Fields, Diggs, Plowden, and ... Etim? Metheny showed some real ability. With a year under his belt, I’m thinking he will have a little more ball control.

This makes a lot of sense but I would be surprised if these guys who led their teams in scoring were excited to come here and not start. Gordon only has one year left specifically.

[Globetrotter]

If Gordon, Mills or Curtis are able to steal a spot? All three would have started last year if we had them. Curtis might not be eligible because of his transfer. He needs a wavier to be eligible this season. I assume he will receive it.

Who would they have started over?

[Diemilkweed]

My starting five would be Metheny, Fields, Diggs, Plowden, and ... Etim? Metheny showed some real ability. With a year under his belt, I’m thinking he will have a little more ball control.

Seriously. I had 3 issues with him, all of which gfot addressed ot some degree during the year.

1) on ball defense: the start of eth year, upper classman guards could twist him and turn him and blow by with ease. He was already significantl;y better by hte late season.

2) ball control. he tries to do things at 110 mph that he should be doing at 90 mph, and it causes him to lose control. He usually gets it back, but the flow of the offense suffers. Eh needs ot learn to change speeds some, and tighten up his handle.

3) finishing with other players near him. He was flat out BAD at this.

[BleedOrange]

If Gordon, Mills or Curtis are able to steal a spot? All three would have started last year if we had them. Curtis might not be eligible because of his transfer. He needs a wavier to be eligible this season. I assume he will receive it.

Who would they have started over?

Fields and Metheny, no question. The third would have been first off the bench.

[fredthefalcon]

Curtis definitely would be one of our top 3 players in the coming season if he doesn't have to sit out. That is a big, big IF. Mills could start in a 3 Guard lineup with Fields and Metheny or be early off the bench. Gordon is a scorer but likely middle of the road from 3 point land and does not rebound or facilitate well. Might get a start if Diggs is the 6th man again but would be there for 2 point scoring more than anything else. He must be a slasher based on his stats more than a pure shooter.

[Falconwriter]

Curtis definitely would be one of our top 3 players in the coming season if he doesn't have to sit out. That is a big, big IF. Mills could start in a 3 Guard lineup with Fields and Metheny or be early off the bench. Gordon is a scorer but likely middle of the road from 3 point land and does not rebound or facilitate well. Might get a start if Diggs is the 6th man again but would be there for 2 point scoring more than anything else. He must be a slasher based on his stats more than a pure shooter.

Assuming the NCAA D-1 Board of Directors approves the proposal to allow one transfer without sitting out (they meet to vote 4-28) there's no reason he should have to sit out this year.

[Globetrotter]

Curtis definitely would be one of our top 3 players in the coming season if he doesn't have to sit out. That is a big, big IF. Mills could start in a 3 Guard lineup with Fields and Metheny or be early off the bench. Gordon is a scorer but likely middle of the road from 3 point land and does not rebound or facilitate well. Might get a start if Diggs is the 6th man again but would be there for 2 point scoring more than anything else. He must be a slasher based on his stats more than a pure shooter.

Curtis only averaged 10 pts a game. Gordon and Mills averaged much more.

[Diemilkweed]

Curtis definitely would be one of our top 3 players in the coming season if he doesn't have to sit out. That is a big, big IF. Mills could start in a 3 Guard lineup with Fields and Metheny or be early off the bench. Gordon is a scorer but likely middle of the road from 3 point land and does not rebound or facilitate well. Might get a start if Diggs is the 6th man again but would be there for 2 point scoring more than anything else. He must be a slasher based on his stats more than a pure shooter.

Curtis only averaged 10 pts a game. Gordon and Mills averaged much more.

It's not just about raw averages. I really don't know these guys beyond the stats posted in this thread. But there's team composition and minutes played. Pace of the team. etc... to consider. Like, if Curtis played for US last season, he likely would have been the 4th option behind Juice, Plowden and Diggs. That doesn't make him a bad player, or worse than the other two incoming guards.

[Globetrotter]

Curtis definitely would be one of our top 3 players in the coming season if he doesn't have to sit out. That is a big, big IF. Mills could start in a 3 Guard lineup with Fields and Metheny or be early off the bench. Gordon is a scorer but likely middle of the road from 3 point land and does not rebound or facilitate well. Might get a start if Diggs is the 6th man again but would be there for 2 point scoring more than anything else. He must be a slasher based on his stats more than a pure shooter.

Curtis only averaged 10 pts a game. Gordon and Mills averaged much more.

It's not just about raw averages. I really don't know these guys beyond the stats posted in this thread. But there's team composition and minutes played. Pace of the team. etc... to consider. Like, if Curtis played for US last season, he likely would have been the 4th option behind Juice, Plowden and Diggs. That doesn't make him a bad player, or worse than the other two incoming guards.

It doesn't make him better. Mills is an explosive athlete. Gordon is a 5th year senior who averaged 12 then 15. Mills averaged 9 then 13.

Curtis might be fine but if you watch the videos I am much higher on the other 2. Good thing is Mills and Curtis are both Sophomores.

[Diemilkweed]

Jeeze - that makes Mills, Curtis, Matheney and Fulcher ALL as the future of our backcourt.

I can live with that.